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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Human Grand Prix posted:

No it's awful. Anybody born between 1978-1989 is responsible for it. Truly the worst generation.

If you grew up in the 80's you'd be pretty hosed up in the head too. Everyone was terrified of sex and dungeons and dragons.

At least we killed off glam rock.

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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
The 80s kicked rear end. Glam rock owns.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Human Grand Prix posted:

The 80s kicked rear end. Glam rock owns.

The music of the 80s was worse, then got better. Worse than the 70s, but then better than the 90s.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
The cars of the 80s were fantastic.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

The worst I did was loud exhausts and cold air intakes. :fuckoff:

Motherfucker I STILL do loud exhausts and cold air intakes.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Stance is just the new rice recipe.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


sneakyfrog posted:

... I love me some hot hatchbacks, but with the type R even 10 year old me is like why the gently caress did they put all that poo poo on it?

QFT.
Why is it so hard to make a fast car without all the extra boy-racer cheese? Honda in particular seems to have a fetish for giant nonfunctional vents at the moment. Toyota's pretty bad with them, too, come to think of it.

InitialDave posted:

Yeah, I've seen this a lot from people in the US, and I really don't understand it. Why do manufacturers tolerate it? I get limited numbers of something being first come, first served (though I believe it's bad business not to make as many as you can sell), and I get people buying them and flipping them, or selling their "spot" in the waiting list, but an actual main dealer charging you thousands extra just because they think you'll pay it is ridiculous.

Because the many things noted previously, and apparently, due to how the contracts are written, the manufacturer basically has no say once the car is in the dealer's hands, despite every perception of a manufacturer being via the dealer. You'd think they would exert a little more control over what are effectively their representatives in the real world.

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Motherfucker I STILL do loud exhausts and cold air intakes.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Darchangel posted:

QFT.
Why is it so hard to make a fast car without all the extra boy-racer cheese? Honda in particular seems to have a fetish for giant nonfunctional vents at the moment. Toyota's pretty bad with them, too, come to think of it.
CTS-V Wagon, E55 / E63 AMG Wagon, M3 Sedan, etc.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

PCOS Bill posted:

Stance is just the new rice recipe.

Truth. Rice didn't go away, it just evolved.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


BlackMK4 posted:

CTS-V Wagon, E55 / E63 AMG Wagon, M3 Sedan, etc.

Oh, I agree. I didn't say there weren't any, just meant they seem to gently caress it up more often that not trying to appeal to the yutes or whatever demographic they think will pay for that... unfortunate design.
Plus, all of those above are quite a bit more expensive than the Type R (at least, without the "market adjustment")

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Rhyno posted:

Truth. Rice didn't go away, it just evolved.

Rice. Rice never changes.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Darchangel posted:

Rice. Rice never changes.

I've seen rice you people wouldn't believe.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I am going to laugh so hard if body kit companies start making kits for that Type R that tone down the look of it


e. and the only automotive rice-ery I engaged in was sound systems, because I didn't care for any of the kits available for my Grand Am and was too poor to afford much else, but scored a set of 12" subs and a little amp off a friend for cheap, so that was my thing. I miss that system, the 15 year old in me wants to replace the CX-5's very nicely balanced Bose system with something that would set off car alarms a mile away

Code Jockey fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 19, 2017

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Darchangel posted:

Rice. Rice never changes.

I used to get rice with my stir-fry. Now I get rice noodles. Car culture evolved the same way.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Remember how in the awesome thread, one of the teams in France over the weekend was using good ol' percussive maintenance to get their car started?

