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Dias posted:Since I know no one here bothered watching Smash 4: smashplayers.gif, basically
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Jun 19, 2017 12:37
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Lol ok that kind of owns
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Jun 19, 2017 16:02
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That is a top quality intro.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:26
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Elephunk posted:smashplayers.gif, basically I didn't know you held them in such high esteem.
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Jun 19, 2017 18:55
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EVO registration numbers down nearly across the board, save T7 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241123155&postcount=8162 SFV is so bad that it's killing the whole genre. Instead of people flowing out into other games, they're abandoning fighting games entirely. MVCI being trash is only going to make the problem worse. Big fighting game tournaments either needs to find another games/series to rally around, most likely Smash/Melee, or risk becoming irrelevant/insolvent.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:52
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C. Everett Koop posted:Smash/Melee lol gently caress that ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Take my energy DBFZ ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Jun 19, 2017 21:56
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lmao the way to save fighting games is rally around melee
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Jun 19, 2017 22:09
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SFV is a turd yeah but it costs at least twice as much to stay at the Mandalay Bay vs the Westgate. I know that's why I'm probably not going, and it's the reason why most of my friends are opting out. I think entry fees are higher this year too?
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Jun 19, 2017 22:10
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C. Everett Koop posted:EVO registration numbers down nearly across the board, save T7 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241123155&postcount=8162 Still feels like a far cry from the early 2000s when I got into it. Things were so dire in the Capcom Fighting Jam era. I feel like SF4 really revived things but it's been nearly a decade now, maybe it's cyclical.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:19
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pretty sure the drop in entrants is just correcting the record-breaking numbers from last year due to SFV releasing plus we're still like a month out and we're comparing against 2016 final numbers
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Jun 19, 2017 22:24
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Only Ed Boon can save us now. May he have mercy.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:25
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dragon enthusiast posted:pretty sure the drop in entrants is just correcting the record-breaking numbers from last year due to SFV releasing Yeah it had to be a combination of SF5 being a new game as well as it being at the Mandalay Bay center or whatever.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:25
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The decline is amongst every fighting game listed but Tekken 7. I believe most tournies are down entrants YoY. Is this really just down to Street Fighter V?
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Jun 19, 2017 22:30
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DBZ being good can potentially be a very big deal in the FGC. DBZ as a franchise is very popular still so it suddenly having a legit good FGC game could be a huge shot in the arm.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:36
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C. Everett Koop posted:
when I said this would happen here on SA people said I should stop posting about games I don't play and that it was a ridiculous sentiment sad to prove them wrong
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Jun 19, 2017 22:36
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Zand posted:when I said this would happen here on SA people said I should stop posting about games I don't play and that it was a ridiculous sentiment Reminds me a year ago when I told people they shouldn't want another Marvel vs Capcom game, because Capcom would gently caress it up, but I just got yelled at. I too am sad that I am likely to prove them wrong.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:45
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Well, we're back to 2015 numbers probably. Kinda proves SFV didn't have enough lasting power to keep the community growing, really. As for the other games, I wonder if Smash/NRS having their own things now explains a dropoff in players or if it's just SFV + other games participants numbers being down overall.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:46
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Isn't registration still open until the 30th?
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Jun 19, 2017 22:50
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Zand posted:when I said this would happen here on SA people said I should stop posting about games I don't play and that it was a ridiculous sentiment
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Jun 19, 2017 22:50
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Elephunk posted:smashplayers.gif, basically that's me 10 seconds into a bayonetta session
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Jun 19, 2017 23:02
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Overcome your fear of IAD and BDC inputs and save your precious FGC, or join us in platform hell.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:24
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C. Everett Koop posted:EVO registration numbers down nearly across the board, save T7 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241123155&postcount=8162 What if the FGC hit its peak community numbers in 2016? We had to hit a ceiling at some point; communities grow and shrink.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:41
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SFV is a disappointment for sure but it isn't 'killing the whole genre' based on early EVO registration rates yeesh
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Jun 19, 2017 23:50
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punk rebel ecks posted:The decline is amongst every fighting game listed but Tekken 7. I believe most tournies are down entrants YoY. Is this really just down to Street Fighter V? Absolutely. My favorite fighting game would never fail on its own merits. Had to be something else. I remember those ten years that people stopped watching movies after that Joel Schumacher Batman movie. People went back to reading and radio dramas. This is the same story, I'm afraid.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:53
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I know a good number of people not attending evo this year due to it being more expensive...sf5 has its faults but it aint killin evo lol
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Jun 19, 2017 23:59
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I aint a mathematician but in an activity with niche appeal and relatively low cost to entry doubling the cost of hotel rooms might be a bad plan for attendance if that is truly what happened. Unironically, though, DBZ though is gonna be a massive draw.
