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K. Waste posted:Carrie John Travolta is in Carrie? I'm not going to look that up, but I will bet someone money over it in the near future, so if you're wrong I will blame you.
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Skwirl posted:John Travolta is in Carrie? I'm not going to look that up, but I will bet someone money over it in the near future, so if you're wrong I will blame you. He's the mean popular girl's douche boyfriend
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Jun 19, 2017 05:19
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He's in the last part of the main scene.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:28
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I wasn't listing good movies with John Travolta, I was listing good performances by John Travolta.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:36
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Get Shorty
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Skwirl posted:I wasn't listing good movies with John Travolta, I was listing good performances by John Travolta. Same difference. edit: Because for some fuckin' reason only the first thirty-five minutes of it are up on Watch TCM, YTotD is From Hell It Came (1957) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXgf1JDhfxI Trigger warning: The scientists in this movie are mad racist - like, 'absolving themselves of responsibility for loving H-bomb fallout and then joking that they should just nuke them all anyway' racist. K. Waste fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 05:55
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Raw Deal is a underrated Arnold pic
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CelticPredator posted:Get Shorty I was gonna say this. He's very effortless in that film, which is impressive.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:08
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Is Be Cool at all watchable?
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Jun 19, 2017 06:11
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Kinda. Like Dwayne Johnson is decent in it, and it was notable for his first "dramatic role". It's not all that dramatic, but he did a little bit more than his usual fair at that point. that's really it though. rest is kind of trash.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:15
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This conversation reminds me that I saw a trailer for the Get Shorty series that they're making for some reason and was surprised that it actually looks pretty good.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:22
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Yeah, I saw an add for it before a movie, and I thought "hey this looks good" and at the end the title came up and I was like "huh".
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Jun 19, 2017 06:31
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John Travolta was in Hairspray and Battlefield Earth.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:34
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Lurdiak posted:Is Be Cool at all watchable? Not really. If you happened on it while flipping through channels I could see watching it for a scene or two, but there's barely any life in it.
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The most terrible thing about Be Cool is Steven Tyler playing Steven Tyler. Sadly I can't find the scene on YouTube where John Travolta's character explains what the actual meaning is of a song STEVEN WROTE THE LYRICS TO.
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Jun 19, 2017 08:56
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People just like to hear Chili talk.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:So as far as Wonder Woman goes, I'm not wrong for finding buff, Dark Souls Boss David Thewlis to be absolutely hilarious, right He's the best thing about the movie, the casting is absolutely perfect. Like of course Ares, the God of War, is a tweedy British politician who professes to just want peace but is actually genocidal. What else would he be?
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Tenzarin posted:John Travolta was in Hairspray and Battlefield Earth. The Hairspray remake is so bizarre to me. The original is a loving tribute to freaks, rebels, and societal outcasts made by a wonderful creep eschewing his grimy aesthetic to make something subversive that the squares could watch. The remake is this strange sanitized thing about institutionalized, packaged weirdness made by a major studio for high school theater kids.
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I have no loving clue what Travolta was going for in American Crime Story, but it was hilariously bad.
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Just your regular reminder that Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is truly an incredibly crafted masterpiece.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I've been meaning to rewatch it, probably Travolta's best performance (and he has more great performances than he gets credit for) My dad insists on calling him John Ravolta, but dude gave it his all in Face/Off, and he's good in Pulp Fiction and Carrie, he's in my good graces.
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feedmyleg posted:Just your regular reminder that Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is truly an incredibly crafted masterpiece. One of the few films for which my appreciation increases on every rewatch. It's so elegant.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:10
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John Travolta is a Scientologist so I won't watch him
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Jun 19, 2017 15:23
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I'm not very well read on this stuff, but I think I agree with Chomsky that a lot of marxist-theory and stuff like "dialectics" is a buncha intellectual fraud. Žižek isn't very hard to read, but Derrida and Lacan are harder to penetrate than quantum physics, and I don't really understand why it needs to be that way if there's really anything going on there. Idk, I'm about to read some Hegel and start Das Kapital so maybe after that I'll be able to understand it. It's validating tho that Chomsky doesn't understand dialectics. (lil mamas been hittin the books lately, that's why i aint as active and all i have to talk about is this poo poo) Lil Mama Im Sorry fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 15:49
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It's more that the modern interpretation of dialectics is often a bunch of hooey. Go back to some of the ancient Greek writings, particularly (especially, even) Plato, and you'll see that it's essentially an idea of finding truth by being contrarian to established thought, which is a perfectly acceptable form of argument, to the point that many of the great Roman orators used it frequently. Marxist dialectic is 31 flavors of bullshit. Hegel is impenetrable to me, so I can't really comment on his stuff.
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If y'all are gonna come in here callin Das Kapital some bullshit we're gonna have a lotta words.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:17
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Anonymous Robot posted:If y'all are gonna come in here callin Das Kapital some bullshit we're gonna have a lotta words. Pfft, don't you know the only legitimate system of economics is the one where poor people are burned alive in their homes so the capital holders can save a few thousand pounds on cladding???
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Jun 19, 2017 16:20
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Admittedly I haven't read Das Kapital in probably four or five years, but my issue with Marx isn't really his conclusions (considering pretty much my entire family has branded me the socialist black sheep) but more the circuitous -- at best -- reasoning he uses to get to them.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:20
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Das Kapital? Sounds pretty bougie imho
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Jun 19, 2017 16:21
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Timby posted:I have no loving clue what Travolta was going for in American Crime Story, but it was hilariously bad. You should have stopped at "clue" because Travolta ruled in ACS.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:22
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More like Das Krap my Balls.
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Budgie Jumping posted:You should have stopped at "clue" because Travolta ruled in ACS. We just finished the last three episodes last night, and I can't agree at all -- that bizarre, clipped-tone way of speaking was bordering on self-parody. Courtney B. Vance absolutely killed it in that show, though. Wow.
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Anonymous Robot posted:If y'all are gonna come in here callin Das Kapital some bullshit we're gonna have a lotta words. I ain't talkin poo poo about Marx, Marxism, or Das Kapital. I'm talkin about the weird dialectical poo poo you find in stuff like Zizek. Of Marx i've only read the Communist Manifesto so im a horrible leftist
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glam rock hamhock posted:More like Das Krap my Balls. I guess you can dere-lick my balls, capitan
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I'm not very well read on this stuff, but I think I agree with Chomsky that a lot of marxist-theory and stuff like "dialectics" is a buncha intellectual fraud. Žižek isn't very hard to read, but Derrida and Lacan are harder to penetrate than quantum physics, and I don't really understand why it needs to be that way if there's really anything going on there. Idk, I'm about to read some Hegel and start Das Kapital so maybe after that I'll be able to understand it. The Chomsky Foucault debate is a pro watch. Zizek is a charlatan and honestly in terms of the depth and significance of his analysis he is one step removed from "Kamala Harris is Danaerys Targaryen" hot takes. If people are going to read Marxian theory in 2017 I would suggest cutting out the psychoanalysis (the real fraud in all this) and look at some Hardt and Negri at least
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Derrida is only useful if you have to talk with English professors. Lacan is only useful because if you see a writer clown on him you know you can trust them
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The Chomsky Foucault debate is a pro watch. Well, ive gotta read Das Kapital first, then next up is a biography of Buenaventura Durruti, and then Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent. Any standout recs for Hardt and Negri?
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Zizek uses a buncha multi-syllabic words in a confusing way to say something that's simple. It's got a cool headiness to it but besides that it just feels like mental masturbation.
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Hollismason posted:Raw Deal is a underrated Arnold pic For real.
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