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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Mu Zeta posted:

Remember when everyone was praising the movie about Wolverine in Japan? What a piece of poo poo movie that was.

That movie was pretty good. I enjoyed it.

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Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
The Wolverine was not good. It some neat ideas, but wasted all of them by being​ terrible and boring.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Snak posted:

The Wolverine was not good. It some neat ideas, but wasted all of them by being​ terrible and boring.

Still leaps and bounds better than the two previous x-men related films. Origins and Last stand were dire.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Origin is much better than The Wolverine.

A few months back I marathoned all the xmen movies, including the 2 Wolverine movies. There's a lot of bad poo poo in that franchise.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Snak posted:

Origin is much better than The Wolverine.

This is the truth

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I binged all the X-Men movies recently and to be honest they're all kind of forgettable. Like there's shades of it and good ones and bad ones but not a lot really stuck with me and jumps to mind months later. Deadpool is the only one that really stands out in my memory and that seems rather tangentially connected. I haven't seen Logan, though.

By contrast I'm currently rewatching the 90s Batman movies and even though they're all pretty dated and campy and bad (at least the Schumacher ones) they're pretty memorable. I havent seen any of them in at least a decade, but all the big scenes and characters and lines all struck a memorable chord for me.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Snak posted:

Origin is much better than The Wolverine.

this is untrue

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Snak posted:

Origin is much better than The Wolverine.


Fake news.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Mu Zeta posted:

Remember when everyone was praising the movie about Wolverine in Japan? What a piece of poo poo movie that was.

Did you get it mixed up with the (rightfully praised) Logan or something? Because literally the only thing resembling praise I can remember hearing about The Wolverine was that it was better than X-Men Origins: Wolverine and that Hugh Jackman's body was insane in it.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

No I remember a lot of critics and fans loved it. Because Japanese people today totally walk around in kimonos and every other male is a yakuza member. It's why Fox gave James Mangold the go ahead to make Logan. My guess is people saw the awesome train fight and forgave everything else in the movie.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
snik snik

OITNB's latest season is its best since the second at least. Some awkward stuff in the early episodes but it gets real good towards the end of the first half.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Escobarbarian posted:

snik snik

OITNB's latest season is its best since the second at least. Some awkward stuff in the early episodes but it gets real good towards the end of the first half.

I just started it and I hope you're right. Goddamn that last season was atrocious.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Snak posted:

Origin is much better than The Wolverine.

TVIV's assault on good taste in movies continues.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


There's very little to like in The Wolverine unless you just like seeing Hugh Jackman with stupid hair on screen.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


The Wolverine felt like a made for TV movie.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Isn't Origin the one with the Deadpool that doesn't talk? Also the CGI looked like Playstation 2 graphics.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Lurdiak posted:

There's very little to like in The Wolverine unless you just like seeing Hugh Jackman with stupid hair on screen.

Josh Lyman posted:

The Wolverine felt like a made for TV movie.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

That scene was funny and cool imo, but it's the only good thing about it

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I'm interrupting movie chat to bring the news that Stephen Furst has died.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Just finished this srason of Orange is the new Black. Really liked it. One of the best seasons. But I also thought season 4 was good.

I would really like both Piper and Alex to be written off the show.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



It felt like Piper was the 'relatable' character for people to empathize with as we start the show with her journey into incarceration. Her role on the show feels kinda pointless now, at least it's not as front and center as it used to.

And yeah, I have one episode left but this season was great.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I read a couple chapters of the book and author/piper was definitely the lead relatable person. It's terrible.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm not sure Piper was ever truly relatable. Like, from the start she's a spoiled upper class brat who is getting kind of screwed by the system but refuses to take any responsibility for that fact that she actually got herself into the mess and committed a crime. Then as it goes on pretty much all her loved ones pretty quickly lose sympathy with her poo poo.

Like, I'm sure it was supposed to be more about how prison separated her from her loved ones and none of them could truly understand that experience. And I was always sympathetic to that. But I feel like when her fiance dumps her and gets with her best friend/business partner and they both choose to cut the poison out of their lives you're left nodding along.

Piper's our access into the world but once we're in we find people with way bigger problems, who got screwed over way more, and who are just more sympathetic in every way than Piper. Even before she becomes truly rephrensible.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I don't mind Piper because the show largely seems self-aware about her relative privilege and idiocy and uses her a lot in a comedic role these days.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

There was a point there in S2 or 3 where the show was way too focused on her destructive and selfish romantic poo poo while all around her were more sympathetic characters going through way worse poo poo.

