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My dream is that youtube will eventually just reject uploading your video if like 2/3 of your title is ALL CAPS and the rest is !?!?!?!?!?
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Yardbomb posted:My dream is that youtube will eventually just reject uploading your video if like 2/3 of your title is ALL CAPS and the rest is !?!?!?!?!? Also if it's shot vertically.
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Jun 21, 2017 23:56
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I felt this episode of the Whole Plate may have been a bit weaker even if just for the fact that by nature of talking about broad genres we didn't get much transformers analysis, just a kind of 101 of genre theory through transformer- oh...
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Jun 21, 2017 23:59
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Terrible Opinions posted:If I recall correctly it was less that they were supposed to be given moral depth and more that it was supposed to be shown why normalish people would tolerate them further east. We are lacking the banal evil part of Caesar's Legion and only got the active evil part of it. Still what I really appreciate of New Vegas was its ability to get so many quality b-movie/TV Show actors/actresses compared to Fallout 3 just putting the whole VA budget in Liam Neeson.
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Jun 22, 2017 03:38
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Fallout 3 didn't even get a whole lot out of Neeson, either. Like, maybe 25 lines of dialogue and then his character dies off. Meanwhile, New Vegas gets a bunch of dialogue out of Felicia Day, Wayne Newton, Danny Trejo, Dave Foley, Mike Foley, Matthew Perry, etc. A lot of it great, too.
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Jun 22, 2017 04:38
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Has getting an A-List actor in to do voice work ever actually worked in the game's favor? In anything I can think of off the top of my head, they have too little presence for their talent to have any impact on the game (Oblivion, Fallout 3), or actively harm the game by clearly just phoning in the lines without any care or enthusiasm.
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Jun 22, 2017 04:53
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New Butt Order posted:Has getting an A-List actor in to do voice work ever actually worked in the game's favor? In anything I can think of off the top of my head, they have too little presence for their talent to have any impact on the game (Oblivion, Fallout 3), or actively harm the game by clearly just phoning in the lines without any care or enthusiasm. Brutal Legend seemed to get some pretty decent work out of Jack Black.
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Jun 22, 2017 04:58
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MGSV had the opposite effect as well, where Kiefer Sutherland was presumably so loving expensive to have on that it's almost a shock when Big Boss says more than a single word in a scene.
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Jun 22, 2017 05:00
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Yardbomb posted:MGSV had the opposite effect as well, where Kiefer Sutherland was presumably so loving expensive to have on that it's almost a shock when Big Boss says more than a single word in a scene. Did we ever figure out whether firing David Hayter was purely Kojima's decision, or was it another insane Konami directive that he just had to silently bow his head to because he and his team were functionally Konami's slaves at that point?
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Jun 22, 2017 05:12
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nine-gear crow posted:Did we ever figure out whether firing David Hayter was purely Kojima's decision, or was it another insane Konami directive that he just had to silently bow his head to because he and his team were functionally Konami's slaves at that point? Kojima's a big fan of Keifer, so it was probably his idea. He's said the direction of the game's more serious tone affected his decision. While he didn't state it directly, MGSV moved away from tone that goes with the campiness of Hayter's Snake voice (at least where it eventually ended up a la Peacewalker).
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Jun 22, 2017 05:18
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I still maintain they should've just gotten John Cygan, Solidus was cool and having his voice come out of later-life Big Boss would've been cool as well.WampaLord posted:The Game of Thrones telltale game is better for having actors from the show in it. "Better" is a real low bar to get over for that game though honestly.
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Jun 22, 2017 05:25
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New Butt Order posted:Has getting an A-List actor in to do voice work ever actually worked in the game's favor? In anything I can think of off the top of my head, they have too little presence for their talent to have any impact on the game (Oblivion, Fallout 3), or actively harm the game by clearly just phoning in the lines without any care or enthusiasm. The Game of Thrones telltale game is better for having actors from the show in it.
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Jun 22, 2017 05:25
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New Butt Order posted:Has getting an A-List actor in to do voice work ever actually worked in the game's favor? In anything I can think of off the top of my head, they have too little presence for their talent to have any impact on the game (Oblivion, Fallout 3), or actively harm the game by clearly just phoning in the lines without any care or enthusiasm. Tim Curry in any videogame he has ever been in is probably the best part of said game. ...SPACE!
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Jun 22, 2017 05:40
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Like in Toonstruck! Which has a great cast all around really.
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Jun 22, 2017 05:48
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Yardbomb posted:I still maintain they should've just gotten John Cygan, Solidus was cool and having his voice come out of later-life Big Boss would've been cool as well. Sadly, Cygan passed away about a month ago due to cancer. They could have also brought Richard Doyle back (seeing as how he voices Big Boss at the end of MGS4). Paladin posted:Tim Curry in any videogame he has ever been in is probably the best part of said game. "What can you tell me about voodoo?"
