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Tired Moritz posted:Is Clair the Est of this game? Is it normal that she's getting four stats up per level regularly or am I just really lucky? Est is the Est. Claire is actually really good.
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Tired Moritz posted:Is Clair the Est of this game? Is it normal that she's getting four stats up per level regularly or am I just really lucky? Lucky. Mine literally never gained strength and was tickling enemies by chapter 3.
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Zore posted:Lucky. My Whitewings were all horrid. My Est procced single HP levels 4 times. Which considering it's only a 35% growth is loving miracle.
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Zore posted:Lucky. And right after reading this, I got an almost perfect level except for Res. I guess to compensate, my dreadlords are overwhelmingly terrible with a crapton of one stat ups.
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Onmi posted:My Whitewings were all horrid. My Est procced single HP levels 4 times. Which considering it's only a 35% growth is loving miracle. Apparently in Echoes if you'd be getting an empty level, you'd get a +1 HP level instead.  So chances are your Est got about 2-3 empty levels out of those!
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Do promotion levels count for learning spells purposes, or should I get Luthier to level 15 for Sagittae first?
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The former. Just promote him right now.
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blizzardvizard posted:Apparently in Echoes if you'd be getting an empty level, you'd get a +1 HP level instead. My favourite was Palla (At 60% strength, I think the highest in the game.) having the lowest strength across both parties and my Kliff being one of the slowest.
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cheetah7071 posted:So like, if Cipher has original characters, are they from any of the normal FE worlds? Are they just sort of there, in this FE card game, not being FE characters, or are they inserted retroactively into old stories as original character do not steals? The Hidari art for them looks like it belongs in Fire Emblem, so I am eating crow on this 50-page-old post
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cheetah7071 posted:The Hidari art for them looks like it belongs in Fire Emblem, so I am eating crow on this 50-page-old post Speaking of which, since I don't think it was posted:    
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I hope Hidari gets/can do more Fire Emblem art. The aesthetic in Echoes really helps set the tone, and while some of the designs are only practical in fantasy-land settings, none of them go waaaaay over the top with impracticality imo. There was also a refreshing amount of variety in people's facial features and stuff
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Jun 19, 2017 22:42
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Hidari feels more skilled at drawing different poses for art as well
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Jun 20, 2017 03:25
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As opposed to....who, the gameboy people?
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Jun 20, 2017 03:29
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Blazing/Binding, Sacred Stones, Console, and Fates/Awakening were all different artists, weren't they?
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I mean, it's a weird comment considering the last artist put a variety of poses on his art which was very dynamic compared to most of the franchise before it.
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What's the Saint girl even trying to do with her leg? Is she leaning against an invisible wall and bracing against it?
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Jun 20, 2017 03:41
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Probably sitting on an invisible ledge, like Claire.
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Finally finished the game and here are a couple things I've noticed about the world of Valentia: - The political and social structure of the realm is governed by the size of a person's cape. Villagers are cape-less and thus of no worth to society, but as a person gain ranks and changes their class they gain increasing larger and multi-layered capes to designate their new status. This trend continues right up to the King who wears a cape large enough to cover a small bus. I was legitimately surprised the gods were represented as dragons and not by giant sentient capes. - The entire economy is apparently based on the trading of alcohol to the point where even the dregs of an half drank ale bottle are worth more than a finely crafted sword or shield.
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Vakal posted:Finally finished the game and here are a couple things I've noticed about the world of Valentia: Just what do you think their wings are, guy.
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I like Echoes a lot so far (up to Act 3), more than I enjoyed Fates at any rate. It seems to have more in common with a traditional RPG than the rest of FE and I have to change my mindset about some stuff, but it's a really smooth experience so far. When does Forging open up though?
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Levantine posted:I like Echoes a lot so far (up to Act 3), more than I enjoyed Fates at any rate. It seems to have more in common with a traditional RPG than the rest of FE and I have to change my mindset about some stuff, but it's a really smooth experience so far. Chapter 3. Find a village that showed up in that chapter and it'll have a blacksmith.
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uhh did I somehow not recruit Mathilda? She didn't die. Was I supposed to talk to her or something?
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Jun 20, 2017 20:32
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She's in the castle, go free her.
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Jun 20, 2017 20:34
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Oh what the hell? I got spooked.
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I admit I completely forgot about Jesse (Nomah too, lol) I freed him from his cell, only it was right before Duma tower. Dude got released to Celica's bench. Not being made to fight in a war dramatically improved his chance of survival, I guess
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I don't see the point of Jesse really, Celica's route is already way to chock full of sword dudes and it doesn't seem like he really excels at anything.
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dread fighters are op and you can deploy everyone
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I don't see the point of Jesse really, Celica's route is already way to chock full of sword dudes and it doesn't seem like he really excels at anything. More Dread Fighters, or not more Dread Fighters? I'm gonna go with more.
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if you pick sonya and make atlas into something else celica only has 3 sword dudes which isn't exactly a lot in a game with only six classes
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His Skill is real good so he can use the Zweihander the best out of Celica's dreadfighters.
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Endorph posted:if you pick sonya and make atlas into something else celica only has 3 sword dudes which isn't exactly a lot in a game with only six classes but why would you pick sonya when you could get another dread fighter instead more dread frighters mooooore
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Jun 21, 2017 04:10
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'cause i wanna gently caress sonya
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Pureauthor posted:but why would you pick sonya when you could get another dread fighter instead Because Sonya is more interesting as a character.
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Pureauthor posted:but why would you pick sonya when you could get another dread fighter instead Cause Boey is kind of not a great mage and Saber/Kamui are good? Also kinda what endorph said.
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Celica's maps really don't lend well to having a lot of melee characters.
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Tae posted:Celica's maps really don't lend well to having a lot of melee characters. If anything they lend even worse to having a bunch of a 4 MOV dudes. At least Dreads get 7 MOV on promo. Endorph posted:'cause i wanna gently caress sonya I remain confident in my statement that whether or not you recruit Sonya will have minimal impact on your ability to get physical with her.
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Sonya and Genny cutest friends I knew I made the right decision choosing her when she killed a guy and said he was too ugly to win  Also, the little bits of dialogue Sonya has with Jedah, Hestia, and uh, Otherwitchia were an interesting extra layer of plot for me. Idk at the end I had 3 DFs (Grey, Saber, Kamui) and 3 Brave Swords... and while more DFs is more DFs, that was already plenty powerful to begin with.
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Does anyone besides Sonya even have contextual dialogue when facing an specific opponent on the battlefield? Even combos like Clive vs Fernand and Alm vs Berkut just gives you the generic battle taunt.
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sonya and genny got married in their endings. gay marriage isn't legal in echoesland which is why genny had to lie about it and why they had to leave for a bit. they went to fateslandia and got married there. then they came back and spread the witch rumor to escape noted anti-gay activists, like kamui.
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Vakal posted:Does anyone besides Sonya even have contextual dialogue when facing an specific opponent on the battlefield?
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