They got DQed, because of the hole they cut to get to the starter.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Rice can be had in many forms and styles, like many thing in life. I usually rate it from burned minute rice to fine jasmine rice or even a seafood paelle. I do have to say, I'm kinda enjoying the battlestance subgroup thing thats happening. Meatier tires flush with the fenders, functional aero bits, little to no camber. Its good.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Code Jockey posted:

I am going to laugh so hard if body kit companies start making kits for that Type R that tone down the look of it


e. and the only automotive rice-ery I engaged in was sound systems, because I didn't care for any of the kits available for my Grand Am and was too poor to afford much else, but scored a set of 12" subs and a little amp off a friend for cheap, so that was my thing. I miss that system, the 15 year old in me wants to replace the CX-5's very nicely balanced Bose system with something that would set off car alarms a mile away

You can always add subs, and a remote gain or even a power toggle to only engage them when appropriate. I have a single 10" in my Crown Vic, and it does an amazing job, but I'd like to add a second and turn them down a bit for daily use, but still be able to ripple sheetmetal when I feel the need. I haven't had a real system for a long while before this, because all my cars were hatchbacks, and I didn't want to sacrifice cargo space or have a visible box. Having a large sedan with ~*trunk space*~ is nice! I did also lean about standing waves because of it. Had to rebuild the box to fire to the rear rather than up, or it was disappointing.

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I do have to say, I'm kinda enjoying the battlestance subgroup thing thats happening. Meatier tires flush with the fenders, functional aero bits, little to no camber. Its good.

Oh, yes, please!

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

PCOS Bill posted:

Stance is just the new rice recipe.

Pissed myself laughing this afternoon, following a stanced Audi TT through town

Every speed hump, it had to crawl over at 5mph, while I was merrily doing 25mph in comfort.

I thought these things were supposed to make you faster, not slower.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

spog posted:

Pissed myself laughing this afternoon, following a stanced Audi TT through town

Every speed hump, it had to crawl over at 5mph, while I was merrily doing 25mph in comfort.

I thought these things were supposed to make you faster, not slower.

No, it only makes it seem faster. You have to make "vroom vroom" noises while you're driving to really get the effect.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

spog posted:

Pissed myself laughing this afternoon, following a stanced Audi TT through town

Every speed hump, it had to crawl over at 5mph, while I was merrily doing 25mph in comfort.

I thought these things were supposed to make you faster, not slower.
Good modifications make your car look good, or go fast.

Rice makes your car look fast.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Deteriorata posted:

No, it only makes it seem faster. You have to make "vroom vroom" noises while you're driving to really get the effect.

Nah, they just add a ridiculous fart can.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Terrible car stuff: a lowered Jetta wagon with a euro front plate, blackened out tail and headlights...

And had them off in the rain.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Darchangel posted:

still be able to ripple sheetmetal when I feel the need.

Cracks me up every time I pull up behind a lovely rattle-canned Kia whose trunk is visibly rattling and all I can hear is *bzzzzzzzzzt bbbbbbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*. I want to roll down the window and tell him his car's shaking itself apart

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

CommieGIR posted:

The cars of the 80s were fantastic.

My dream right now is to get anything with two doors, SOHC and turbo. Best combination..

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

iospace posted:

Remember how in the awesome thread, one of the teams in France over the weekend was using good ol' percussive maintenance to get their car started?

They got DQed, because of the hole they cut to get to the starter.

That's some loving buuuuulllllshiiiiiiiit right there.

GabbiLB
Jul 14, 2004

~toot~

iospace posted:

Terrible car stuff: a lowered Jetta wagon with a euro front plate, blackened out tail and headlights...

And had them off in the rain.

Thats like every Jetta around here, also need to add the roof racks full of stickers. I really don't get vw people.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

On one hand, it's lovely that they would disqualify the team for modifying the bodywork to get at an engine part when it didn't affect the aerodynamics.

On the other hand, the other teams were able to complete the race without cutting holes in their bodywork, either because they laid their systems out better for trackside repairs or had used more reliable starter solenoids, so why shouldn't they be rewarded for that? Achieving performance and reliability is the whole point of Le Mans.

Instead of cutting a hole in the panel to whack the solenoid, they should have replaced the solenoid outright and taken the penalty or time loss or whatever, and stayed within the rules.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Buhbuhj posted:

Thats like every Jetta around here, also need to add the roof racks full of stickers. I really don't get vw people.

It had a roof rack, natch. Don't recall seeing stickers.

Sagebrush posted:

On one hand, it's lovely that they would disqualify the team for modifying the bodywork to get at an engine part when it didn't affect the aerodynamics.

