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Aves Maria! posted:No, the reason there have been three of them is because DCCC chairs typically don't last longer than two or three years. In fact, ever. Yes. It's the entire leadership team that needs to go. Not just Pelosi.
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mcmagic posted:Keep celebrating moral victories under unified Trumpist government. That's a great look. What do you think happens to an R + 4 district?
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mcmagic posted:Yes. It's the entire leadership team that needs to go. Not just Pelosi. Sounds like a great idea, I'm sure that will magically improve House Democrats fortunes and not completely gently caress the party.
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mcmagic posted:Keep celebrating moral victories under unified Trumpist government. That's a great look. The midterms are in 16.5 months. Your this-matters-o-meter is completely broken, as usual.
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Aves Maria! posted:Sounds like a great idea, I'm sure that will magically improve House Democrats fortunes and not completely gently caress the party. The party literally can't be hosed more than they are hosed at the moment under this set of leaders. Al Borland Corp. posted:What do you think happens to an R + 4 district? Ossoff got <1k votes more than the guy who spent $37 on his campaign against Price in 2016. That is something to celebrate?
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Can we add mcmagic to the list of people no one should respond to?
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Dietrich posted:Can we add mcmagic to the list of people no one should respond to? why haven't you already
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Wow so it looks like uninsured would actually go above 24 million. Christ.
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Dietrich posted:Can we add mcmagic to the list of people no one should respond to? mcmagic needs people in his life who are willing to tell him directly how stupid he is.
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Dietrich posted:Can we add mcmagic to the list of people no one should respond to? Quick, mention Manchin!
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Dietrich posted:Can we add mcmagic to the list of people no one should respond to? He's an amazing resource on electoral strategy so long as you always do the exact opposite.
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mcmagic posted:The party literally can't be hosed more than they are hosed at the moment under this set of leaders. Uh yes, in fact, it can. At the moment House Dems are unified. That's not a guarantee if you start making sacrificial lambs of every single person in a leadership role.
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If we're going to oust the leadership for not delivering campaign victories, why don't we focus on the consultants? Yes, I do listen to the Majority Report, thank you very much.
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mcmagic posted:Ossoff got <1k votes more than the guy who spent $37 on his campaign against Price in 2016. That is something to celebrate? You can't compare a special election to a presidential election. It would be more accurate to look at 2014, and he got well over 50k more votes than the Democrat there.
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Hollismason posted:Wow so it looks like uninsured would actually go above 24 million. Christ. Looks like it's working as intended, then.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:He's an amazing resource on electoral strategy so long as you always do the exact opposite. This also applies to football chat. So don't engage him in football chat, either. 
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mcmagic posted:Yes. It's the entire leadership team that needs to go. Not just Pelosi. Dems should be leaderless, I agree.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:He's an amazing resource on electoral strategy so long as you always do the exact opposite. Because following your strategy prescriptions has really been a massive success for congressional dems... right?
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Hollismason posted:Wow so it looks like uninsured would actually go above 24 million. Christ. So there's talk of an amendment process that's also completely hidden. Is there a possibility that this is a bill designed to look god-loving-awful so that when they amend it and it isn't worse than the House bill they will look like magnanimous people who are capable of compromise? Or is it even worse?
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May I have more hot takes on the Senate's AHCA please I'm on Medicaid, I want to know how much I lose how quickly.
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Boon posted:Dems should be leaderless, I agree. when I said full communism now, I meant it. Starting with our parties.
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TheScott2K posted:The people who want Pelosi out are the same people who become managers who tune out when being told what's actually happening and then pound the desk and say "I want results!" at the end of the meeting. We simply cannot allow J. Jonah Jameson to gain control of the Democrat Party!
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mcmagic posted:Because following your strategy prescriptions has really been a massive success for congressional dems... right? You're the guy in 2004 saying Karl Rove has The Numbers
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Joe Manchin is a great senator, he's strong, he's liberal, and he's my friend
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mcmagic posted:The party literally can't be hosed more than they are hosed at the moment under this set of leaders. 2016 was a presidential election. This is more comparable to a midterm.
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Ofaloaf posted:May I have more hot takes on the Senate's AHCA please It's so bad that you're actually dead right now
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Boon posted:Dems should be leaderless, I agree. it would be a substantial improvement over them being voterless, imo
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:Joe Manchin is a great senator, he's strong, he's liberal, and he's my friend I disagree, Joe Manchin is a real buttface.
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mcmagic posted:Because following your strategy prescriptions has really been a massive success for congressional dems... right? I'm not claiming to be an expert while mixing up presidential and special election turnout.
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TheScott2K posted:You're the guy in 2004 saying Karl Rove has The Numbers You are literally adding nothing to this discussion other than "Dems are doing great and should keep doing what they are doing" while the Trumpists destroy the country and Democrats get beaten by the trumpists like it's their job. Do you realize what an utterly terrible candidate Karen Handel was?
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mcmagic posted:Because following your strategy prescriptions has really been a massive success for congressional dems... right? Alright then, let's put it this way. Who should be House Minority Leader if not Pelosi, and why are they better in that role than her? What qualifications do they have and why should other House Democrats listen to this new person? In short, put up or shut up.
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Javes posted:The current bill is already exceedingly evil, how much more bad can any amendment possibly be? Fuckface McTurtleson will find a way. He always does.
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Please by all means tell me about how a soccer mom enclave in suburban Atlanta would vote en masse if the Dems ran Tommy Douglas of Saskatchewan's Co-operative Commonwealth Federation.
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Ze Pollack posted:it would be a substantial improvement over them being voterless, imo 3 million more voted for Clinton in 2016, a year in which the House minority also gained 6 seats despite Pelosi personally visiting every home in rural America and declaring all of their children to be trans.
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Aves Maria! posted:Uh yes, in fact, it can. At the moment House Dems are unified. That's not a guarantee if you start making sacrificial lambs of every single person in a leadership role. 
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Old James posted:The only time it is used is in reference to a Judge, example "The Honorable Judge Joseph Wapner" to signify the earned trust the public has put in them to apply justice. Omarosa has done nothing to earn that title. Nope. "In the United States the Honorable is a courtesy title used with current and retired high-ranking federal and state officials and judges, and with some local officials. As a general rule, those appointed by the President of the United States (and approved by the United States Senate) and anyone elected to public office are entitled to be addressed as the Honorable for life. The Honorable is always used before a full name. As a courtesy title the Honorable describes an individual: This person is honorable. As such it never precedes the just the name of an office." edit: Here's a cool link. http://www.formsofaddress.info/Honorable.html EndTimesProfit fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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mcmagic posted:Yes. It's the entire leadership team that needs to go. Not just Pelosi. The leadership team seems to be worse than Pelosi. Pelosi is good at what she should be doing, which is leading the Democrats in the House. She's poo poo at giving interviews and generally being likeable -- I cringe every time I see her speaking on TV, because she's just not good at it, constantly whiffing on easy-rear end questions and such, and I'm sympathetic to her views to begin with. She's obviously very skilled at what she does, so we should let her get on with it and stop demanding that she be the charismatic figure that unites the country and ushers in a progressive utopia.
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