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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Weaker in the sense that less jobs can use it? Because I thought Brave Blade was more powerful than Chicken Knife. You cannot ever run if you want a full-power Brave Blade. Ever. And most people will have run enough times that a full-power Chicken Knife would be an improvement. More than that, the Chicken Knife benefits from both Strength and Agility, which means it can potentially be even more powerful than the Ragnarok.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:06 |
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Weaker in the sense that less jobs can use it? Because I thought Brave Blade was more powerful than Chicken Knife. also you need knight or freelancer to equip brave blade, whereas chicken knife can be used by everything but monk or white mage
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:08 |
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Aerdan posted:You cannot ever run if you want a full-power Brave Blade. Ever. And most people will have run enough times that a full-power Chicken Knife would be an improvement. Aerdan posted:More than that, the Chicken Knife benefits from both Strength and Agility, which means it can potentially be even more powerful than the Ragnarok. fits posted:also you need knight or freelancer to equip brave blade, whereas chicken knife can be used by everything but monk or white mage Olive Garden tonight! posted:Weaker in the sense that less jobs can use it
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:23 |
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Speaking of chicken knife, I saw mention on the doc about being able to use it on a ninja with their off hand? But when I gave my ninja the dancing dagger on either hand, it would still trigger the dancing dagger script and not use the other weapon.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:27 |
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Rirse posted:Speaking of chicken knife, I saw mention on the doc about being able to use it on a ninja with their off hand? But when I gave my ninja the dancing dagger on either hand, it would still trigger the dancing dagger script and not use the other weapon. Use the double lance in your main hand. It hits twice and only your first 2 hits can proc anything. It's also the second best weapon the ninja can use unless you're fighting Shinryu.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:41 |
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dis astranagant posted:Use the double lance in your main hand. It hits twice and only your first 2 hits can proc anything. It's also the second best weapon the ninja can use unless you're fighting Shinryu. Oh when do you get that? I am halfway into Exdeath's Castle, so I am about to hit world 3.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:46 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Pulled it off by the skin of my teeth! (I have no idea why the screen caps are so tiny) VBA's screencaps are tiny by default and I don't know if there's any way to change that. I just run mine through the batch image resizer in Irfanview.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 04:54 |
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:Can you elaborate more on this? I don't know enough about the mechanics to know when this would apply. From the algorithms FAQ, here is the base damage equation for physical attacks: code:
The Brave Blade uses the normal M equation for physical weapons, as shown: code:
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Let's take a Placeholder Knight at Level 40 with 45 Strength and 20 Agility. Calculations helpfully taken from the discord bot. code:
Brave Blade: (150 - 15) * 16 = ~2160 per attack Chicken Knife: (127 - 15) * 22 = ~2464 per attack This is usually offset by the fact that Knights have access to Doublehand (which, when equipped and in use, doubles a weapon's M) and the fact the Chicken Knife has a 25% !Flee proc. However, if you can bypass that, a Chicken Knife will outdamage a Brave Blade pretty consistently despite the Brave Blade being numerically superior. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:03 |
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Journey of the Quadzerker: Part II Bought some jewelry to keep me warm... Thinned the herd... Ready to try... Next time: Probably steamrolling to W2 Exdeath
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:27 |
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So can I ask what the best strategy for a quadzerker setup against Ifrit and Byblos would be? My Wind job was Chemist so until I get that Earth crystal I'm looking at some tough times. Currently the entire party is level 25.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:32 |
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Are we out of Basch donations? If not, here's one more:
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:33 |
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GMArcturus posted:So can I ask what the best strategy for a quadzerker setup against Ifrit and Byblos would be? My Wind job was Chemist so until I get that Earth crystal I'm looking at some tough times. Currently the entire party is level 25. Step 1: Grind. Step 2: Pray. Ifrit and Byblos suck, but you're gonna need to be in your low to mid 40s to push your way past Sandworm either way, so rev up those axes.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:34 |
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Rirse posted:Oh when do you get that? I am halfway into Exdeath's Castle, so I am about to hit world 3. There's one in meatcastle, the room with the pit puzzle that drops you in the big lava room when you gently caress it up. Otherwise you steal them from statues. Only ninjas and thieves can use them. You can also buy them in phantom village but why wait? dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:38 |
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GMArcturus posted:So can I ask what the best strategy for a quadzerker setup against Ifrit and Byblos would be? My Wind job was Chemist so until I get that Earth crystal I'm looking at some tough times. If you can beat Liquid Flame they should both be pretty easy. Get the Main Gauche and Elven Mantle from the Karnak Castle Fun Run and give everyone else Mythril Hammers. Ifrit is no biggie and you just have to hope Byblos doesn't put Protect up too early and then Drain you to death.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:39 |
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GMArcturus posted:So can I ask what the best strategy for a quadzerker setup against Ifrit and Byblos would be? My Wind job was Chemist so until I get that Earth crystal I'm looking at some tough times. Currently the entire party is level 25. level to mid 40s cause youll have to beat up sandworm and soul cannon with quadzerk anyway then get chemist and promptly steamroll the rest of the game, more or less
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:43 |
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So I'm guessing hitting level 27 and savestating in front of Byblos would be optimal strategy. Savestating in case he does put Protect early and start the "Drain Game". I plan on doing my huge grind to 40 with the Mini Dragons. I can fight them before Sandworm, right?
