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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Vox Nihili posted:

lol

service guarantees education
Whether you think it's good or not, it exists, and it provides free college to people that have done what many americans, esp the poor ones, think is a Good Thing, so finding a way to market Free College in a way that doesn't sound like "free college for people who haven't done anything for me, at my expense" is the challenge.

Or you sidestep that and do single payer instead, which is much more important and popular!

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

jBrereton posted:

Whether you think it's good or not, it exists, and it provides free college to people that have done what many americans, esp the poor ones, think is a Good Thing, so finding a way to market Free College in a way that doesn't sound like "free college for people who haven't done anything for me, at my expense" is the challenge.

Or you sidestep that and do single payer instead, which is much more important and popular!

no reason you have to pick one or the other. our public colleges are almost as broken as our medical system and strategically dems absolutely need to find something to motivate young voters.

the fact that some tiny percentage of people are able to get college subsidies by joining the armed forces really has little to do with the larger education scheme

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
can't wait to die for trump's Raytheon profits in the hopes of getting free college (lol)

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Concerned Citizen posted:

after clinton's whole "slam the dnc for being useless" thing happened, one of the dnc people got angry on twitter and tweeted out a whole bunch of stuff like:



yeah i saw those, i guess "predicted she would lose michigan" sounds a lot more exciting than that particular tweet

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Robotnik Nudes posted:

am I being a kook if I start to suspect at this point the Democrats are just using and will keep using these overfunded loser centrists to launder money for themselves as they see their party dying and need to cash out while they still can?

That's exactly what is happening

"Oh no, I lost another race but got all this data and paid myself with donor money, guess I actually didn't do so bad"

white sauce has issued a correction as of 10:59 on Jun 21, 2017

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

jBrereton posted:

Whether you think it's good or not, it exists, and it provides free college to people that have done what many americans, esp the poor ones, think is a Good Thing, so finding a way to market Free College in a way that doesn't sound like "free college for people who haven't done anything for me, at my expense" is the challenge.

Or you sidestep that and do single payer instead, which is much more important and popular!

Hey as someone who actually uses he GI Bill-

Go fuckyourself

Free public school, college, tech schools and apprenticeships for everyone.

Stop 👏 being 👏 milquetoast 👏

Start 👏 having 👏 big 👏 ideas 👏

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Stop using clap emojis.

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
stop not sucking my dick

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

docbeard posted:

Stop using clap emojis.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

docbeard posted:

Stop using clap emojis.

now 👏 there's 👏 a 👏 bold 👏 position

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

got any sevens posted:

now there's a bold position

Not bold, just correct.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

I hate clap emojis like Concerned Citizen hates yard signs.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i wonder why dems were convinced that the candidate who had the worst performance of anyone in these special elections would be the winner? maybe it has something to do with him being a dem party insider and the dem party only helping you if you're rich and well-off enough for them to have rubbed elbows with you at some point.

also, :laffo: that hillary fans are now blaming bernie for this loss for his "poison endorsement" after they screamed and demanded he endorse ossoff (and destroyed another candidates' chances just to try to force him to). they're children

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


also lol at cc saying that the other special election candidates outperformed ossoff cause they weren't helped by the DCCC. if you think the dems are so toxic that we have to try to pretend dem candidates aren't dems, maybe the dem party just shouldn't exist anymore

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Ossoff should go back to working for the guy who thinks Guam might capsize imo

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


I wish the "pragmatic" centrists would show a little pragmatism sometime and back and support people not because of nepotism but rather for their ability to appeal to voters.

instead they choose to throw record breaking sums at terrible candidates and let all other candidates fail

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Backing Ossoff was entirely about pragmatism. If the candidate has no ideology then you don't have to worry about any of that messy politics stuff.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

the democratic party is supposed to lose to republicans and if they didn't they would lose their funding

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/Ken_Spain/status/877359028799549442

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Lmao empty suit republican gets BTFO by crazy reactionary who said on live tv she didn't support a living wage

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/877358264798904320

tfw the takes...

