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FuzzySkinner posted:people will eventually find their random heroes to idolize regardless of background. i saw a bunch of As we've been seeing in Indycar, when the racing is good a driver's personality will shine through in the way he/she drives. Scott Dixon is the most boring person in the world, but his racing career is so incredible that you're only left to respect the guy and also hate it every time he comes in second place from out of nowhere, again. Jimmy Johnson is the NASCAR equivalent to Dixon. We all hate him, but only because he's a loving good racer and not a bad person.
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types cheering on guys like Helio and Kanaan at Indy. i could see happening with the current crop of guys in Cup if they could figure out a way to make the racing better.
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VikingSkull posted:Hmmm, this Kyle Larson kid is checkers or wreckers but he doesn't talk much so I guess he's boring??? He's also a diversity hire! 
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#88- Brad Keselowski? #5 or 77- Matt Kenseth? #5 or 88- Carl Edwards? #12- Ryan Blaney? #21- Paul Menard? From the same article: quote:Same goes for Patrick, who said last week said she wants to continue racing. She must really love it, then: After a hard hit Sunday at Michigan, it's starting to seem less and less worth the effort for Patrick. If Danica stays in Cup, she's either obsessed with the idea she's a top-tier driver who just needs to break out or is just insane. Or both. http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/19683162/silly-season-heating-up
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I mean, she could also just want to keep racing because she wants to keep racing, like any other driver who runs consistently in the back of the pack.
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VikingSkull posted:Hmmm, this Kyle Larson kid is checkers or wreckers but he doesn't talk much so I guess he's boring??? Remember when he bounced off the goddam wall literally every other lap at Eldora? He should have told knock knock jokes or something, instead.
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Harveygod posted:Remember when he bounced off the goddam wall literally every other lap at Eldora? He should have told knock knock jokes or something, instead. And still almost won.
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Elitist Bitch posted:He's also a diversity hire! having seen him at Williams Grove in a sprint car I can safely state that the dude would've made it regardless it's just a shame that the special needs hire, John Wes Townley, will never get the same opportunity
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WindyMan posted:As we've been seeing in Indycar, when the racing is good a driver's personality will shine through in the way he/she drives. Scott Dixon is the most boring person in the world, but his racing career is so incredible that you're only left to respect the guy and also hate it every time he comes in second place from out of nowhere, again. Jimmy Johnson is the NASCAR equivalent to Dixon. We all hate him, but only because he's a loving good racer and not a bad person. I'll sound like a broken record here, but I don't think NASCAR understands that sort of thing really can't happen the way they're set up. When someone wins at Kansas/Chicagoland/Texas/Kentucky/Las Vegas...? It's not a big deal. There's not a lot of racing culture at those tracks, and the lore at them is very weak. I can't tell you a single significant moment that happened at any of those (In NASCAR. IRL is a different story.). Yet these are the venues that NASCAR has decided to invest all their efforts in trying to turn into big events. To significant parts of the country that are apathetic at best in those regions. Now Sears Points, Talladega, Bristol, Charlotte, Daytona, Darlington, The Glen...hell even IMS. All of those have moments, and memories ingrained into my memory from watching cup race those back in the day. But it feels like NASCAR has severly downgraded their importance in light of the post-Chase, post-CORT era.
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I promise you I didn't write this article
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Elitist Bitch posted:loving lol: I really hate that one. A race when the points battle has been decided isn't meaningless, it's meaningful because it's a goddamn motor race and you want to see who wins. A points race is numbers on a spreadsheet. Somehow all those boring points battles in the 90s didn't stop NASCAR from getting popular.
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the ugly truth is a whole mess of deaths made NASCAR popular
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Losing Davey and Alan was arguably damaging, not helpful. It's actually amazing that NASCAR didn't get hurt over losing two young generational talents in half a year. The truth is that Jeff Gordon made NASCAR popular. Not deaths.
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If drivers getting killed made a sport more popular open wheel would be king in America.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Losing Davey and Alan was arguably damaging, not helpful. It's actually amazing that NASCAR didn't get hurt over losing two young generational talents in half a year. Gordon was a boon.
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Yeah, Gordon was a fresh face, insanely talented, and someone who wasn't a good ol' boy. The battles between him and Dale were really good from a marketing standpoint.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I really hate that one. A race when the points battle has been decided isn't meaningless, it's meaningful because it's a goddamn motor race and you want to see who wins. Which is why people don't give a poo poo about the chase when the on track product isn't quality. Does it add a bit to it, sure. Does it help having close margins between leader and 2nd, usually. But if you don't have the other 15-25 top positions having an actual battle either because no one can pass, that's more a problem than leaders pulling away. That is NASCAR.txt. "You don't like the product? gently caress you, deal with it, we're not going to make it watchable". Not only clueless about their racing quality, but tone deaf to suggestion.
