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Option B Let's show them how it feels when someone kicks in their door!
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Jun 18, 2017 23:45
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I want to vote B, but I'm voting D because we need to finish the fight!
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Jun 18, 2017 23:49
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These are all too good and you are a fiend and a villain for forcing us to choose between them. A. I'm quite invested in how the DS plotline has developed so far ever since the Luthien mission oh so long ago.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:51
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I can't not vote B.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:51
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Well, if nothing else, I was right about this vote being an overwhelming abundance of riches. Jesus, there's only one of those options that doesn't immediately jump out at me as "OH, let's do that one!" I'm going to have to think about this for awhile.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:59
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B Limitations are meant to be broken.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:01
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It is a foregone conclusion that this thread will vote for B, which is unfortunate, because I believe that one will be the least fun to play however interesting the ramifications may be. My vote is for A. Luthien. We fought there and took it once- it is our duty to take it once more.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:07
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I wonder if we'll ever revisit Carlos Marik sometime this year. I'm feeling pretty nostalgic about my turn playing. Also kinda regretful because man I was a dick.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:10
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A
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Jun 19, 2017 00:11
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Here's my thoughts on A, B, and D. I'd fully welcome counterpoints or more info to help me decide. A) The Drac Suns going on the offensive to take back the Drac capital world? Together? Against the Clans? That sounds like a hell of a fight. Upsides: The narrative for this has the potential to be even more interesting than the NRWR, there's a bunch of ways this Campaign could go, and you get to punch Clanners in the face. Downsides: I kinda want to see the Drac Suns blow up comically, and having Goonlance play them doesn't really further that goal. B) The NRWR sends their A-Team in on a one-way deep strike raid to gently caress up the Clan homeworlds! Upsides: It's the NRWR, a daring raid with lots of potential for oddity, and we'd be smacking the Clans right in their stupid monkey faces where they couldn't deny it. Also, ostensibly a revenge raid for the loss of dear Uncle Stevie. Downside: I can't picture in my head how this would work from a mission perspective, and I'm not sure necessarily if Uncle Stevie would back this or D. D) Cyborgs (and possibly Demon Hawks) avenge Uncle Stevie. Upsides: AVENGE UNCLE STEVIE! Cyborgs, possibly Demon Hawks, closure for the Andurien campaign. We get one last chance to punish the Clans that came to Andurien without calling for backup for being stupid. Probably the least work for PTN of the 3? Downsides: Almost certainly less strategically important than option B as far as "beat up Clanners" goes. Uncle Stevie may have preferred us backing B with that in mind. Probably less varied missions than options A or B on the backend. PTN, can we get an idea of what was in that message broadcast to the NRWR before the vote? I feel like it'd go a long way (for me) towards deciding whether B or D was what Amaris VI was shooting for in the wake of his death. [EDIT]And I think this is actually a really good vote. There is no "foregone conclusion" option like a couple of the previous ones. Even the NRWR vote is split between two options, and the Luthien task force is super interesting in its own right.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:13
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Oh my god all of these sound so good. But only one will give me the chance to see how sanguine our pilots are about their 'Mech selections - as well as revisit the location of one of the thread's most iconic battles. Voting A. (who wants to bet that the Clanners have knocked down a bunch of buildings so that a Clanner's advance can never again be blocked by a single 'Mech standing there being a jerk?) E: Viva Miriya posted:I wonder if we'll ever revisit Carlos Marik sometime this year. I'm feeling pretty nostalgic about my turn playing. Also kinda regretful because man I was a dick. You weren't so much of a dick that I could remember what the hell you're talking about, so it must not have been too bad, man.  And yeah, I want to see Carlos again. Carlos was awesome. DivineCoffeeBinge fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 00:14
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God I want B so much, but I can't pass up D for Manei Domini style cyberzombie bullshit.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:16
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If B wins I hope the players are the clans.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:17
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A Goonlance took Luthien once, we'll take it again!
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Jun 19, 2017 00:22
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Voting B. Time to teach those Clanners eugenics by the sword.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:24
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You know what? A
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Jun 19, 2017 00:39
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Oh my god all of these sound so good. I literally called someone a retard over shooting the gatehouse. That was p rude though brief. e: also yeah Carlos Crusaders need to ride again.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:44
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Man, B, C and D are all so tempting. (Let the spheroid sword shatter against the Hell's Horses education and consideration of the peons.) B, I want to see the NRWR with the gloves off conquering Strana Mechty and crashing the orbiting burial ship somewhere insulting.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:45
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Voting B.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:46
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I vote B, because I feel like it's the likeliest chance of the Clans managing to win a fight here and I like the Clans. 