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Too bad said empty suit had nothing to oppose that statement

Hmmmm what idea do we come up with in opposition to no living wage....hmmmmm

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/BCAppelbaum/status/877492025326784513

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Condiv posted:

I wish the "pragmatic" centrists would show a little pragmatism sometime and back and support people not because of nepotism but rather for their ability to appeal to voters.

instead they choose to throw record breaking sums at terrible candidates and let all other candidates fail

"Pragmatic" is a dog whistle. When you hear it you should think "doesn't affect the donor class in a negative way."

They NEVER say that word in any other context.

Significant Ant
Jun 14, 2017

by R. Guyovich

ya the explanation is that they suck

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Phi230 posted:

Too bad said empty suit had nothing to oppose that statement

Hmmmm what idea do we come up with in opposition to no living wage....hmmmmm

undead wage where your reanimated corpse works in the mines until your life debts are paid off

Serf
May 5, 2011


jarofpiss posted:

undead wage where your reanimated corpse works in the mines until your life debts are paid off

this was literally the plot of an d&d adventure i ran once

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Serf posted:

this was literally the plot of an d&d adventure i ran once

That sounds hilarious

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

jarofpiss posted:

undead wage where your reanimated corpse works in the mines until your life debts are paid off

All accounting is done by the local Savings & Bone

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
The Democratic party is incredibly pragmatic once you realize their goals don't include winning elections or enacting legislation that improves the material conditions of most people.

If the democrats were actually pragmatic they'd start vocally playing the part of Vince McMahon and start being a corporate villain that local dems could play against.

"those egg heads in Washington have a study that suggests we should be appealing to moderate Republicans, but here's what we think of their study!" and then you wipe your rear end with it in a town hall.

Dems need to be cutting more promos

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Bushiz posted:

The Democratic party is incredibly pragmatic once you realize their goals don't include winning elections or enacting legislation that improves the material conditions of most people.

If the democrats were actually pragmatic they'd start vocally playing the part of Vince McMahon and start being a corporate villain that local dems could play against.

"those egg heads in Washington have a study that suggests we should be appealing to moderate Republicans, but here's what we think of their study!" and then you wipe your rear end with it in a town hall.

Dems need to be cutting more promos

What does this poll say?

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT SAYS

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

https://twitter.com/MorningEdition/status/877138618531315713

Serf
May 5, 2011


Lawman 0 posted:

That sounds hilarious

it ended with the players fomenting glorious worker's revolution as the living miners got tired of watched the broken bodies of their former friends take their jobs in the mines

this was before my socialist days too lol

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Marcon won why not ossoff

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Uncle Wemus posted:

Marcon won why not ossoff

ossoff's opponent wasn't fascist enough. we need to encourage fascism in the republican party if we want to win again!! :hurr:

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Bushiz posted:

The Democratic party is incredibly pragmatic once you realize their goals don't include winning elections or enacting legislation that improves the material conditions of most people.

If the democrats were actually pragmatic they'd start vocally playing the part of Vince McMahon and start being a corporate villain that local dems could play against.

"those egg heads in Washington have a study that suggests we should be appealing to moderate Republicans, but here's what we think of their study!" and then you wipe your rear end with it in a town hall.

Dems need to be cutting more promos

The first democrat to suplex a republican at a debate is going to get a $50 campaign contribution from me.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006


To be fair, the closest thing to Ossoff winning Net Gingrich/Tom Price's old seat would be for a Republican to win John Lewis' seat after he retires and I can't imagine that happening even if we did elect a gay space communist to be president.

Serf
May 5, 2011


The Nastier Nate posted:

The first democrat to suplex a republican at a debate is going to get a $50 campaign contribution from me.

dems: hmm... no. we'll take the high road and not put up any meaningful ideological opposition to capitalism in exchange for six figgies from goldman sachs

Anta
Mar 5, 2007

What a nice day for a gassing

Condiv posted:

ossoff's opponent wasn't fascist enough. we need to encourage fascism in the republican party if we want to win again!! :hurr:

The Hillary Gambit

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i'll give ossoff one thing. he hasn't started blaming everyone and everything for his loss yet, which makes him a better politician than dear abuela. i mean, his supporters definitely are, but he hasn't

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