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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


every dem primary is going to have one guy whose past is vague except for them working for the CIA, all will have no discernable platform, they will have one of 3 faces, all of them will call hilldawg their hero.

attempts to FOIA them will produce a number of documents all heavily redacted, none dating from before 2014

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


The Muppets On PCP posted:

reaffirming our dedication to civility politics and The Discourse™

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

loquacius posted:

can someone explain to me how the Clinton campaign "went high" at all, while we're on the subject

it was all negative campaigning, that's what "going low" means. "Going high" doesn't mean "positioning yourself as in opposition to racism," it means "running a policy-focused campaign"

In this case it was very clearly meant to indicate that Hillary "Deplorables" Clinton and the Democratic party wouldn't stoop to base demagoguery like those nasty Republicans, meaning they (and by extension you, the voter) are morally superior. They're the party of sensible, competent technocrats don't you know? You can see all the detailed policies if you just visit the website!*


*Or attend one of the many donor dinners where all politically relevant individuals will have an opportunity to hear the candidate's "private" position on the issues.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

The Nastier Nate posted:

Now do a chart on how much they spent per vote

Just DCCC spending its 39.97 per ossoff and 2.04 per quist, Using total raised figures its 184.5 for Osoff (GA), 20.2 Quist (MT), 17.96 For Parnell (SC), and I can't find Thompson's (KS) total raised :thunk:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


if yakov loses the primary he's going to panic about his purpose before collapsing into a puddle of primordial goo

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
david yankovich is pretty clearly a huckster and grifter looking to build his national profile

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

loquacius posted:

can someone explain to me how the Clinton campaign "went high" at all, while we're on the subject

it was all negative campaigning, that's what "going low" means. "Going high" doesn't mean "positioning yourself as in opposition to racism," it means "running a policy-focused campaign"

"when they go low, we go high" wasn't a clinton campaign line. it was given by michelle obama at the dem convention, probably a speech written by obama's staff although i dunno the specifics on how much autonomy is given to speakers at big dem events like that

either way, it was never connected to actual campaign strategy and only caught on as a catch phrase because it came from the only inspiring speech at the convention. which is why it's a little ironic that it's also caught on as a symbol of democrat incompetence, since i think it's still pretty good advice (don't get distracted by mud throwing, focus on the promises you intend to deliver).

Serf
May 5, 2011


if you want to know what the face of local dem races looks like google patricia mccracken

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



david yankovich is weird al's creepy nephew

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Venuz Patrol posted:

"when they go low, we go high" wasn't a clinton campaign line. it was given by michelle obama at the dem convention, probably a speech written by obama's staff although i dunno the specifics on how much autonomy is given to speakers at big dem events like that

either way, it was never connected to actual campaign strategy and only caught on as a catch phrase because it came from the only inspiring speech at the convention. which is why it's a little ironic that it's also caught on as a symbol of democrat incompetence, since i think it's still pretty good advice (don't get distracted by mud throwing, focus on the promises you intend to deliver).

It's because the way dems are going guy is by sneering from an ivory tower. Their entire electoral strategy is a high horse moral superiority because tromp rude and they shake your hand when they pick your pocket

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

It's because the way dems are going guy is by sneering from an ivory tower. Their entire electoral strategy is a high horse moral superiority because tromp rude and they shake your hand when they pick your pocket
unless it's against leftists then pull out all the stops and accuse them of racsexism because they made donors cry

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

GalacticAcid posted:

david yankovich is pretty clearly a huckster and grifter looking to build his national profile

also his mom and dad will complain to the fec that their boy worked just as hard to win his race and he deserves a better grade

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/DavidYankovich/status/809187687450214403

insanity

also this dumbass spent december gearing ppl up for obama to just declare the election results invalid lol

https://twitter.com/DavidYankovich/status/809808884126859264

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

unless it's against leftists then pull out all the stops and accuse them of racsexism because they made donors cry

When they go low, we go high. When they go left, gently caress THAT GUY

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

It's because the way dems are going guy is by sneering from an ivory tower. Their entire electoral strategy is a high horse moral superiority because tromp rude and they shake your hand when they pick your pocket

Yah.

