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jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
Meanwhile in Estonia...

The corruption case against the former mayor of Tallinn (also the former leader of the center party) is going absolutely great. His health is just as bad as they need it to be to delay the hearing. "His blood pressure was over the norm today, better call the ambulance and postpone the trial". He only needs not take his medications and that's a "get out of court for free" pass for the day. The trial has now been postponed until 8th of August.

On the first day of the court he was attended by various minions and rear end kissers, who have been losing their former positions. Funny.

Meanwhile his party is losing some support because they are trying to pander to both Estonians and Russians at the same time, but even without that they are doing a poo poo job, as is the whole government coalition. They created a new gaping hole in the budget and are now trying to fix it in any way possible, mostly by introducing new taxes.

I can't wait until next party popularity polls are out.

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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/RobPulseNews/status/874930450917142529

VoltairePunk
Dec 26, 2012

I have become Umlaut, destroyer of words

This is fantastic!

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

hahahaha

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





:ussr:

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
Glorious.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

How the gently caress do you link twitter videos and not have it be twitter? Like a direct link to the video?

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type

Baronjutter posted:

How the gently caress do you link twitter videos and not have it be twitter? Like a direct link to the video?

By searching for it on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU7ePd4kPAs


edit: so Navalny was arrested before the demonstrations started and he got sentenced to a month in prison only a few days later. We in western countries can only admire the efficiency of the Russian judiciary.

Trogdos! fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jun 14, 2017

hitchensgoespop
Oct 22, 2008

Sweet AF. Delicious almost.

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

Our facade prime minister has (unwittingly?) paraphrased the fourteen words and related them to refugee crisis during yesterday's commemoration of deportation of Polish prisoners to Auschwitz. :poland: :godwin:

Anne Frank Funk fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 15, 2017

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead




fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Putin's annual hotline is wild this year

https://twitter.com/NoahSneider/status/875288625533116416

https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/875310696090791936

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





Tfw your shitpost is shown to the entire country.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/875376315637084160

And he was never seen again...

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Jeeeeesuuuuusss kid, brutal

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I love how Putin just reflexively deflects any legit question by hinting that obviously the kid is some sort of agent. No one can be upset about corruption in russia without there being a foreign agent behind them feeding them these traitorous questions. And the saddest thing is that it works. This kid is going to be labeled unpatriotic, why does he hate russia, how much did they pay him to try to embarrass Putin like that? Do you think there isnt corruption in the west?? What about the iraq war! US are war criminals! Ukraine Junta!

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
No kidding. I remember reading an interview with a guy from a drug harm-reduction NGO in Moscow that got officially labeled as a foreign agent because drug addiction isn't a Russian problem. They were forced to label all their stuff to make it clear they were a foreign agent - so they stuck a picture of a cartoon spy in a fedora on their packages.

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Baronjutter posted:

I love how Putin just reflexively deflects any legit question by hinting that obviously the kid is some sort of agent. No one can be upset about corruption in russia without there being a foreign agent behind them feeding them these traitorous questions. And the saddest thing is that it works. This kid is going to be labeled unpatriotic, why does he hate russia, how much did they pay him to try to embarrass Putin like that? Do you think there isnt corruption in the west?? What about the iraq war! US are war criminals! Ukraine Junta!

Ah, that type of rhetoric should be familiar to most Eastern Europeans. In Serbia we even have a joke about it which is a callback to 90s state propaganda, calling somebody a "Foreign Mercenary and Domestic Traitor"

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

RIP

Fabulous Knight
Nov 11, 2011

Baronjutter posted:

I love how Putin just reflexively deflects any legit question by hinting that obviously the kid is some sort of agent. No one can be upset about corruption in russia without there being a foreign agent behind them feeding them these traitorous questions. And the saddest thing is that it works. This kid is going to be labeled unpatriotic, why does he hate russia, how much did they pay him to try to embarrass Putin like that? Do you think there isnt corruption in the west?? What about the iraq war! US are war criminals! Ukraine Junta!

And the kid is not even criticizing Russia itself, nor is he implying that the USA, Europe etc. are somehow better, he's just suggesting maybe Putin is being harmful in some ways. How dare he try to destabilize the internal political situation! Putin often yaps on about how criticism is perfectly allowed as long as it's "legal" and "constructive", well I don't know how much more non-threatening than that it can really get.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Fabulous Knight posted:

And the kid is not even criticizing Russia itself, nor is he implying that the USA, Europe etc. are somehow better, he's just suggesting maybe Putin is being harmful in some ways. How dare he try to destabilize the internal political situation! Putin often yaps on about how criticism is perfectly allowed as long as it's "legal" and "constructive", well I don't know how much more non-threatening than that it can really get.

Whataboutism is a hell of a drug basically, Russia pretty much invented it / coined the term no?

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Had it coined about them yeah

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

SaltyJesus posted:

Ah, that type of rhetoric should be familiar to most Eastern Europeans. In Serbia we even have a joke about it which is a callback to 90s state propaganda, calling somebody a "Foreign Mercenary and Domestic Traitor"

Isn't this type of rhetoric a characteristic of basically every dictator ever? Any time a citizen gets uppity or someone speaks out against the beloved leader he must be a western agent! It's on like page 1 of the dictator handbook.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Charliegrs posted:

Isn't this type of rhetoric a characteristic of basically every dictator ever? Any time a citizen gets uppity or someone speaks out against the beloved leader he must be a western agent! It's on like page 1 of the dictator handbook.

that's incredibly hosed up to me,

Fabulous Knight
Nov 11, 2011

Charliegrs posted:

Isn't this type of rhetoric a characteristic of basically every dictator ever? Any time a citizen gets uppity or someone speaks out against the beloved leader he must be a western agent! It's on like page 1 of the dictator handbook.