But yeah, they figured it out at some point and first pushed her as a full blown villain and then humbled her and moved her to the side back into the character she started as who everyone just kind of tolerates because she's harmless. With those more interesting and sympathetic characters moving to the forefront.

Tonight I'll either start the new season of OITB or start Handmaid's Tale. Assuming I'm in the right mindset for either.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

STAC Goat posted:

I binged all the X-Men movies recently and to be honest they're all kind of forgettable. Like there's shades of it and good ones and bad ones but not a lot really stuck with me and jumps to mind months later. Deadpool is the only one that really stands out in my memory and that seems rather tangentially connected. I haven't seen Logan, though.

By contrast I'm currently rewatching the 90s Batman movies and even though they're all pretty dated and campy and bad (at least the Schumacher ones) they're pretty memorable. I havent seen any of them in at least a decade, but all the big scenes and characters and lines all struck a memorable chord for me.

First Class is the only X-Men movie I have wanted to watch more than once. I really liked it.

Days of Future Past was okay, I guess.

edit: and in the late 80s I was embarrasingly fond of the X-Men and ElfQuest. Holy poo poo, when's ElfQuest gonna get rediscovered by Tumblr? :allears:

precision fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jun 19, 2017

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

The first half of First Class was so drat good. Then after they got the team together it just fell apart, including Michael Fassbender's accent.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

STAC Goat posted:

There was a point there in S2 or 3 where the show was way too focused on her destructive and selfish romantic poo poo while all around her were more sympathetic characters going through way worse poo poo.

But yeah, they figured it out at some point and first pushed her as a full blown villain and then humbled her and moved her to the side back into the character she started as who everyone just kind of tolerates because she's harmless. With those more interesting and sympathetic characters moving to the forefront.

Tonight I'll either start the new season of OITB or start Handmaid's Tale. Assuming I'm in the right mindset for either.

That was season 3, which I think is probably the worst season.

Where she decided that because she's bored, she should start an illegal prison business.

But even season 3 has a strong finish.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

precision posted:

First Class is the only X-Men movie I have wanted to watch more than once. I really liked it.

Days of Future Past was okay, I guess.


Yeah, those are probably in the "good" end of movies by my memory but at the same time I have a hard time really remembering much about them besides the generals of Jennifer Lawrence, Micheal Fassbender, and James McAvoy. There aren't like scenes or lines or themes or anything that really stand out or make me feel like rewatching.

Compared to like... Suicide Squad, which is a totally crap movie but has quite a few scenes or lines that I actually have a positive memory of and which sort of compels me to want to watch again.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Suicide Squad is better than any of the X-Men films, it's true. Or at least, let's say it's more interesting.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Mu Zeta posted:

No I remember a lot of critics and fans loved it. Because Japanese people today totally walk around in kimonos and every other male is a yakuza member. It's why Fox gave James Mangold the go ahead to make Logan. My guess is people saw the awesome train fight and forgave everything else in the movie.

I think they gave Mangold the go-ahead for Logan based on the opening sequence where he's living in the woods and befriending bears, and the bit where he says "Go gently caress yourself, pretty boy." The two most memorable things about The Wolverine: Hugh Jackman looking haggard and living in desolation, and the big cuss.

First Class was one of the better X-Men movies, they should not have killed off Shaw because Kevin Bacon was outstanding.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

JethroMcB posted:

First Class was one of the better X-Men movies, they should not have killed off Shaw because Kevin Bacon was outstanding.

"I'm going to count to three, and then I'm going to move the coin" is the coldest, most badass moment in any X-Men film.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

muscles like this! posted:

I'm interrupting movie chat to bring the news that Stephen Furst has died.
:smith:

Who's even left from Babylon 5?

Also, wtf?

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

precision posted:

Suicide Squad is better than any of the X-Men films, it's true. Or at least, let's say it's more interesting.

the only thing interesting about suicide squad is how such a bad film was allowed to be made

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

Wandle Cax posted:

the only thing interesting about suicide squad is how such a bad film was allowed to be made

It was fine.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

BSam posted:

It was fine.

It was awful on every level.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

what are we some kind of suicide squad

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll
It won an Oscar for its strong makeup and wig game.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Forever vindicating the sentiment that academy award nominations are a joke.

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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I've felt that the Oscars have been jokey bullshit ever since Sharon Stone didn't win Best Actress for Casino in 1996.

Then Shakespeare in Love beat out Saving Private Ryan three years later for Best Picture and I KNEW the Oscars were jokey bullshit.

Also, Eddie Redmayne over Michael Keaton? LO FUCKIN' L.

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