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Roast ChuckSolice Kirsk posted:Well done. Ha!
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Ernie is executor. Better Call Saul Season 4: You Cannot Besto Ernesto
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Jun 21, 2017 15:45
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Are we sure Chuck is dead? I think he should be dead- the character has reached his logical conclusion and it's going to be really hard to have him survive in a way that doesn't feel cheap logically or emotionally. That said, years of tv training have taught me that if we don't see someone 100% dead, they're 100% alive, and the writers are still playing coy in interviews.
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Jun 21, 2017 15:59
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Vince Gilligan said something weird in the podcast about Chuck. He said (paraphrasing) "Now that Chuck is dead, or Chuck might be dead, we can leave that in." Sounds like he was saying matter of factly that Chuck is dead but then tried to walk it back to being ambiguous.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:02
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Melisandre will bring him back with no consequences. They will then go on to conquer Hamlin & Hamlin with a starving divided thoroughly routed army of lawyers who've been fighting and dying to legal battles for years. The baseball card guy will inexplicably crown himself king of the New Mexican cartels and they will be fine with it. And Mike will drive the 20 minutes it takes to get to Germany from the North American southwest to get revenge on some guy from Breaking Bad season 1.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:06
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I really want Pryce to be some high level dude in Gus' organization.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:10
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CHUCK IS loving DEAD
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Jun 21, 2017 16:17
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Veshpo posted:Are we sure Chuck is dead? I think he should be dead- the character has reached his logical conclusion and it's going to be really hard to have him survive in a way that doesn't feel cheap logically or emotionally. That said, years of tv training have taught me that if we don't see someone 100% dead, they're 100% alive, and the writers are still playing coy in interviews. https://twitter.com/MJMcKean/status/877228383838642177
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Jun 21, 2017 16:17
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misdirection, classic vince
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Jun 21, 2017 16:20
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Chucks hosed, baby. Chucks hosed.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:22
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How did he tweet with Mike's voice
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Jun 21, 2017 16:23
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We didn't see Gail die so he's alive
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Jun 21, 2017 16:37
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Cojawfee posted:Vince Gilligan said something weird in the podcast about Chuck. He said (paraphrasing) "Now that Chuck is dead, or Chuck might be dead, we can leave that in." Sounds like he was saying matter of factly that Chuck is dead but then tried to walk it back to being ambiguous. From other interviews it seems like Vince's position is that Chuck is 99% certainly dead (because come on), but they still reserve the right to do anything they want that doesn't explicitly contradict what is shown or said onscreen. So yeah, Chuck's dead. Unless for some extraordinary and supremely unlikely reason they decide he isn't.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:39
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https://twitter.com/MJMcKean/status/833350083886379008 Sounds like he's gone for good. If we're lucky, a cold open flashback or two.
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Jun 21, 2017 16:44
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Awesome season. I hope the ratings were better than last year.
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Bobby Digital posted:How did he tweet with Mike's voice 
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Jun 21, 2017 16:47
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In retrospect showing the insurance person convo as the final scene of that episode a few back makes way more sense now. Jimmy won in court and Chuck could have lived but Jimmy had to twist the knife. Way more powerful looking back
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Jun 21, 2017 16:58
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nerox posted:I am not sure on Arizona law, but For gently caress's sake
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That DICK! posted:In retrospect showing the insurance person convo as the final scene of that episode a few back makes way more sense now. Jimmy won in court and Chuck could have lived but Jimmy had to twist the knife. Way more powerful looking back Also I'm glad Nacho survived. That gun scene buildup was tense as gently caress and it seemed for all the world that he had been caught by the other goons, or that he'd actually sprung a trap that Hector had planned, but fortunately things played out the way they did. Michael Mando is knocking it out of the park.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:08
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Chuck entrusted the 8 million dollars from the HHM buyout to his trusted university colleague Gustavo Fring, which he used to purchase the infrastructure for an 8 million dollar supermeth lab in a laundry mat.