On the other hand, the other teams were able to complete the race without cutting holes in their bodywork, either because they laid their systems out better for trackside repairs or had used more reliable starter solenoids, so why shouldn't they be rewarded for that? Achieving performance and reliability is the whole point of Le Mans.

Instead of cutting a hole in the panel to whack the solenoid, they should have replaced the solenoid outright and taken the penalty or time loss or whatever, and stayed within the rules.

All the teams in that class used the same engine, so all used the same starter I believe.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

iospace posted:

Remember how in the awesome thread, one of the teams in France over the weekend was using good ol' percussive maintenance to get their car started?

They got DQed, because of the hole they cut to get to the starter.

Does that mean BOTH the Jackie Chan LMP2 cars had podium finishes? Boy that good-luck cloud livery is no joke.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

davebo posted:

Does that mean BOTH the Jackie Chan LMP2 cars had podium finishes? Boy that good-luck cloud livery is no joke.

Yep, 2nd and 3rd officially.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

iospace posted:

Terrible car stuff: a lowered Jetta wagon with a euro front plate, blackened out tail and headlights...

And had them off in the rain.

The new Jettas taillights are already half tinted from the factory. Not even joking about this.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin




:discourse:

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
This seems like the thread for this.

http://imgur.com/a/conzs

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMDCJ6vM5UM

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Motherfucker I STILL do loud exhausts and cold air intakes.

You can keep any exhaust that drones at highway speeds, and gently caress any intakes that just suck hot air from under the hood. Otherwise :hf:

Code Jockey posted:

e. and the only automotive rice-ery I engaged in was sound systems, because I didn't care for any of the kits available for my Grand Am and was too poor to afford much else, but scored a set of 12" subs and a little amp off a friend for cheap, so that was my thing. I miss that system, the 15 year old in me wants to replace the CX-5's very nicely balanced Bose system with something that would set off car alarms a mile away

I'm pushing 40. Still have a 12 in a ported box in my trunk with an "1100 watt" amp (probably more like 250 RMS.. it's a ~4-5 year old Crunch running 2 ohm bridged), and some reasonably decent speakers up front. It's not nearly loud enough, but it's enough to annoy someone that pulls up next to me blasting lovely music. It's also pretty good at setting off aftermarket car alarms, if I feel like being a dick.

I mean part of that is probably because I'm so loving deaf I can't hear anything outside of talk radio without all of the loud (I can't even carry a conversation on a phone anymore... I think the 2-5x/week concerts+raves in my teens and 20s, and weekly to monthly concerts through most of my 30s, may have caught up with me... just a guess though). On the other hand, I can crank it to 11 without feeling pain - I can almost make out the lyrics at 11 if I'm a foot away from the speakers.. people half a mile away that aren't deaf can probably make them out at 8.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jun 20, 2017

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

gently caress any intakes that just suck hot air from under the hood. Otherwise :hf:

So like all of them then? I have yet to find anything to show that an aftermarket CAI does anything but make noise.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
My Cobb system in my WRX uses the stock air funnel to draw cold air and has a sealed box around it. But surprise it costs more than non functioning garbage cone only intakes.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Keywords here are stock intake snorkel

I spent my youth in the 1990s buying 70s and 80s cars and doing my own dodgey CAIs. Then when I was older and started buying good cars from the 90s and 00s cheap, they already had a decent CAI because they often had intake snorkels and large air filter boxes.
IMO you don't need to worry about aftermarket CAIs unless dealing with 70s and 80s cars, or making your own ITB system, (or very badly designed cars without a snorkel and large air filter box).
But back in the day, manufacturers had hot air intakes (often routing the air over the exhaust) for colder europe/usa/japan and probably cared more about emissions (getting the air warm so less choke/cold engine program extra fuel use) than the fact they were just making hot air intakes for Australia that didn't need it.

Obviously since the 90s they have found a better way and mostly have cold air intakes regardless of the country.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Jun 20, 2017

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I have a warm air intake on my Abarth because it makes the psssh psssh sound loud enough for pedestrians to hear when I shift unnecessarily because it makes the psssh psssh sound loud enough for pedestrians to hear.

Psssh psssh

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eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
And rice is still alive. I just took this (gently caress you LA traffic)

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