Mr Fronts posted:

I like the idea of having Derek feed all his blogs through something that converts bulk text into numbered 140char chunks and automatically tweets them.


Replying to @dsmart
(3505) Most of the noise about this impending train wreck, has mostly come from smaller media, who, even though we all know each other, have more

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(3506) at stake in terms of being honest, and forthcoming, than those who just want to exist in the status quo and hope it blows over. However,

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(3507) once my article hit, and set practically every single gaming community ablaze about the state and fate of Star Citizen, it opened dialog in all


Then archive it all on r/ds.

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And what better way to wrap up the week with a new ship?! We are incredibly excited to unveil the Concept Sale for the Xi’An Nox! It joins the Dragonfly as a sleek and nimble bike built for high speeds. Having one (or several) in your fleet will definitely give your style points!

Colostomy Bag posted:

I like this line from this weeks commlink...

Colostomy Bag posted:

I like this line from this weeks commlink...

Dementropy posted:

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3.0 will contain a large amount of New, exciting, and fresh content

Dementropy posted:

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Hello there, Reddit and lurking CIG eyes. I'm PoisonTaco and I have a bone to pick with the current trend in how the game is pushed and presented.

The recent pushes for subscriber numbers and the referral program are rubbing me the wrong way. As someone who helps run a modest organization, I talk to and interact with people new to Star Citizen all the time. They keep coming in, just getting into the game, all excited. Usually they get help in buying a ship, they are super pumped to play the game and then they realize the area round Crusader runs like crap. Then somebody has to explain to them why the PU is laggy. Someone has to explain why it's difficult to get into the game with a large group. Someone has to explain that all these things will be fixed in wonder patch 3.0.

The problem is lots of people are being brought into this game, they're uninformed and sold something that looks like it could be complete when it really isn't. They come in, check it out and quickly burn out. It's not particularly fair on these new players and it's doubly not fair for communities and groups of players who have to hold their hand the whole way.

CIG why are you pushing backers to bring in more and more players now when you lack any form of New Player Experience

This is the biggest one. No tutorial, no singleplayer, no 100% functioning multiplayer. If a brand new person were to look at Star Citizen, buy in now and had no friends or anyone in the game to help them they would be completely lost. What's worse is that players are now encouraged with rewards and a new contest to try and upsell the game as much as possible. Usually in these cases, players will omit all the flaws and incomplete features.

If Squadron 42 was out and we were in 3.X I think the community would find this a lot more palatable. CIG you already have the backers. The people you have now are the people who believe in the dream of a badass space simulator. The people you're trying to go after want a game right now. Not a game in one, two or even three more years. They want something to play now or even reasonably soon.

TL;DR

* I believe CIG is trying to market the game like any MMO post-release rather than a game still in development.
* The new referral program is only going to bring in lots of new players into Star Citizen when it lacks any New Player Experience.
* I also believe the community would be more receptive to such a contest if Star Citizen had more to deliver right now than a 3.0 schedule. Get Squadron 42 out and get us to 3.X and that would be a better sweet spot.
* CIG you need to stop getting the community to do the recruiting and marketing for you. We already put in a lot of time explaining everything to new players. We already defend the game in other subreddits, other forum posts and whatever. You need to get the game to a point where it can stand on its own, stop pushing the community to make the excuses in your stead.

Anyways, I went on a bit of a rant. Though it's best to be constructive about these things. I do hope at least some of this feedback makes it through.

Edit: RIP Inbox. Does anyone know if it comes with LTI?

Dementropy posted:

MedicineHut posted:

I think Cersei is going to give the goon troll away.

vyst posted:

Ma'am I'm a professional tickle pirate

Mirificus posted:

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/Darjanator/status/877122999673126912

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Would've made the Tower of Babel stuff a lot funnier. Derek, why haven't you coded a bot to auto-post all your tweets to r/ds? Then start tweeting about how your day is going, what kind of burger is the best burger, are hotdogs sandwiches, etc.

Dementropy posted:

Septic Tank Gulag posted:

Take a look at this, the third most upvoted post in r/starcitizen over the past year, and gilded x4: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/66qrlc/cig_your_marketing_is_too_far_ahead_of_itself/

My emphasis in bold:
This person has described in detail everything scammy about Star Citizen, yet is somehow still a Star Citizen. Everyone on the subreddit read that post, and nearly all of them upvoted it, yet they are still citizens. Baffling.

D_Smart posted:

I considered doing it at one point. But then I realized that they would just ban the bot; thus it ended up being a waste of time. Besides, those rear end-clowns are doing just fine cluttering their hate-Red with rubbish that just shows how hosed up they are.

Lladre posted:

Who the gently caress let Samzidata back in the thread.

TheAgent posted:

3.0 will save CIG and this thread

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My friends won't touch the game despite my attempts to lure them in.
They aren't backers, they are hardcore gamers but fairly interested space game fans who've played EVE, Elite Dangerous, Sins, Stellaris etc, but they won't touch this game yet.
The biggest reason none of them will back this project was put quite well by one of them "I will give it a go when there is actually a game to play."
Their marketing needs to stay focused on the backers, because the common gamer just isn't interested in this project yet.

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yet

Taintrunner posted:

What if RSI runs out of game developers (coders) to trick into working on Star Citizen?

Taintrunner posted:

What if RSI runs out of game developers (coders) to trick into working on Star Citizen?

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* CIG you need to stop getting the community to do the recruiting and marketing for you. We already put in a lot of time explaining everything to new players. We already defend the game in other subreddits, other forum posts and whatever. You need to get the game to a point where it can stand on its own, stop pushing the community to make the excuses in your stead.

hot balls man no homo posted:

They already did, but there are plenty of artists and marketers looking for work.

Septic Tank Gulag posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/66qrlc/cig_your_marketing_is_too_far_ahead_of_itself/dgkm848/

We lowly common gamers simply don't understand noble Star Citizen in all her majesty.

It's like, my god, they're so close to getting it, but they just refuse to hear what's coming out of their own mouths. wtf

also

lol

Space Crabs posted:

I feel like these guys should spend their time being thankful that so many idiots are willing to pay for promises and lies, not try and figure out why normal people prefer tangible goods.