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Jun 20, 2017 00:02
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punk rebel ecks posted:Reminds me a year ago when I told people they shouldn't want another Marvel vs Capcom game, because Capcom would gently caress it up, but I just got yelled at. But everyone is excited about DBFZ
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Jun 20, 2017 00:03
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Not surprised, or worried, that the numbers are on the decline. I mean of course they are, last year was so big because sf5 was brand spanking new and had that fresh new feel. Now add a year of mismanagement and bad will it hurts their attendance numbers quite a bit. A good number of those SF players play one game on the side and therefore the lack of them showing up hurts the other games as well. Next year we will see a big spike again with DBZ and Marvel's first appearances although not quite 2016 numbers more than likely but it'll still be a lot bigger than this year.
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Jun 20, 2017 00:06
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I'm sure EVO Japan also had an impact.
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Jun 20, 2017 00:11
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AkumaHokoru posted:I know a good number of people not attending evo this year due to it being more expensive...sf5 has its faults but it aint killin evo lol ok so, esports is killing evo what fg is the driving force behind esportsing the fgc again?
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Jun 20, 2017 00:12
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Zand posted:ok so, esports is killing evo actually this is like blaming a stabbing on a knife instead of the stabber (capcom is the stabber and sfv is the knife and I am the guy getting stabbed)
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Jun 20, 2017 01:34
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Jun 20, 2017 01:44
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Zand posted:actually this is like blaming a stabbing on a knife instead of the stabber (capcom is the stabber and sfv is the knife and I am the guy getting stabbed) That's the logic they follow in the UK.
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Jun 20, 2017 02:07
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dragon enthusiast posted:pretty sure the drop in entrants is just correcting the record-breaking numbers from last year due to SFV releasing People should really wait till the above is not the case before freaking out.
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Jun 20, 2017 02:52
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Dias posted:Since I know no one here bothered watching Smash 4: Fuckin fabulous. A.o.D. posted:That's the logic they follow in the UK. do you really have to out yourself as a moron on more subjects than just fighting games if we're likening a bad videogame to actual murder
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Jun 20, 2017 03:05
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C. Everett Koop posted:Big fighting game tournaments either needs to find another games/series to rally around, most likely Smash/Melee, or risk becoming irrelevant/insolvent. I would rather that the genre die out entirely than for Smash Bros competitive play become the standard. You're sick, Everett, you need help.
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Jun 20, 2017 03:39
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Here's 15/16/17 numbers for better comparison Main Street Fighter Game: 2227/5065/1955 Super Smash Bros. for Wii U: 1926/2637/1031 Super Smash Bros. Melee: 1869/2350/1002 Guilty Gear Xrd Rev2: 968/903/632 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: 816/770/450 NRS Fighter: 1162/707/560 Tekken 7: 458/543/560 Killer Instinct/KOF 14 Token Inclusion Game: 540/397/294 Total: 9966/13372/6484 They're not just down from last year, they're down significantly from two years ago, with Tekken being the sole exception and now that the game's finally out in the US I'd bet it'll be down in 2018 as well. 5k for SFV was unsustainable, sure, but it's the game at the top and the key reason as to why numbers are way down across the board. EVO's made some mistakes for sure; they've tried to wring too much money out of the consumer base and are going to take a bath this year. But EVO's mistakes are amplified exponentially by promoting SFV as their top game, which poisons the entire well. This year's a bust; there's no magic button they can push that'll make the numbers respectable even with a late registration push and I doubt that one's coming, and now the only thing left is to see how far the viewership numbers drop and how empty the arena is on Sunday. I don't think SFV's gonna be on ESPN this year! For 2018, EVO needs to pray that DBZ is a massive hit and can pull some 2-3k entries, meaning you can promote it at the top of the show, or swallow their pride and move Melee into the main event slot; their numbers are way down because they've been disrespected with the Saturday Top 8 and are staying home accordingly. They'll also need to downscale considerably but that goes without saying. My guess for 2018 numbers if SFV is at the top: SFV: 800 DBZ: unknown, but let's guestimate around 600-800 Smash Wii U: 250 Melee: 300, but that's dependent if they're still demoted to Saturday. MVCI: 150 IJ2: 400 T7: 200 Last game, ARMS or whatever: <100 Total: 2800-3000, at best. C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 05:50
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I hope melee is below 300
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Also your guesses are insanely whack lmfao
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Is Street Fighter V really bad enough to kill an entire genre of game? I don't play it myself but I watch the top 8s at whatever tournament is on and it seems entertaining enough
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