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Jun 19, 2017 00:47
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drat I'm so torn between B and D.... hmm B While the demon hawks might be fun, let's see how this group deals with having no effective resupply
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Jun 19, 2017 00:49
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2nd Battle of Luthien? Pfft, who cares. 2 different ways that Uncle Steve is sticking it to the Clans? Yeah, that's actually pretty interesting. But hot hot Clan on Clan action? This I gotta see.  Voting C.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:52
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Zaodai posted:Here's my thoughts on A, B, and D. I'd fully welcome counterpoints or more info to help me decide. I'm thinking similarly on this and would love to see all three scenarios play out here. I'm going to hold off on actually voting for now because I genuinely can't decide which I want. Excited by the possibilities no matter what we end up with.
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Jun 19, 2017 00:52
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A is my top choice, though they are all tempting
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Jun 19, 2017 00:58
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A. We've seen a metric ton of NRWR stuff, and having a front where they aren't involved at all would be nice for a while. And the internal tensions with the DS are really cool and might make for a really interesting battle. It also ties into the political vote nicely, and shenanigans are guaranteed no matter whether the operation is successful or not. Also B is pretty hosed up when you consider that even in the most charitable reading, "I just want the Homeworld Clan society reduced to an agrarian one" means isolating the entire society hundreds of LY away from the next non-Clan humans and dooming them to probably centuries of not even having the ability to communicate the Kerensky Cluster worlds, depending on how thorough the NRWR decide to be. I mean, yeah the clans are jerks, and yeah every faction in BTech has its share of war crimes, but seriously, that's really hosed up. And that's assuming that Stevie the Younger wasn't just being quippy and actually just means "bombard them back to the stone age and kill everyone" in which case it's even more problematic. Either way you slice it, it pretty much puts the NRWR in "...are we the baddies?" mode.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:01
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I had to think carefully between A, B, and D. I'm throwing my vote in for B.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:04
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We already know he doesn't mean bombard them back to the stone age because he explicitly said that if he wanted to do that he'd just bombard their worlds with jump torpedoes. It's not like hitting a planet sized target is hard when they've been observing the homeworlds for years, or that the Clans could move the planets out of the way even if the NRWR fires 200 near misses before getting hits. I'm not saying it's not war crime-y, I'm just saying, we do actually know he's not sending them to just do orbital bombardment.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:04
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I think the most interesting choice here, narratively, is how the FedSuns work out in an actual scenario, so it's A for me.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:08
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Zaodai posted:We already know he doesn't mean bombard them back to the stone age because he explicitly said that if he wanted to do that he'd just bombard their worlds with jump torpedoes. It's not like hitting a planet sized target is hard when they've been observing the homeworlds for years, or that the Clans could move the planets out of the way even if the NRWR fires 200 near misses before getting hits. I mean, his concerns are primarily about ecological damage and he's also sending the units mostly likely to go all genocide-y if they get out of control so it's not 100% clear cut as to whether he's actually perfectly okay with worse poo poo happening than his explicit orders state. And again even in the most charitable reading it's still probably one of the most hosed up things a faction has done in this timeline and I don't think PTN is really intending it to come off as A Good And Totally Cool Plan.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:09
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I don't think any of the plans anyone has enacted in this timeline are supposed to come off as Good and Totally Cool on the moral scale. Let's All Play Battletech: Everybody is a monstrous dickbag. Does anybody remember what that broadcast Amaris left the Clans said when they raided that base in the FWL with their ghost mechs? Wasn't it basically a "kill me now or forever stay your hand" type deal? I get the feeling he gave them the chance to walk away, even if he never really expected them to take it. I do have to say, though. You're selling me on B.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:14
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Jun 19, 2017 01:16
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Zaodai posted:I don't think any of the plans anyone has enacted in this timeline are supposed to come off as Good and Totally Cool on the moral scale. Let's All Play Battletech: Everybody is a monstrous dickbag. I mean it is the most Cappellan-like option so that's not really going to surprise much of anyone
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Jun 19, 2017 01:17
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Fraction Jackson posted:I mean it is the most Cappellan-like option so that's not really going to surprise much of anyone I'd contend that option D is probably more Cappellan. Take all our wondrous super toys and have a dick-waving contest that will destroy them all for nominal gain.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:21
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Voting A
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Jun 19, 2017 01:59
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A has the most potential for shenanigans. Seeing two former rivals trying to work together in one of the most important battles to date is something I can't pass up.
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Jun 19, 2017 02:08
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B misjuuuuump fun times?
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Jun 19, 2017 02:13
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A, if only for the potential reuse of the previous Luthien map.
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Jun 19, 2017 02:32
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Throw out my vote for A
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Jun 19, 2017 02:47
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Holy poo poo I cannot choose between these to save my life.
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Jun 19, 2017 02:50
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Gwaihir posted:Holy poo poo I cannot choose between these to save my life. A wise man once told me, "Roll a die for it, then pick the one you were secretly hoping would turn up."
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