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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed. |
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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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It's Christmas in June. gently caress Dan Gilbert. Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 11:08
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So was griffin good or are we just kneejerk reacting to something Gilbert did
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Jun 20, 2017 12:16
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Ramadu posted:So was griffin good or are we just kneejerk reacting to something Gilbert did Griffin seems to have been spontaneously fired in the middle of negotiating a major trade and LeBron is unhappy. That is to what we are reacting.
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Jun 20, 2017 12:20
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Ramadu posted:So was griffin good or are we just kneejerk reacting to something Gilbert did Ramadu posted:So was griffin good or are we just kneejerk reacting to something Gilbert did Lebron was in cle before and they didn't win poo poo
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Jun 20, 2017 12:50
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Ramadu posted:So was griffin good or are we just kneejerk reacting to something Gilbert did Lebron isn't happy so it's bad
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Jun 20, 2017 12:57
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I am embracing The Process. Cavs 19' pick is Top Ten protected to the Hawks. We own all our 1st's after that. Gotta tank real hard in 2019 and just play out the poo poo contracts of JR, TT and crew. We'll be back!
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Jun 20, 2017 12:58
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euphronius posted:Lebron was in cle before and they didn't win poo poo Yea but any gm is good when they have lebron but like he doesn't have any other assets
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Jun 20, 2017 13:25
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Ramadu posted:Yea but any gm is good when they have lebron but like he doesn't have any other assets To sum up why it's so funny, in case you didn't have time to read the good stuff before people started talking about cutting the cheese for 2 pages: - Gilbert let Griffin go without consulting Lebron https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/876964830510551040 https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/876973020866367488 - All signs point to Chauncey Billups becoming the new Gm https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/877011697323704320 https://twitter.com/NationCLE/status/876959962731335681
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Jun 20, 2017 13:38
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Also Griff was able to snag useful players that fit very well like J.R., Shump, Frye and Korver with basically no ammo
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Jun 20, 2017 13:43
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Cool Buff Man posted:To sum up why it's so funny, in case you didn't have time to read the good stuff before people started talking about cutting the cheese for 2 pages: Man I get that Kyrie and Love are lightyears ahead of anything he had the first time around but that is an ugly front office and coaching situation
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Jun 20, 2017 13:46
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Cavs eyeing PG and Butler, will probably end up with Rondo or Ellis
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Jun 20, 2017 14:08
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The fart jokes are extremely bad
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Jun 20, 2017 14:09
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The timing of the firing also plays into why it is so bad. The guy got fired three days before the draft for a reason that seems to have been stewing inside gilbert's colons for a while now. If he wanted him out so badly he should've done it a week earlier instead of kicking the pilot out of the airplane right before they are about to start descending
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Jun 20, 2017 14:12
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So outside the Brooklyn Nets disaster zone, Orlando is the worst situation in the league by far right? Elfrid Payton - maybe the 25th best pg in the league Evan Fournier - archetypal good stats, bad team scorer Terrence Ross - athletic 3&D, without the D (and only kinda the 3) Aaron Gordon - dunks Nikola Vucevic - could be a top-15 center... if it was 1994 Bismack Biyombo - the homeless man's Dikembe Mutombo ($51m for three more years) DJ Augustin - an NBA player making $7m Mario Hezonja - last seen on the side of a milk carton CJ Watson - they sure have a lot of replacement level point guards don't they? and a bunch of filler They don't even have much cap room (about $12m if they renounce everyone), because Fournier, Vucevic and Biyombo are all on fat contracts. This is the last year Gordon and Payton are on their rookie deals too, so they will need to decide about them next summer and keeping both of them would eat almost all their cap flexibility in the 2018 off-season. They badly need to hit on the 6th pick in this draft otherwise they have no-one worth mentioning at all and no room to sign anyone impactful this summer, and likely next summer too. Even if they take the blow it up route, what are they going to get? Fournier could be 4th/5th starter on a playoff team but his deal is $17m a year until 2021 so no-one is going to give up much of anything for him. tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 14:16
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His contract was over next week and they couldn't agree on a salary for the next contract plus ideological differences Seems like a normal timeline idk
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Jun 20, 2017 14:31
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Metapod posted:The fart jokes are extremely bad And with funny things actually happening in the league
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Jun 20, 2017 14:31
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Gilbert is a total idiot I mean i get that
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Jun 20, 2017 14:31
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Griffin was able to do and get whatever that team needed with little to no actual assets.
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Jun 20, 2017 14:36
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Not to take away from hilarious this is, but I would not pay much attention to any of the crazy poo poo someone says on NBA countdown, a show where people are payed to say crazy poo poo about basketball.
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Jun 20, 2017 14:54
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euphronius posted:His contract was over next week and they couldn't agree on a salary for the next contract plus ideological differences This is like the most important time of the year for a GM, they probably should have had something figured out awhile ago.