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Jun 22, 2017 05:59
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New Butt Order posted:Has getting an A-List actor in to do voice work ever actually worked in the game's favor? In anything I can think of off the top of my head, they have too little presence for their talent to have any impact on the game (Oblivion, Fallout 3), or actively harm the game by clearly just phoning in the lines without any care or enthusiasm. Kingdom Hearts has had the likes of Christopher Lee, Mark Hamill, Billy Zane Leonard Nimoy, fuckin James Woods and Gilbert Gottfried, etc. Being a Disney game sure helps matters. I mean, the plot is still complete nonsense but that's entirely unrelated to the casting.
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Jun 22, 2017 06:10
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Yardbomb posted:I still maintain they should've just gotten John Cygan, Solidus was cool and having his voice come out of later-life Big Boss would've been cool as well. Canderous Ordo was in Metal Gear? He probably thought Metal Gear Rex was a basilisk war droid.
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Jun 22, 2017 06:16
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Yardbomb posted:MGSV had the opposite effect as well, where Kiefer Sutherland was presumably so loving expensive to have on that it's almost a shock when Big Boss says more than a single word in a scene. I don't know if this is 100% true but I heard that Venom actually had a lot more lines (recorded by Kiefer even!) that Kojima decided to cut with the purpose of making him more passive, or something like that.
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Jun 22, 2017 06:24
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Augus posted:Kingdom Hearts has had the likes of Christopher Lee Had 
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Jun 22, 2017 06:33
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Augus posted:Kingdom Hearts has had the likes of Christopher Lee, Mark Hamill, Billy Zane Leonard Nimoy, fuckin James Woods and Gilbert Gottfried, etc. Being a Disney game sure helps matters. Billy Zane as Ansem was the best part of the first Kingdom Hearts and the second was weaker for his absence. Richard Epcar and Paul St. Peter were just kind of phoning it in as Ansem/Xemnas/Xehanort/whatever in II, which sucks because they're both great VAs themselves.
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Jun 22, 2017 06:56
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The PS2' GTA games were chock full of star names, especially Vice City and San Andreas - and largely their performances were great too. Definitely worked fine, although Rockstar dropped all-star casts from IV onwards (still lots of big names on the radio as DJ's though)
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Jun 22, 2017 07:22
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I was wondering when RLM was finally going to talk about Hollywood Cop. Every day ends with a Tums festival!
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Wrageowrapper posted:Like in Toonstruck! I feel like Toonstruck is an argument for the opposite, since most of the cast are best known as voice actors. It's a big part of what makes the game so fondly remembered. Using character actors tends to work better than going "our lead is Ellen Page", too.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:19
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Kim Justice posted:The PS2' GTA games were chock full of star names, especially Vice City and San Andreas - and largely their performances were great too. Definitely worked fine, although Rockstar dropped all-star casts from IV onwards (still lots of big names on the radio as DJ's though) I always wondered why they stopped doing that after San Andreas. I can only guess they realized that it was better to balance their budget more towards the game itself. Actually, here's a fun bit of trivia: one of the characters in Vice City is voiced by Dennis Hopper, and while that may not seem remarkable considering the other big-name talent they got to star in the game, it's not actually the first game that Hopper was in. He had brief appearances two other games: Black Dahlia and Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller. All three of those games were published by Take2. The story goes that Dennis Hopper was golfing buddies with the president of Take2, and he asked Hopper if he'd be willing to be in a video game. Thing is, his appearances in all three games are extremely brief, and with the exception of Vice City, I think his appearance was only meant to be a selling point. I don't know if we're including FMV games as part of discussion (it seems like we're focusing on voice acting), but there are a lot of cases where they were able to rope in celebrities to star or appear in the game. Ripper is good example (also published by Take2), but I can think of a lot more.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:21
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Witcher 3 had Charles Dance in a quite understated role. Mass Effect had Keith David and Lance Henrickson. And Seth Green of course. And Martin Sheen. Not exactly current top billed Hollywood a-listers at the moment but they all do a good job.
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Jun 22, 2017 08:53
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I doubt very much we're ever gonna get a cast as star studded as we got with Wing Commander. (I want to say 4 but I can't remember) Though San Andreas came drat close. Max Wilco posted:I always wondered why they stopped doing that after San Andreas. I can only guess they realized that it was better to balance their budget more towards the game itself. Which is a shame because half the reason Tenpenny was such a great antagonist was because Samuel Jackson was doing his voice.
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Jun 22, 2017 09:15
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Arcsquad12 posted:Witcher 3 had Charles Dance in a quite understated role. I remember CD Projekt Red hyping the poo poo out of how they got Charles Dance for Witcher 3. That promo was like "look guys! We got Charles Dance in our game! And he's basically playing Tywin Lannister again!" meanwhile Chuck's all like "well, I guess I'm doing video games now..." Also I'd add Tricia Helfer to that list for Mass Effect too. She's become fairly recognizable since her Battlestar Galactica days and BioWare hyped ME2 on "holy poo poo guys we got Tricia Helfer to voice our sexy robot this time!" as much as did on Sheen as the Illusive Man. Hell, there's been a few games hyped on "Tricia Helfer is in this one"; ME2, StarCraft II and Halo 3: ODST immediately come to mind.
