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Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Hollismason posted:

I kind of wonder just how bad it's going to be

Dogshit.

Worse than the house bill

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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Who's in charge of writing it I wanna look up any previous healthcare policy they've written

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Daniel Tosh used to have a show that was just showing month old Youtube clips and it got millions of viewers per episode.

He still does.

I think Trump thinks we're building the Panama canal.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876833713811795970

Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Daniel Tosh used to have a show that was just showing month old Youtube clips and it got millions of viewers per episode.

Still running.

"The show has reached No. 1 ratings for its timeslot among men within the ages of 18–24, reaching millions of viewers at a time."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosh.0

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Hollismason posted:

Who's in charge of writing it I wanna look up any previous healthcare policy they've written

We don't know who exactly is writing it, but they have a working group of 13 Senators that they are allowing into the drafting meetings.


quote:

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
Sen. John Cornyn of Texas
Sen. John Thune of South Dakota
Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming

HELP Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee
Budget Chairman Mike Enzi of Wyoming
Finance Chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas
Sen. Mike Lee of Utah
Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas

Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado
Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio
Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Hollismason posted:

Who's in charge of writing it I wanna look up any previous healthcare policy they've written

:iiam:

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Hollismason posted:

Who's in charge of writing it I wanna look up any previous healthcare policy they've written

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/860522339301302272

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/security-lapse-exposes-198-million-united-states-voter-records/

quote:

The various databases containing 198 million records on American voters from all political parties were found stored on an open Amazon S3 storage server owned by a Republican data analytics firm, Deep Root Analytics.

UpGuard cyber risk analyst Chris Vickery, who found the exposed server, verified the data. Through his responsible disclosure, the server was secured late last week, and prior to publication.

This leak shines a spotlight on the Republicans' multi-million dollar effort to better target potential voters by utilizing big data. The move largely a response to the successes of the Barack Obama campaign in 2008, thought to have been the first data-driven campaign.

So it seems Republicans were even better at Big Data than Hillary. Tood bad they're even worse at securing that info.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Hollismason posted:

Who's in charge of writing it I wanna look up any previous healthcare policy they've written

Haha, there is no healthcare policy experience. None of them took part in helping with the ACA beyond maybe some sabotage amendments. They're literally doing this w/o *any* help, from insurance or hospital or anything involved in what they're 'regulating'

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://twitter.com/JaySekulow/status/795676204267405312

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Kal-L posted:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/security-lapse-exposes-198-million-united-states-voter-records/


So it seems Republicans were even better at Big Data than Hillary. Tood bad they're even worse at securing that info.

Reminder that the RNC got hacked at about the same time as the DNC by the same source, and yet we haven't seen any republican emails floating around on the internet :thunk:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

quote:

The data leak contains a wealth of personal information on roughly 61 percent of the US population. Along with home addresses, birthdates, and phone numbers, the records include advanced sentiment analyses used by political groups to predict where individual voters fall on hot-button issues such as gun ownership, stem cell research, and the right to abortion, as well as suspected religious affiliation and ethnicity. The data was amassed from a variety of sources—from the banned subreddit r/fatpeoplehate to American Crossroads, the super PAC co-founded by former White House strategist Karl Rove.

hoyl poo poo

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Endorph posted:

hoyl poo poo

Link to this?

Raylen
Aug 1, 2003

You just killed the nice deranged chick from the juice bar that I was gonna score with someday maybe!
Pillbug

:sad:


Chilichimp posted:

Link to this?


^^^^ https://gizmodo.com/gop-data-firm-accidentally-leaks-personal-details-of-ne-1796211612

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...researcher-says

WaPo link if people have "issues" with Gizmodo's reporting

Raylen fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 19, 2017

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Endorph posted:

hoyl poo poo

In the grim darkness of the near future, cyberpunk political parties assemble a perfect picture of your beliefs and voting history based on your posting history on bigoted subreddits

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Endorph posted:

quote:

The data was amassed from a variety of sources—from the banned subreddit r/fatpeoplehate to American Crossroads...

hoyl poo poo

U fockin what mate?

I swear that whole incident was just a trial run for r/T_D.