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Jun 20, 2017 14:56
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Dexo posted:Griffin was able to do and get whatever that team needed with little to no actual assets. Well he had Wiggins but after that it was kind of miraculous.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:03
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MourningView posted:This is like the most important time of the year for a GM, they probably should have had something figured out awhile ago. I'm sure Gilbert has been choosing the color of font for a while now.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:03
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It's not uncommon for teams to have front office turnover in June since contracts end 6/30 . It probably should be in august but  Gilbert is a idiot and cutting off his nose to spite his face tho I get that .
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Jun 20, 2017 15:08
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tanglewood1420 posted:So outside the Brooklyn Nets disaster zone, Orlando is the worst situation in the league by far right? This team just seems like a lighter version of the Pistons. They needed several of their picks to turn into stars and none of them have. Vanilla Mint Ice posted:The timing of the firing also plays into why it is so bad. The guy got fired three days before the draft for a reason that seems to have been stewing inside gilbert's colons for a while now. If he wanted him out so badly he should've done it a week earlier instead of kicking the pilot out of the airplane right before they are about to start descending The coach and management of Cleveland has always just been figureheads to Lebron right? I mean like what do either of those jobs actually entail other than keeping Lebron happy and orchestrating what he wants? They need a 4th superstar to compete with the Warriors and they don't have the assets or cap to get one so they are probably doomed. I don't see how that's Cleveland's GM's fault though, unless he's expected to fleece other people to keep his job.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:08
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Fox Sports has an article about things that could derail a Warriors Dynasty. #2 behind injury, is "all the good assistant coaches leave" http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/golden-state-warriors-nba-dynasty-offseason-062017 I know coaching and support staff are important, but I can't think of any great NBA teams that fell apart because of a lack of assistant coaches, both because it seems like there is a pretty big pool of them out there, and because a championship team is going to be a draw for good staff, even if some of them leave.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:10
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David griffin was very good at the technical things of the salary cap, maximizing trade exceptions that both gained very good role players while saving the cavs money. He was a really, really good gm for that team.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:14
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Lebron might be the one walking into the office going Ｇｅｔ ｍｅ ｋｙｌｅ ｋｏｒｖｅｒ and the guy whose office it belonged to did the obeying but the 29 other teams in the league do not humor every little whim and desire that comes out of lebron. You still need someone with the title to get on the phone and do all the wooing and figure out all the math and paperworks. And firing someone who listened to lebron doesn't seem like a good move to appease lebron. Billups might end up doing the same and defer to lebron so the last point might not matter as much but who knows if billups would be as good in figuring out how to actually make lebron's wishes come true.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:20
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:Billups might end up doing the same and defer to lebron so the last point might not matter as much but who knows if billups would be as good in figuring out how to actually make lebron's wishes come true. I'm guessing Billups' sole priority is going to be helping Gilbert avoid luxury / repeater tax and to cut off Lebron's influence in the front office. If they wanted someone willing to defer to Lebron, why not keep Griffin?
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Jun 20, 2017 15:33
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glowing-fish posted:Fox Sports has an article about things that could derail a Warriors Dynasty. #2 behind injury, is "all the good assistant coaches leave" The Pels' defense was noticeably worse after Mike Malone left. It would have been bad regardless because of personnel changes, but it was worse than it should have been.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:35
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Plus Dan Gilbert didn't let him interview for the Buck job but just let him go when it's too late.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:36
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Anals of History posted:I'm guessing Billups' sole priority is going to be helping Gilbert avoid luxury / repeater tax and to cut off Lebron's influence in the front office. If they wanted someone willing to defer to Lebron, why not keep Griffin? Yeah that's what logic points to which makes it bad for cleveland fans and humorous for everyone else. instead of 3-1 it's going to be a whole year of reporters asking after every bad cav lose going hey lebron are you going to re sign???
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Jun 20, 2017 15:39
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http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/sources-out-of-cleveland-say-jimmy-butler-will-push-for-trade-to-cavs/ Jimmy Butler's mouthpiece in Chicago speaks. Jimmy Cowley posted:Jimmy Butler Cleveland-bound picked up even more momentum on Tuesday.
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Jun 20, 2017 15:42
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Please don't do this Suns https://twitter.com/dustinfox37/status/877151037811032064
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Jun 20, 2017 15:59
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Please don't do this Suns Do this Suns! Do this Cavs!
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Jun 20, 2017 16:01
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Don't do it Suns. Trade love for melo billups
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Jun 20, 2017 16:05
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Cavs would get more than Butler for Kyrie right? He is on a longer contract and younger to help them rebuild. At least one garbage salary going there way would make me OK with it I guess.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:07
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https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/877180741230243840 Do this Knicks! Do it!
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Jun 20, 2017 16:07
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/877180741230243840 Oh shiiiiiittt! Pritchard send over PG and a pick for him! Everyone loves NYC! Edit: Boom! http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8jo3333 I love having nothing to do at work.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:07
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Fake news since everyone knew phil was willing to trade kp months ago. Keep the real stories moving
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Jun 20, 2017 16:08
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someone tell me a way the cavs get jimmy buckets and the zinger, i'd love to see those dudes next to lebron
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