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loquacius posted:My theory is that Freddie DeBoer wants to be Peter from Ender's Game Wasn't he the one who basically saved the universe by anonymous blogging? I haven't read any Card in like 20 years but that's how I remember it.
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docbeard posted:Wasn't he the one who basically saved the universe by anonymous blogging? yeah he took over the world via livejournal or some poo poo
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Jun 20, 2017 19:29
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it was USENET u rubes
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Jun 20, 2017 19:30
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SKULL.GIF posted:racism is rooted in "gently caress you, get away from my poo poo" tribal aggression and resource/territory competition anglo-saxon ersatz-monarchy is writing itself out of existence in favor of german-chinese corporatist pragmatism and I love it 
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Jun 20, 2017 19:31
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:mostly because until they installed a tankie as mod there were no mods that disagreed with him which is pretty telling about the state of D&D tbf he'd been banned like ten times or something like that, the tankie was just the first one to realize it wasn't having any effect SKULL.GIF posted:deboer isn't even remotely a demagogue fine then, Valentine from Ender's Game, I can never keep track which of them did which blog docbeard posted:Wasn't he the one who basically saved the universe by anonymous blogging? The main kid's siblings blogged anonymously as The Populist Firebrand and The Reasonable Wise Man With All The Right Takes until eventually one of them was elected president of Earth
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Jun 20, 2017 19:31
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docbeard posted:The 2020 Democratic Primary: Literally Every Democrat Is Running (Except Hillary) *narrator voice* She's running.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:35
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zegermans posted:Holder was pretty awesome at defending encroachments on civil rights, but I think civil rights is now called identity politics and bad It's a subtle distinction, but identity politics just mimic's and eventually undermines Civil Rights, like the Cuckoo bird does with other birds.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:36
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holder is pretty much obama 2 in the problems are bad but their causes are very good lightyears better than trump of course
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Jun 20, 2017 19:38
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zegermans posted:So it's coming down to the wire have we decided of Ossoff winning is good or bad yet? Ossoff winning is bad, but Ossoff losing is even worse.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:38
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:It's a subtle distinction, but identity politics just mimic's and eventually undermines civil rights, like the Cuckoo bird. the effort since the reagan years to coopt civil rights rhetoric and conveniently rub out and erase the egalitarian and pro-labor aspect of it, letting the liberals that "matter" (rich) fall for it hook line and sinker when they were previously pro-labor is pretty hilarious
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Jun 20, 2017 19:38
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lol if holder runs everyone is going to slam him for letting the banks off the hook and it will be glorious
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol if holder runs everyone is going to slam him for letting the banks off the hook and it will be glorious yeah, obama got away with it by being the most charismatic politician since jfk but that wont work for holder of course the usual suspects will say criticizing holder for being cozy with banks is racist just like critizing hillary for it was sexist
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Jun 20, 2017 19:40
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deadgoon posted:it was USENET u rubes The best sci-fi take on USENET was in A Fire Upon The Deep, especially the really confused alien who thought that everything that was going on could be explained and made perfect sense if you just understood that humans had six legs.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:43
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lmao i had no idea that orson scott card had done the "self-insert genius writer saves the universe because he's so smart" way before m night shyamalan, what a hack
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Jun 20, 2017 19:48
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Shear Modulus posted:lmao i had no idea that orson scott card had done the "self-insert genius writer saves the universe because he's so smart" way before m night shyamalan, what a hack Ender's Game owned for so many reasons, just skip the epilogue.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:50
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Ender's Game owned for so many reasons. lol wrong
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Jun 20, 2017 19:50
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And no reason to read any of the other books either.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:51
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peter didn't save the universe, he was just a ruthless genius-level sociopath
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Jun 20, 2017 19:51
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Concerned Citizen posted:peter didn't save the universe, he was just a ruthless genius-level sociopath they said the same about bernie sanders
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Concerned Citizen posted:peter didn't save the universe, he was just a ruthless genius-level sociopath 