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That DICK! posted:In retrospect showing the insurance person convo as the final scene of that episode a few back makes way more sense now. Jimmy won in court and Chuck could have lived but Jimmy had to twist the knife. Way more powerful looking back
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Jun 21, 2017 17:13
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That DICK! posted:In retrospect showing the insurance person convo as the final scene of that episode a few back makes way more sense now. Jimmy won in court and Chuck could have lived but Jimmy had to twist the knife. Way more powerful looking back One way I think Howard could come back into the story next season: Howard feels guilty because he sees his actions regarding the insurance snafu as being what drove Chuck to suicide. Howard confides in Jimmy about this, perhaps at Chuck's funeral, which is how Jimmy finds out that him screwing over Chuck at the end of "Expenses" is what triggered that chain of events.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:15
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Hey I haven't caught up with the thread but how many people have said "The switch in Jimmy's office turns on Chuck's power meter" if none: sout posted:The switch in Jimmy's office turns on Chuck's power meter
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Jun 21, 2017 17:17
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They need to jump past BB and make the show about Gene and his arc of redemption. Maybe season 5? I don't think they can keep threading water like that, the ratings are really bad. Season 4 needs to be done with Jimmy. Most major plot threads are wrapped up now. It's the perfect moment to reorient the show.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:18
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Spellman posted:Chuck entrusted the 8 million dollars from the HHM buyout to his trusted university colleague Gustavo Fring, which he used to purchase the infrastructure for an 8 million dollar supermeth lab in a laundry mat. No no no, he left everything to the Institute for EHS Research, a nonprofit initiative started by Madrigal Electromotiv.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:19
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I don't need a redemption arc for Gene. I just need a phone call with Kim 
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Jun 21, 2017 17:19
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Kim is Skylar, mark my words
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Jun 21, 2017 17:21
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That DICK! posted:In retrospect showing the insurance person convo as the final scene of that episode a few back makes way more sense now. Jimmy won in court and Chuck could have lived but Jimmy had to twist the knife. Way more powerful looking back I think you'll find the ultimate fault lies with the man who, rather than check himself into a mental institution ala Healey from OITNB, instead chooses to set himself on fire.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:23
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:They need to jump past BB and make the show about Gene and his arc of redemption. Maybe season 5? I don't think they can keep threading water like that, the ratings are really bad. Season 4 needs to be done with Jimmy. We still need to find out why Jimmy gets rid of his cocobolo desk and replaces it with Kim's when he moves into his strip mall location. We can't move on until we know this. maskenfreiheit posted:I think you'll find the ultimate fault lies with the man who, rather than check himself into a mental institution ala Healey from OITNB, instead chooses to set himself on fire. I don't think suicidal people can really be held accountable for their suicidal actions. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's fault either, of course.
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maskenfreiheit posted:I think you'll find the ultimate fault lies with the man who, rather than check himself into a mental institution ala Healey from OITNB, instead chooses to set himself on fire. I can't tell if this post is a parody or not but just in case, if you've ever had someone close commit suicide you're not going to be able to write it out of your brain by assigning "ultimate fault" to some else lol
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Jun 21, 2017 17:26
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I still don't know how I feel about that because I feel like the show's telling me that that doesn't happen without Jimmy, but at the same time, wasn't that going to eventually happen anyway, and really, shouldn't it have? Also keep in mind that Jimmy did actually break in and change the numbers to make him look incompetent, and then dragged him through mud during the hearing. Chuck, despite being a dick, was spot on about Jimmy.
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That DICK! posted:I can't tell if this post is a parody or not but just in case, if you've ever had someone close commit suicide you're not going to be able to write it out of your brain by assigning "ultimate fault" to some else lol The ultimate fault lies with Jimmy who was an enabler for Chuck's delusions all those years. If he had just made him go to a psychiatrist or demonstrated to him conclusively that his lepton allergy is psychosomatic, Chuck wouldn't have lost three years of his life. Jimmy sucks. Same goes for Howard who also enabled him. Cnut the Great posted:We still need to find out why Jimmy gets rid of his cocobolo desk and replaces it with Kim's when he moves into his strip mall location. We can't move on until we know this. It departed. Just let the mystery be, little sweet pea
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Jun 21, 2017 17:34
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:The ultimate fault lies with Jimmy who was an enabler for Chuck's delusions all those years. If he had just made him go to a psychiatrist or demonstrated to him conclusively that his lepton allergy is psychosomatic, Chuck wouldn't have lost three years of his life. Jimmy sucks. Same goes for Howard who also enabled him. Of course Jimmy's intentions were pure, as usual. He didn't want Chuck to suffer in a mental institution. He thought it was better for him to be at home and comfortable. Ironically, it's only when his intentions are less than pure that he ends up doing the right thing by Chuck by refusing to humor in his delusion, spurring him to seek mental treatment.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:40
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Kim is Skylar, mark my words I've been saying for years that Kim is Skyler and Marie's estranged half-sister
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Jun 21, 2017 17:45
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Chuck is Skyler "Oh nooo Jimmy. Jimmy, you have to stop. You have to stop this. It's immoral. It's illegal. Someone might get hurt!" Always whining and complaining
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Jun 21, 2017 17:52
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whats weird about this episode to me is that the end of season 1 had jimmy saying, explicitly, "if i have a million bucks in front of me again, i'm not giving it up this time" he just gave up a million because some old ladies were being catty. he's a pathological do-gooder
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Jun 21, 2017 17:56
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Kim is Skylar, mark my words a huge raging/whiny bitch?
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Kim is Skylar, mark my words
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Sagebrush posted:For gently caress's sake Sorry New Mexico, had a brain fart while typing that 
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nerox posted:One thing Better Call Saul has been really good about is legal proceedings Looking back it's pretty impressive that a show all about lawyers practicing law managed to go two and a half seasons before its first actual courtroom scene.
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