Yes, and in addition these days the traitors can also be funded by the (((globalists))) or Soros. But that's mostly on the internet.

Today I love how Putin called Trump "supreme commander". Wonder if he called Obama that once during his eight years. Maybe it's just the same thing as commander-in-chief.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/877152860089323522

Turns out Putin got caught out by some fake news, the version of the video he shared had fake audio dubbed to make it sound Russian
https://medium.com/dfrlab/putin-falls-for-fake-news-9d4e50fc1865

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
And it's the least loathsome thing about the interview.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

I was hoping it was from Arma

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

Its sad what a horrible dupe Oliver Stone is.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Russians are proud purveyors of fake news, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Glad it was sooner.

King Superman
Nov 14, 2016

Scaramouche posted:

I was hoping it was from Arma

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/730701444823826432

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

No word on Kazakhstan yet.

https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/877281123730169856

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
Poland's environment minister claims the Bialowieza Forest - a huge stretch of primeval forest on the border of Poland and Belarus as well as home to the largest concentration of European Bison - has been made (in 2014) a UNESCO World Heritage Site illegally. He added that the matter has already been reported to the state prosecution office. Meanwhile, parts of the forest are being cut down, supposedly to combat a bark beetle infestation, while dead trees, necessary to sustain natural processes, are being removed, despite protests of the European Commission and environmentalist groups.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Tevery Best posted:

Poland's environment minister claims the Bialowieza Forest - a huge stretch of primeval forest on the border of Poland and Belarus as well as home to the largest concentration of European Bison - has been made (in 2014) a UNESCO World Heritage Site illegally. He added that the matter has already been reported to the state prosecution office. Meanwhile, parts of the forest are being cut down, supposedly to combat a bark beetle infestation, while dead trees, necessary to sustain natural processes, are being removed, despite protests of the European Commission and environmentalist groups.

:catstare: Every time I think your medieval government can't go any further into.the stupid, I swear.

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend

cinci zoo sniper posted:

:catstare: Every time I think your medieval government can't go any further into.the stupid, I swear.

have I told you about how they want to set up a power market system that would promote investment into new coal plants

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Tevery Best posted:

have I told you about how they want to set up a power market system that would promote investment into new coal plants
:wtc:

VoltairePunk
Dec 26, 2012

I have become Umlaut, destroyer of words

Tevery Best posted:

have I told you about how they want to set up a power market system that would promote investment into new coal plants

When's the next election in Poland again? Any prospects that the situation might change then?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Karmalis posted:

When's the next election in Poland again? Any prospects that the situation might change then?
Polish people might be extinct by then.

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend

coal cures cancer


Karmalis posted:

When's the next election in Poland again? Any prospects that the situation might change then?

Late 2019, unless the government successfully sweeps away the last remnants of the old republic by then. And even so I would not expect a fair election.

And even if someone else wins, the only way to stop that craziness would be to resurrect Margaret Thatcher and let us borrow her for a couple years.

Coal mining unions in Poland are very powerful and effective, and the government sucking up to them is one of the main driving forces of this War on Non-Coal we have here (trust me, Trump's love for coal has nothing on this place). Our energy system is still like 90% coal-fired, while the mines are digging ever deeper for ever less profitable output that is actually too bad to be used in power plants. The system is set up to essentially force power plants to buy lovely, worthless, and overpriced coal from the mines, then store it in huge dumps because they don't want to have anything to do with it. Every couple of years the most bankrupt mines are passed from one government-owned entity to another in an intricate dance of financial speculation to water down their debts and avoid either shutting them down or running afoul of EU law. Essentially the entire country pays for the coal industry to continue generating more and more cost, and if you don't want to play ball, you run afoul of the miners. If you try to renege on your promises or something unexpected happens and forces you to tackle the problem, you run afoul of the miners. And you don't want to do that.

Not because they won't vote for you. That will be the least of your problems. Angry miners coming to Warsaw is a scenario any government wants to avoid, because they will gently caress poo poo up. Burning tyres, ripping the pavement off to throw it at the police, always being a step away from a riot. That kind of thing.

And I understand where they're coming from. Being a miner is a hard job that's wildly detrimental for your health, but it pays reasonably well, you get a number of benefits, like better and earlier OAP, and there's not much that could compare in the way of jobs in the region. So the miners are sending their kids to become miners. And they don't want their kids to be unemployed, do they? And they don't trust the government to provide them with any other options, because last time they tried it the whole thing ended up being a bunch of handouts that somehow did not result in a thriving and booming economy of small enterprises. Therefore, if a government starts offering a plan to replace mining with something else, they piss off the miners.

The miners have their backs to the wall and are willing to gently caress everything up for everybody else if it sustains coal mining as a profession. No government knows or wants to offer a long-term solution, so regardless of the election outcome, this will not change all that much.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Polish people might be extinct by then.

Polish health resort towns have five times as much harmful benzopyrene in the air as London.

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VoltairePunk
Dec 26, 2012

I have become Umlaut, destroyer of words
Jesus Christ. The one thing that gave Poland independence from socialism might completely destroy its economy in the end.

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