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Jun 20, 2017 19:53
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This is how @byyourlogic becomes president.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:57
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its sad that so many kids apparently fall into right-wing nutjobs like card or stephenson as their gateway scifi authors instead of the zillions of better authors with better politics like vonnegut or le guin
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Jun 20, 2017 19:57
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Shear Modulus posted:its sad that so many kids apparently fall into card or stephenson as their gateway scifi authors instead of the zillions of better authors with better politics like vonnegut or le guin
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Jun 20, 2017 19:58
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he said "genius"
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Jun 20, 2017 19:58
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you'd think at this point in stephenson's career he'd learn how to write an ending
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Jun 20, 2017 19:58
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The Tankie Mod is a good mod and a good poster, imo
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Shear Modulus posted:its sad that so many kids apparently fall into card or stephenson as their gateway scifi authors instead of the zillions of better authors with better politics like vonnegut or le guin asimov curated short story collections
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Shear Modulus posted:its sad that so many kids apparently fall into right-wing nutjobs like card or stephenson as their gateway scifi authors instead of the zillions of better authors with better politics like vonnegut or le guin my intro into sci-fi was Asimov's The Last Question back when i was 14. It was a pretty great starting point as it lead me to look for other mind expanding works instead of the usual milli-scifi trash that a lot of people get lost in.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:mostly because the latter two tell things kids don't want to hear "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" was one of the earliest scifi works of substance I read and it left me super loving disgusted.
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Jun 20, 2017 20:05
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ender's game is neither as bad nor as good as people like to claim, most folks miss the point ender himself isn't the self-insert smartest 5th grader in the world type character that a lot of critics claim he is, in the larger context of ender's game really existing as a prequel for speaker of the dead, where he founds a religion that ends up demonizing him and wanders the galaxy trying to make up for being literally hitler unfortunately card is a pretty lovely writer and the speaker books end up a bizarre mishmash of sci fi, catholic fundamentalism, and mormon metaphysics so anything interesting about the premise of boy hitler becoming an itinerant monk is lost pretty quickly
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Jun 20, 2017 20:09
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docbeard posted:The best sci-fi take on USENET was in A Fire Upon The Deep, especially the really confused alien who thought that everything that was going on could be explained and made perfect sense if you just understood that humans had six legs. hexapodia is the key insight
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Jun 20, 2017 20:14
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Al! posted:they said the same about bernie sanders and that's why he would have won!!!
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Jun 20, 2017 20:15
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Shear Modulus posted:lmao i had no idea that orson scott card had done the "self-insert genius writer saves the universe because he's so smart" way before m night shyamalan, what a hack Peter wasn't a self-insert either, he's the most straightforward villain figure most of the book has I dunno, Ender's Game discussions on the Internet are tricky because everyone always goes way too hard against it in really reductive ways that don't hold up to scrutiny but yeah it's also not a good enough book for me to spend much effort on defending it as a grown adult It was fine for something to read when you're 12 
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Were they even bloggers? I haven't read those books since I was like 15 but I thought Card just had Ender's siblings rise to prominence via their insightful posts in the comments sections of websites.
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Jun 20, 2017 20:18
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:mostly because until they installed a tankie as mod there were no mods that disagreed with him which is pretty telling about the state of D&D If nothing else tankies get it done.
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Thoguh posted:Were they even bloggers? I haven't read those books since I was like 15 but I thought Card just had Ender's siblings rise to prominence via their insightful posts in the comments sections of websites. they were shitposters in D&D and then op-ed writers under their shitposting account names so imagine the nyt digging up fishmech and handing him a column
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Jazerus posted:ender's game is neither as bad nor as good as people like to claim, most folks miss the point Actually it was cool to be a 12 year-old reading about a 12-year old who was doing cool space-stuff and saving the earth by genociding an entire species (which was the surprise of the ending).
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Actually it was cool to be a 12 year-old reading about a 12-year old who was doing cool space-stuff and saving the earth by genociding an entire species (which was the surprise of the ending). ya agreed
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