I'll take "Idiots who don't know what impeachment means or who it applies to" for 800 Alex.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

'we might not know his opinions on abortion, but we sure do know he hates john goodman'

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
Address, birthday, and phone number

great, they have enough information to take out a boat loan on random Americans

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
If the AHCA gets signed into law the democrats need to run in 2018 on a "give us a veto-proof super majority so we can unfuck your healthcare before it's too late."

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Jealous Cow posted:

If the AHCA gets signed into law the democrats need to run in 2018 on a "give us a veto-proof super majority so we can unfuck your healthcare before it's too late."

None of the provisions will be in effect before the election and people will just think everything is fine.

Almost 1/3 of the population currently thinks that Obamacare has already been repealed and replaced.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

Jealous Cow posted:

If the AHCA gets signed into law the democrats need to run in 2018 on a "give us a veto-proof super majority so we can unfuck your healthcare before it's too late."
This is literally impossible, 2018 is an extra-lovely map in both House and Senate.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Every one in the house is up.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Jealous Cow posted:

If the AHCA gets signed into law the democrats need to run in 2018 on a "give us a veto-proof super majority so we can unfuck your healthcare before it's too late."

The sad part is that it isn't doomsaying to say millions of poor people will be killed by the bill long, long before dems even have a chance of fixing it.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Crain posted:

I'll take "Idiots who don't know what impeachment means or who it applies to" for 800 Alex.

It applies to civil officers which is basically defined as people who have been appointed. The FBI Director is a civil officer and could be impeached.

Generally though impeachment has been used to get rid of people with lifetime appointments because you can just fire anyone else.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Radish posted:

Every one in the house is up.

It's impossible for dems to take the senate.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
Oh, Fox News. I hate my work break room for having it on one of two TVs.

They ran a brief piece about the guy who ran over some Muslims right after their service. The chyrons?

"VAN ATTACK BEING INVESTIGATED AS TERRORISM"
and something like
"VAN ATTACK TARGETED PEOPLE LEAVING RELIGIOUS SERVICES"

Kind of leaving out some pretty key info, IMHO.

Raylen
Aug 1, 2003

You just killed the nice deranged chick from the juice bar that I was gonna score with someday maybe!
Pillbug

theflyingorc posted:

Address, birthday, and phone number

great, they have enough information to take out a boat loan on random Americans

quote:

In all, the leaked files amount to more than 1,000 gigabytes of data — more than four times the size of any previous breach of this type, according to Vickery. The data fields included views on specific issues including abortion, gun rights and environmental issues, he said.

I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that can use this data to target political and commercial ads. UpGuard has a whole detailed report on their website which is even more amazing. Stuff like:

quote:

In total, 1.1 terabytes of data in the warehouse—an amount roughly equivalent to 500 hours worth of video—was fully downloadable. Among these files were clear indications of the repository’s political importance, with file directories named for a number of high-powered and influential Republican political organizations. As such, the exposed Deep Root Analytics warehouse contained a remarkable amount of fully accessible data.

Yet this was not all. An additional 24 terabytes of data was stored in the warehouse, but had been configured to prevent public access. Ultimately, the amount of data stored in the misconfigured database was equivalent in size to about 10 billion pages of text.

Good thing public access wasn't switched on for the additional 24 TBs :v:

https://www.upguard.com/breaches/the-rnc-files

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Kal-L posted:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/security-lapse-exposes-198-million-united-states-voter-records/

So it seems Republicans were even better at Big Data than Hillary. Tood bad they're even worse at securing that info.
Slim upside: Uh, now the Ds have it too? :shrug:

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Does anyone have an article on this "blank bill"/"dummy bill" tactic? I haven't found a writeup of the senate GOP strategy to attempt passing this bill.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Covok posted:

It's impossible for dems to take the senate.

If they win all 8 of their vulnerable incumbent races, win Nevada, win Arizona, and then win either Texas/Tennessee/Nebraska/Utah, then they've got a majority!

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Covok posted:

It's impossible for dems to take the senate.

Sure, in 2018. But really, given that the Republicans will control the White House until 2020 anyway, that's kind of a moot point. Getting the House means a divided Congress, so no new legislation. 2020 will be a different Senate map, and hopefully a Democratic White House. If we get unified control of government, we could pass another health care bill through reconciliation, and I bet that health care will be big issue for the 2020 campaign.

