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COME BACK!! FIGHT TOGETHER!! (at each other)
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Venom Snake posted:Dems gunna run a far left joke candidate as a sacrifice in 2020 and said joke will end up winning ala Corbyn. It is so. Dennis Kucinich going to be the best president.
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Jun 21, 2017 06:50
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At this point the idea of a piss tape is so normalized I think it's going to lose all of its punch, and all the CHUDs will get way into water sports.
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Jun 21, 2017 06:50
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i heer you jeet
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Jun 21, 2017 06:51
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tom perez strengths + sweating + swearing tom perez weaknesses - looks kind of weird - nobody likes him
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Jun 21, 2017 06:52
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:mods, could we change the thread title to "SUK ZONE: it's time for gulags?" FTFY.
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Jun 21, 2017 06:59
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Shear Modulus posted:tom perez strengths Tom Perez looks like he's suffering from a chronic parasite, which is appropriate because he's sucking all the life out of the loving party.
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Jun 21, 2017 07:02
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Uhh excuse me, Joe Manchin disagrees.
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Jun 21, 2017 07:07
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Vox Nihili posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/6ihf3d/jon_ossoff_campaign_intern_here_to_answer/ https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/6ihf3d/jon_ossoff_campaign_intern_here_to_answer/dj6u0ff/ quote:1) Why did Jon lose? Answer: I don't know. Why did we lose? I duno! What can we do better? We did Bernie stuff and lost, but we learned what we did wrong to lose! *but I still don't know why we lost how could that happen???? 
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Jun 21, 2017 07:29
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am I being a kook if I start to suspect at this point the Democrats are just using and will keep using these overfunded loser centrists to launder money for themselves as they see their party dying and need to cash out while they still can?
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Jun 21, 2017 07:31
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I mean, it feels like grifting from the perennial loser party through consultants and poo poo is an inherent party of opposition politics in hard blue/hard red states so I'm not sure we can really blame the dems specifically rather than the system as a whole. But of course the party of the people should kind of be held to a higher standard so roast away.
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Jun 21, 2017 07:36
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Robotnik Nudes posted:am I being a kook if I start to suspect at this point the Democrats are just using and will keep using these overfunded loser centrists to launder money for themselves as they see their party dying and need to cash out while they still can? especially since they made goldman sachs people superdelegates 
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Jun 21, 2017 07:39
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Lastgirl posted:COME BACK!! Homeless Friend posted:
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Jun 21, 2017 07:40
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[/quote] chairmans cummies
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Jun 21, 2017 07:41
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i'm the incredibly serious lanyards who analyzes What Doesn't Work, and, furthermore, What Does Work instead of going "what will be best for the people we represent? how can we improve lives for people?"
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Jun 21, 2017 07:43
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I'm going to guess that with the exception of GA, all of those Dem candidates were progressives?
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Jun 21, 2017 07:50
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm going to guess that with the exception of GA, all of those Dem candidates were progressives? you know the answer to that one already
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Jun 21, 2017 07:56
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm going to guess that with the exception of GA, all of those Dem candidates were progressives? No, the South Carolina guy was literally an ex-Goldman Sachs person. The main things they all shared were 1) getting little or no support from the DNC and 2) not being Dem machine (vat-raised) candidates. If the Dems had spread their money out to all of the races there's a good chance they would have won at least one, IMO. Instead they gave 99% to golden fuccboi ossoff. Vox Nihili has issued a correction as of 08:44 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Jun 21, 2017 08:41
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ThndrShk2k posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/6ihf3d/jon_ossoff_campaign_intern_here_to_answer/dj6u0ff/ he's just some intern
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Jun 21, 2017 08:43
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Nanomashoes posted:You're supposed to put yard signs in your yard you imbecile. You loving moron. This is why Quist lost. i can't, it's against the law in mt to keep your signs up after the election
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Jun 21, 2017 08:44
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Vox Nihili posted:If the Dems had spread their money out to all of the races there's a good chance they would have won at least one, IMO. the only one that was close enough for dccc to be decisive was parnell, and i am pretty certain the only reason it was close is that no one was paying attention to it given the insanely low turnout. they still would have lost all of them.
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Jun 21, 2017 08:48
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I just got around to reaching Archie Parnell's campaign site, and yeah, the Goldman Sachs guy is actually more progressive than fuccboi ossoff his #1 campaign issue is raising taxes on multinational corporations, for example he also says stuff like this "Archie will stand up to the unfair lending practices that can turn a $50 loan into thousands of dollars of debt and bankruptcy, a system that particularly affects the men and women of the armed services and their families, and will fight against criminals in the banking industry who undermine our financial system in the pursuit of trillion-dollar profits." lol.