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Max Wilco posted:I always wondered why they stopped doing that after San Andreas. I can only guess they realized that it was better to balance their budget more towards the game itself. I think budget was one part of it, but also wanting to go in a different direction - I think that because GTA IV was such a more serious and grounded story, they didn't want recognisable names. Not sure they could have gone much further with it after SA either - the game is stacked. There's Samuel L., of course, but as far as recognisable names go there's also James Woods, Peter Fonda, Ice-T, Charlie Murphy, Frank Vincent, MC Eiht, The Game, Clifton Powell, Chris Penn, David Cross, Debi Mazar, Faizon Love...Axl Rose, Chuck D. and George Clinton on the radio too. It's certainly up there as one of the most celeb-packed games ever.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Witcher 3 had Charles Dance in a quite understated role. Saints Row also had Burt Reynolds and Keith David as characters played by themselves, both of whom could become Homies.
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Jun 22, 2017 11:00
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How can you guys forgot Michael Biehn playing Rex "Power" Colt!?
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Jun 22, 2017 12:12
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TheMaestroso posted:Kojima's a big fan of Keifer, so it was probably his idea. He's said the direction of the game's more serious tone affected his decision. While he didn't state it directly, MGSV moved away from tone that goes with the campiness of Hayter's Snake voice (at least where it eventually ended up a la Peacewalker). From what I recall, he wanted to change his voice for Snake Eater, but it didn't pan out. I heard Hayter was genuinely upset about not even being contacted for MGSV.
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MonsieurChoc posted:How can you guys forgot Michael Biehn playing Rex "Power" Colt!? Or the last couple C&C games? Tricia Helfer, Michael Ironsides, Billy Dee Williams, George Takei, JK Simmons, Jonathan Pryce Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Takoluka posted:From what I recall, he wanted to change his voice for Snake Eater, but it didn't pan out. I heard Hayter was genuinely upset about not even being contacted for MGSV. Yeah he wanted Kurt Russel originally. It would have been better if Hayter was kept separate from Big Boss from the beginning. The way it ended up, he had 3 voice actors who played BB by MGSV and Kojima used none of them. It also begs the question why he didn't use Cygan in MGS4.
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Genocyber posted:I don't know if this is 100% true but I heard that Venom actually had a lot more lines (recorded by Kiefer even!) that Kojima decided to cut with the purpose of making him more passive, or something like that. Completely true. There's a lot of unused dialogue in the games files, ranges from atmosphere lines, lines that would have played when you used the interface/menus, lines that clearly refer to game mechanics that were either never implemented or removed, and there's an entire side-arc that had Sutherland's voice work taken out, turning what were conversations into Big Boss just silently listening to another person talk to him. Worth keeping in mind is that Kojima openly talked about how his inspiration for MGSV Big Boss was Mad Max, initially the one from Mad Max 2 but then he saw and obsessed over Fury Road mid production and swung even harder in that direction.
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TheMaestroso posted:Kojima's a big fan of Keifer, so it was probably his idea. He's said the direction of the game's more serious tone affected his decision. While he didn't state it directly, MGSV moved away from tone that goes with the campiness of Hayter's Snake voice (at least where it eventually ended up a la Peacewalker). I think part/all of it probably has to do with (story spoilers) Venom Snake being a brainwashed imposter.
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Jun 22, 2017 15:29
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I think part/all of it probably has to do with (story spoilers) Venom Snake being a brainwashed imposter. That would make sense but it gets messed up by Ground Zeroes Ishmael and the prologue redux The tape left for Venom The Doublethink tape
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Jun 22, 2017 15:51
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Since I've played most of the games people are pointing out, the lesson I have learned from this discussion is that I didn't notice the good voice actors because I was too busy enjoying the game to take note of the casting.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:41
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I saw Hollywood Cop at a bad film night at a local cinema, so this episode is wonderful. New Vegas has a great cast of name voice actors, because they pick B and C list names who actually act, rather than reading lines. Zoe Bell is a little out of place because she uses her real accent, but she's fine. I do like spotting the main voice actors in games and cartoons who you hear repeatedly, like Robert Akin Downes and Jennifer Hale.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:31
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Sadly Matthew Perry and Chris Kristofferson don't bring their A-game, but then Perry got into the game because he was a fan of Fallout 3, and Kristofferson isn't really a voice actor at all. William Sadler on the other hand I didn't recognize at all until someone pointed it out, he is really good for the small bit he plays. And Rene Auberjonois is just fantastic as House.
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Matthewmatosis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5PdpsfINA
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