I honestly doubt that pushing the Medicaid & Medicare cuts back will actually provide political cover. The outrage is going to happen. It's an extremely unpopular bill.

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos
Interesting article

quote:

"I don't want to sound like I'm suggesting anything," Parsons says, "but speaking as a historian, violent resistance was very effective. We've told ourselves a story about the Klan facing cowering victims, but people organized, fought, and defeated the Klan constantly." Black Americans in the Reconstruction South were often armed, not just as individuals but as communities, for collective self-defense. "There were places the Klan couldn't go," Parsons says, "people who, according to their code, they should have attacked, who they didn't."

Fighting back also dispelled the air of comedy. In 1868, when costumed night-riders showed up at Bob Anderson's home in Knoxville, Tennessee, he came out shooting. The local liberal paper celebrated Anderson, writing, "We wonder now if the Conservative papers will deny that the Kuklux sneak about the country in the unhallowed business of stealing from the freedmen. A Kluklux has been killed, laid low by the bullet of a brave colored man who had courage to defend his home from the assaults of reckless villains." If history is to be our guide, ignoring or laughing at the alt-right isn't going to be good enough. We have to take these jokers seriously.

What I'm seeing is that the KKK, like Ted Nugent, didn't actually care enough to stand up for their beliefs in the face of actual consequences. So I guess it wasn't that important to them.

Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

If they win all 8 of their vulnerable incumbent races, win Nevada, win Arizona, and then win either Texas/Tennessee/Nebraska/Utah, then they've got a majority!

I'm seeing a lot about Beto O'Rourke down here already, and Cruz's failed presidential bid isn't going to help him.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Supreme Court just ruled that the law banning offensive images and racial slurs from being trademarked is unconstitutional.

So, the Redskins get their trademark back and they are never changing their name or logo.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/aabramson/status/876857780195516416
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/876854248461524996
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876856637595799552
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876786786764238849
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876791632049426433
https://twitter.com/MuckRock/status/876843280113311748
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/876801707291947008
https://twitter.com/alexis_levinson/status/876835329889763328
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/876786655373344770
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876833713811795970
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/876798520971415553
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876839087327653890
https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/876474364371316736
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/876830842705858561
https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/876853801805893632
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/876857364468690945
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/876847100612542464

And now your moment of schadenfreude:
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/876850931320709121

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 19, 2017

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
Dems win the house in 2018, they vote to impeach trump, the Senate has an impeachment trial, and republican senators are faced with an impossible dilemma going into the 2020 election--defend Radioactive Trump or stab MAGA in the back. That's a no win situation for them.

SurgicalOntologist
Jun 17, 2004

It would be nice if they could publish that data in a way that allows you to look up your own information (e.g. by confirming your email or phone). It would be cool to see what they figured out about me with sentiment analysis.

The stuff about scraping /r/fatpeoplehate is interesting too. The explanation in the article, that they maybe were trying to analyze what appealed to Trump voters, seems kind of stupid since these aren't the people they needed to appeal to--they were already onboard the Trump train. Maybe I'm missing something though. A Louise Mensch-type explanation could be that they were trying to train their bots...

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

farraday posted:

It applies to civil officers which is basically defined as people who have been appointed. The FBI Director is a civil officer and could be impeached.



While not wrong: He's already been fired. There's nothing to impeach.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

SurgicalOntologist posted:

It would be nice if they could publish that data in a way that allows you to look up your own information (e.g. by confirming your email or phone). It would be cool to see what they figured out about me with sentiment analysis.

The stuff about scraping /r/fatpeoplehate is interesting too. The explanation in the article, that they maybe were trying to analyze what appealed to Trump voters, seems kind of stupid since these aren't the people they needed to appeal to--they were already onboard the Trump train. Maybe I'm missing something though. A Louise Mensch-type explanation could be that they were trying to train their bots...

Fatpeoplehate predated the Trump campaign. That's the point: the targeting worked.

I think.

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Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

pumpinglemma posted:

This is literally impossible, 2018 is an extra-lovely map in both House and Senate.

Senate, yes. The House never changes. House terms are 2 years long.

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