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VikingSkull posted:the ugly truth is a whole mess of deaths made NASCAR popular Hahah yeah good one!
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Though to be fair viking you're the guy who jacks off to pictures of adam petty wishing you could've been in the car when he died so maybe it's just you who needs to be institutionalized and not every single person in the country.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I really hate that one. A race when the points battle has been decided isn't meaningless, it's meaningful because it's a goddamn motor race and you want to see who wins. A points race is numbers on a spreadsheet. Somehow all those boring points battles in the 90s didn't stop NASCAR from getting popular. It's weirdly tone deaf. Like the reaction to most people brought up in that piece was to never bother watching cup or going to a race. A lot of people fled and found other stuff to do with their time. The people that brought up those points were genrally long time, hard core fans of the series. NASCAR gave them the finger in the 2000's to chase the mythical soccer mom and dad. ... and they're still chasing them. Even after both bailed after the 08 economic collapse.
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Peanut President posted:Though to be fair viking you're the guy who jacks off to pictures of adam petty wishing you could've been in the car when he died so maybe it's just you who needs to be institutionalized and not every single person in the country. adam petty was terrible
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I really hate that one. A race when the points battle has been decided isn't meaningless, it's meaningful because it's a goddamn motor race and you want to see who wins. A points race is numbers on a spreadsheet. Somehow all those boring points battles in the 90s didn't stop NASCAR from getting popular. By this logic no one cares about the clash or the all star race.
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VikingSkull posted:adam petty was terrible you and him have a lot in common
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I haven't been able to sit through a Cup race since Daytona. Stage racing has literally ended my enjoyment of the series. It's like the car switching in Formula E: until they get rid of that poo poo, I simply cannot care. Gonna give it another shot this weekend cause its Sears Point and the other racing that day doesnt conflict. See how this goes.
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Peanut President posted:you and him have a lot in common When did Viking crush a crewman?
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Cygni posted:I haven't been able to sit through a Cup race since Daytona. Stage racing has literally ended my enjoyment of the series. It's like the car switching in Formula E: until they get rid of that poo poo, I simply cannot care. At least you made it through Daytona. I haven't watched more that 20 percent of a race yet. I consider myself a Larsen fan but i find myself losing interest when I am watching the race.
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Cygni posted:I haven't been able to sit through a Cup race since Daytona. Stage racing has literally ended my enjoyment of the series. It's like the car switching in Formula E: until they get rid of that poo poo, I simply cannot care. Same, I turn every race on and see the "STAGE 1" graphics and turn it right back off. Seems pointless. It's funny, the idea is to make the entire race meaningful, but for me it does the opposite. NASCAR needs to be less contrived, not more.
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It's bizarre to me that the stages would be the tipping point for you guys, it feels so benign compared to all the other horseshit. But trying to make an argument in favor of watching NASCAR at this point just feels so depressingly futile, so I'm not even gonna try.
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kidcoelacanth posted:It's bizarre to me that the stages would be the tipping point for you guys, it feels so benign compared to all the other horseshit. But trying to make an argument in favor of watching NASCAR at this point just feels so depressingly futile, so I'm not even gonna try. If only there were an idiom that describes a seemingly small event being more impactful than you'd expect...
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kidcoelacanth posted:It's bizarre to me that the stages would be the tipping point for you guys, it feels so benign compared to all the other horseshit. But trying to make an argument in favor of watching NASCAR at this point just feels so depressingly futile, so I'm not even gonna try. yeah I think there's like three of us that still enjoy watching it, which is why I hardly post or go in IRC anymore oh well
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VikingSkull posted:yeah I think there's like three of us that still enjoy watching it, which is why I hardly post or go in IRC anymore You lust for Danica crashes
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I enjoy watching NASCAR. But everything isn't fine.
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Stage racing is like a fairer version of debris cautions
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I don't usually follow NASCAR but why were heats not considered? Or just red flags between stages?
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Human Grand Prix posted:I don't usually follow NASCAR but why were heats not considered? Or just red flags between stages? thread_title.txt
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Human Grand Prix posted:I don't usually follow NASCAR but why were heats not considered? Or just red flags between stages? In my experience, heats are the way that tracks narrow down the field for the final race because there are so many entries. For example, if a track has 100 entries and the quarter mile oval suits having 30 for the final, then heats make a lot of sense. NASCAR doesn't have enough entries to justify a need for heats. Also, the sponsors would be pissed if their 18 million dollar car doesn't make the main even 3 races in a row.
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