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TheKingofSprings posted:I know Thespian's stage is better but it's still neat with Depths Pretty sure any boring 1 wincon deck is gonna run this as a second Thespian's Stage in EDH for the double Dark Depths enabler.
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Dark Depths is an extraordinarily lovely wincon in EDH though. Multiple 40 life players and the prevalence of exile removal makes it kind of a dud.
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Actually, something that was pointed out to me - Mirror is also a combo with Time Vault, as it just becomes a mirror at the end of your turn and untaps in your next one.
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If I'm selling off my entire collection of Standard format cards and decks, is it smarter (more profitable) to sell them now, or after the next set is released in a couple weeks?
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Subways Jared posted:If I'm selling off my entire collection of Standard format cards and decks, is it smarter (more profitable) to sell them now, or after the next set is released in a couple weeks? Sell the pre Kaladesh cards now, the rest will rise or stay the same, in aggregate. Obviously individual cards can rise and fall but pre Kaladesh cards are about to seriously dip if they aren't played in modern.
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odiv posted:Sell the stuff that will fall in price, but not the stuff that will rise. Marketing New Brain posted:Sell the pre Kaladesh cards now, the rest will rise or stay the same, in aggregate. Obviously individual cards can rise and fall but pre Kaladesh cards are about to seriously dip if they aren't played in modern. Woops, you posted this right before my original reply. Thanks. Dennis McClaren fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Siivola posted:Looking at the official site, they're only making black ones at the moment. Yeah when I hassled them on social media they said they have made one small batch for testing (that they sent out to a few people). And that a regular run would be "this summer" Which is pretty vague and I loving hope they get on it
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Subways Jared posted:I'm not any sort of MTG prospector, or investor, so I would have no idea what cards those are. While I never expected any sort of return on my investment, I don't want to lose more money than I have to. Which is why I'm asking, in general, is it smarter to sell off your STD collection now before the set release, or wait until after. Standard follows a very predictable pattern, based on rotation. All of the pre Kladaesh sets are past their peak, their value is only going down, as they are one block away from rotation. Kaladesh cards will be on the upswing, and they will eventually peak once they are in demand but we are further from their draft, once the set after Hour of Devastation comes out. Amonkhet, on the other hand, is at its absolute low point, having just been drafted in a single set format, and packs are still going to trickle in with the next set. You will have to wait 6 or so months before you can realize the full value of your Amonkhet cards. You can look at the price history of a card like Tireless Tracker https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Shadows+over+Innistrad/Tireless+Tracker#online and expect the powerful in demand Amonkhet rares to follow the same price pattern. So it would be reasonable to expect an in demand rare like Glorybringer to be about twice what it is now in a year's time. So you basically have to sell them off in waves ~ 1 year from their release date, and if you are past that, as soon as possible.
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It's sad that a creature which would have been incredible a decade ago is probably fated to be mediocre at best nowadays. I liked Woodland Wanderer too.
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There was that one Temur deck at Pro Tour BFZ that used 4 wanderer and was never played again.
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I will say that I definitely don't understand why you would have ever played Woodland Wanderer in a format that included Siege Rhino.
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Kurtofan posted:I heard there's a new unhinged type set coming? Yep. Maro has been working on it for ~7 years and it's going to be actually designed as a proper set (for limited) this time instead of throwing in a bunch of gimmicks at random.
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well holy poo poo i missed a lot of stuff, core set, unset, leaked set, new set, dominaria set anything else
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Kurtofan posted:well holy poo poo i missed a lot of stuff, core set, unset, leaked set, new set, dominaria set The Gatewatch Did you catch the Marvel ban?
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Kurtofan posted:well holy poo poo i missed a lot of stuff, core set, unset, leaked set, new set, dominaria set There was a 6 year old girl in a feature match at GP Vegas.
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The Shortest Path posted:It's sad that a creature which would have been incredible a decade ago is probably fated to be mediocre at best nowadays. I liked Woodland Wanderer too. I actually thought that Hydra was an uncommon at first. 5/5 Reach Vigilance Trample isn't particularly notable for 3G, and this makes you have to put a lot of work in to get there. They could have cost this at 2G and it would have potential, but as it is it's just a pretty good beater in limited that sometimes becomes very good if you have the Desert Deck. Some Numbers posted:There was a 6 year old girl in a feature match at GP Vegas. She finished at 5-4, a much better record than most goons can claim.
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Hellsau posted:She finished at 5-4, a much better record than most goons can claim. That's awesome!
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She round one curbstomped a sad man with Elves on the featured stream, it was wonderful to watch.
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:So, unrelated to spoiler news: I want to make a Modern tokens deck that uses Signal Pest instead of the expensive cards, about 10% because I think it could be actually reasonable and 90% so I can play Signal Pest and Intangible Virtue in the same deck and call it "Virtue Signalling". 
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Hellsau posted:I actually thought that Hydra was an uncommon at first. 5/5 Reach Vigilance Trample isn't particularly notable for 3G, and this makes you have to put a lot of work in to get there. They could have cost this at 2G and it would have potential, but as it is it's just a pretty good beater in limited that sometimes becomes very good if you have the Desert Deck. This really does feel like a build around be limited uncommon, slightly above curve and rewards you for synergy drafting. If this were a 4/4 every time it wouldn't see play in constructed.
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Hellsau posted:5/5 Reach Vigilance Trample isn't particularly notable for 3G, ...And this, kids, it's what we call "power creep".
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Marketing New Brain posted:This really does feel like a build around be limited uncommon, slightly above curve and rewards you for synergy drafting. If this were a 4/4 every time it wouldn't see play in constructed. If it were a 5/5 every time it wouldn't see play. Four mana 5/5s don't see play no matter how good they are at blocking. Turning on Woodland Wanderer was easy, much easier than this, it's just that if your four mana French vanilla creature doesn't have lifelink and flying it's kind of outclassed. If it were the same card, but got +2/+2 for a Desert in play and +2/+2 for a Desert in the yard, there's a chance some deck wants a four mana 7/7 trampler. A four mana 5/5 that requires a bad land in play and requires you to cycle a land for two mana is just crap. I'm guessing this was too good in testing at 1GG, and they bumped it up to 3G. The art is cool though. YggdrasilTM posted:...And this, kids, it's what we call "power creep". Blastoderm had haste a lot of the time, and Shroud is better than all the words on this Hydra, and who cares about Fading if your opponent is toast? Fires was great.
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Hellsau posted:If it were a 5/5 every time it wouldn't see play. Four mana 5/5s don't see play no matter how good they are at blocking. Turning on Woodland Wanderer was easy, much easier than this, it's just that if your four mana French vanilla creature doesn't have lifelink and flying it's kind of outclassed. If it were the same card, but got +2/+2 for a Desert in play and +2/+2 for a Desert in the yard, there's a chance some deck wants a four mana 7/7 trampler. A four mana 5/5 that requires a bad land in play and requires you to cycle a land for two mana is just crap. I'm guessing this was too good in testing at 1GG, and they bumped it up to 3G. I seriously doubt this card was too good at 1GG, but yeah it feels like a rare that they had to dial back for some reason or another. I also find the idea that creature power creep is a real issue hilarious. Spiritmonger was over 15 years ago.
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I suppose this is a way to cast Bolas.
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I love the typebar straining to contain the grotesque construction that is 'Legendary Creature- Zombie Minotaur Warrior'
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Y'know, I'm curious to see if any eternal creatures make it into Standard. Mardu Zombies, anyone?
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