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:43 |
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GMArcturus posted:So I'm guessing hitting level 27 and savestating in front of Byblos would be optimal strategy. Savestating in case he does put Protect early and start the "Drain Game". I plan on doing my huge grind to 40 with the Mini Dragons. I can fight them before Sandworm, right? Absolutely. I think I managed to do Byblos at 26? Obviously luck is a big part of it. Had to go to 43 for the worm though.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:54 |
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oldskool posted:Are we out of Basch donations? If not, here's one more: You're the one who pushed it to the 20th Basch, + the 1 fellow who did the Run and I wanted to include
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 05:59 |
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Another run down, another full-powered Brave Blade.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 07:03 |
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dis astranagant posted:There's one in meatcastle, the room with the pit puzzle that drops you in the big lava room when you gently caress it up. Otherwise you steal them from statues. Only ninjas and thieves can use them. You can also buy them in phantom village but why wait? Oh goodie, because where I am saved at is right before that room.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 08:01 |
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Rudicron posted:Very well. Exdeath Status: Punched. Edit: Let's try again and see if the host stopped making GBS threads itself. https://my.mixtape.moe/gfwjnb.webm plot.lost fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Jun 21, 2017 |
# ? Jun 21, 2017 08:55 |
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Run 1 down. Get hosed, Ned.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 09:09 |
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Whoever had the idea for the mini tactic against the Crystals, I salute you. It is so dumb, yet I suspect it saved me a LOT of pain trying to get the RNG to align. Or trying to finagle my lone Black Mage around the Berserkers' damage rolls. Bonus: And my #krile roll replaces one Berserker with...Blue Mage! It's time to go on a little trip 'round the world, learn things I missed...run's about to become a lot smoother. I like it.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 09:58 |
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Gameplay!
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:24 |
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Star Platinum posted:
At least your freelancer can equip anything.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:37 |
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Was thinking about Rugwizard with Quadzerkers. Will he cast Return on a missed physical attack on GBA?
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 13:11 |
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fffffffffuuuuuuckkkk
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 13:14 |
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That took ages, I could only do 100 damage a pop and every two hits I has to swap out for the healing staff to heal a bit.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:24 |
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I'm kinda dreading the 'worm myself - I've currently got 'zerker and Time Mage unlocked and just took down Byblos. Samurai was my Fire and Bard's my Earth, so I might have to KO the 'zerks and go Rod crazy since my targeted offense is so terrible with just two Times.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:43 |
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Oh can you single target rod breaks? That would have saved me some time.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:49 |
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Golden Goat posted:Oh can you single target rod breaks? Nah, I mis-spoke - what I meant to say was controllable, ie that I can use one rod then heal rather than have them triggered out of my control.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:04 |
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Two rods kills the Sandworm, you'll be fine. Who cares if you get hit by 2 gravities, he's dead. Don't even need to kill the Zerkers.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:15 |
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Do rods scale off the user at all? I broke rods on one attempt and they did 500 damage.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:16 |
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Golden Goat posted:Do rods scale off the user at all?
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:18 |
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You're right, sorry, mixed up my bosses. Haste, Slow, Healing Staff and even Regen help a lot though. Gah I was even mixing up rod snapping with Water Scrolls. I need caffeine.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:20 |
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First class: Dragoon. Second class: Bard. It's a good thing Freelancer is decent early on. I can even break rods at Liquid Flame to save time!
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:07 |
A Thief and 3 Berserkers, done. Basch lives on.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:14 |
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Prism posted:First class: Dragoon. Second class: Bard. Pray to God you pull a current job from the Fire Crystal and that you don't have to bring 4 Bards to Adamantoise and Archaeoaevis. Get the Main Gauche.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:42 |
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derra posted:Pray to God you pull a current job from the Fire Crystal and that you don't have to bring 4 Bards to Adamantoise and Archaeoaevis. Get the Main Gauche. I always get the Main Gauche, since so many classes can use it. I also got the mantle and the ribbon just in case, since I had time. The #fire job ended up being Time Mage so I don't have to worry about anything.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:46 |
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A Butt has cleared his journey with the help of his friends.
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# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:48 |