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Jun 21, 2017 08:48
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Concerned Citizen posted:the only one that was close enough for dccc to be decisive was parnell, and i am pretty certain the only reason it was close is that no one was paying attention to it given the insanely low turnout. they still would have lost all of them. putting all your eggs in one basket is an immensely stupid strategy regardless of how things ultimately shook out--looking at the fundamentals the georgia district was only slightly more competitive than the south carolina race. not sure how they missed/ignored that
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Jun 21, 2017 08:49
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Vox Nihili posted:putting all your eggs in one basket is an immensely stupid strategy regardless of how things ultimately shook out--looking at the fundamentals the georgia district was only slightly more competitive than the south carolina race. not sure how they missed/ignored that well remember, the dccc wasn't excited about competing in any of the special elections in the first place. they got involved with ossoff after the netroots started raising insane amounts of money from him, and they got polling showing it was competitive. there was an enormous amount of grassroots energy around ossoff and the dccc decided to take advantage of that. it still took like a month for dccc to decide they wanted to get into ga-06, though. without sitting on partisanship data from each district it's hard to say how competitive sc-05 really was vs. ga-06, obviously dnc has a lot more granular data for trying to sort that out that i just don't have (certainly more accurate than PVI). but i do think the dccc really over-invested in the race - at some point you hit diminishing returns on your spending. that doesn't mean that money should have gone to the other specials, given the enormous fundraising burden facing the party for the midterms ossoff might have cost us funding for one or two additional red-to-blue targets.
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Jun 21, 2017 09:00
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probably the best candidate you can argue deserved extra dccc funding was quist, given that he had a pretty strong fundraising machine himself (raised $6m, mostly in small dollar donations) and had a plausible path to victory. but quist had a ton of tax problems, his campaign was a trainwreck, the candidate himself was just not very bright (which is why he somehow managed to lose all the newspaper endorsements including the loving missoulian), and frankly he seemed more interested in having a lot of rallies to sell his CDs at than actually winning. combine that with some not-so-hot polling and it's not hard to see why they didn't really want to go in.
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Jun 21, 2017 09:09
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Concerned Citizen posted:well remember, the dccc wasn't excited about competing in any of the special elections in the first place. they got involved with ossoff after the netroots started raising insane amounts of money from him, and they got polling showing it was competitive. there was an enormous amount of grassroots energy around ossoff and the dccc decided to take advantage of that. it still took like a month for dccc to decide they wanted to get into ga-06, though. The DCCC doesn't know how to win. It hasn't won in nine loving years. Just close it down.
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Jun 21, 2017 09:12
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Crowsbeak posted:The DCCC doesn't know how to win. It hasn't won in nine loving years. Just close it down. it just needs new leadership, and i volunteer
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Jun 21, 2017 09:13
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Subcomandante Marcos should run the DCCC.
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Jun 21, 2017 09:25
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i cant believe there is a neoliberal reddit
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Jun 21, 2017 09:31
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no poll or consulting agency on earth would have predicted the republicans were going to win jack poo poo by running trump. sometimes, sometimes, the public wants to be told what needs to be done, because they don't actually know poo poo. they want leaders, who can say "the problem is x, the solution is y, and im going to do z". instead they're delivered some feckless troglodyte who blinks cautiously at the sun and loud noises while repeating whatever talking points some half baked analytics outfit derived from reading cracks in tortoise shells
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Jun 21, 2017 09:36
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did u know: the dnc analytics team predicted hillary could lose michigan all the way back in june of 2016, but the clinton team ignored it in favor of their rosier predictions
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Jun 21, 2017 09:48
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clinton failed to do a lot of things
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Jun 21, 2017 09:53
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Concerned Citizen posted:did u know: the dnc analytics team predicted hillary could lose michigan all the way back in june of 2016, but the clinton team ignored it in favor of their rosier predictions Has this story made the news? What's your source?
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Jun 21, 2017 10:04
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Robotnik Nudes posted:am I being a kook if I start to suspect at this point the Democrats are just using and will keep using these overfunded loser centrists to launder money for themselves as they see their party dying and need to cash out while they still can? This is exactly what's happening. The consultants get paid no matter what.
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Jun 21, 2017 10:06
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Ditch the college stuff and focus on single-payer healthcare. Working class people already know how to get free college. Come on, democrats.
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Jun 21, 2017 10:06
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jBrereton posted:Ditch the college stuff and focus on single-payer healthcare. Working class people already know how to get free college. Come on, democrats. what?
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Jun 21, 2017 10:07
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G 👏 I 👏 Bill
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Jun 21, 2017 10:08
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jBrereton posted:G 👏 I 👏 Bill lol service guarantees education
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Vox Nihili posted:Has this story made the news? What's your source? after clinton's whole "slam the dnc for being useless" thing happened, one of the dnc people got angry on twitter and tweeted out a whole bunch of stuff like: 
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