Ferrinus posted this link in dnd and the article is a great explanation of dems' imagined intellectual superiority: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-blathering-superego-at-the-end-of-history/

Liberalism remained slightly kinder than pure reaction — not quite so racist, not so terribly brutal to the poor — but even these commitments were subsumed by the ideology of pure competence. Bigotry wasn’t evil, it was just stupid, an impediment to growth. Health care reform and the welfare state were not moral necessities, they were the best means of keeping workers healthy and productive. The notion that knowledge asymmetries lay at the root of all political conflict was quickly transmuted into the basis of policy itself. If liberals became masters of the world due to their superior respect for facts, then education — not redistribution — was the only hope for the dispossessed. If liberals believed in climate change because scientists told them they should, then the trouble was not the metastatic excesses of capital but the failure of reactionaries to bow to empirical consensus.

The result was an American political movement whose center was a moral void. When John Kerry spoke out against the death penalty, his opposition was based in flawed application — the punishment just wasn’t smart. When he criticized Bush’s handling of the War in Iraq, his position was similar: he would continue the war but be more strategic about it. When Kerry lost, American liberals opined that there were just too many rubes out there. They would have voted better — smarter — if only they had had the right data visualizations in front of them. When Barack Obama won, and then passed the Heritage Foundation’s health care policy while carrying out a drone war responsible for the incineration of children in half a dozen sovereign nations, he did it while remaining the smartest guy in the room. That was what mattered. At the dawn of the 21st century, we stood on the doorstep of a permanent managerial world order. The wonks just needed to finish explaining it to the rest of us.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
lol hes straight up some sort of children of the corncob monstrosity, nice

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

unless it's against leftists then pull out all the stops and accuse them of racsexism because they made donors cry

That's not "public" discourse so it doesn't count

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

That's not "public" discourse so it doesn't count
wapo and nyt hit pieces and sham articles aren't public discourse :thunk:

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
David yanking-off-this-bitch hush yer gums

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
"sheered" dave yankovich

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

wapo and nyt hit pieces and sham articles aren't public discourse :thunk:

Don't tell me how to talk to my son you-

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
whoa hey slow your roll, Michelle wasnt the only inspiring speech at the DNC

Rev Barber brought down the house

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Iron-stache is now backed by the Brock's civilizing forces

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Zhulik posted:

At some point in the early 2000s a member of the Duma argued that measures to reduce state corruption would inevitably backfire.

He unironically argued that the current corrupt establishment should be left alone, because it's embezzling less after having been sated. You see, replacing any corrupt officials would only serve to reset the embezzling rate to default levels and make everything worse.

This is what this talk of "well, anyone that replaces Pelosi would be just as lovely" is reminding me of.

theres no point in replacing a corrupt official when they'll just be replaced by another corrupt official. it's more important to deal with the body or system that's putting corrupt officials in power in the first place

in the case of Dem leadership, ousting a generic incompetent centrist from a leadership position is a waste of energy if a solid supermajority of the people involved in choosing their replacement are generic incompetent centrists

Brother Friendship posted:

the cherry on top of 2016 was harry reid, after witness the complete demolishment of the democrats at every level of government, trotted out of hiding just to say that the Democrats were doing great and didn't need to change anything.

remember when the House under Pelosi passed a public option and then Reid's Senate cut it out

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Take some advice from Republicans, yall!

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/national-party-news/338778-opinion-left-wing-politics-will-be-the-demise-of-the

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

paranoid randroid posted:

whoa hey slow your roll, Michelle wasnt the only inspiring speech at the DNC

Rev Barber brought down the house

oh thats a fair point, i couldnt remember all the speeches so i was comparing to bill clinton, bloomberg, and the glass ceiling effect

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Venuz Patrol posted:

oh thats a fair point, i couldnt remember all the speeches so i was comparing to bill clinton, bloomberg, and the glass ceiling effect

that visual and its sound effect will forever live in my memories

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
i feel obligated to hold the Barber speech up at every possible opportunity cuz i feel that sort of thing ought to be the democratic model moving forward

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

paranoid randroid posted:

i feel obligated to hold the Barber speech up at every possible opportunity cuz i feel that sort of thing ought to be the democratic model moving forward

this one was better because it shuts up all the idpol vs economic arguments dumb people still have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUEmUVWd38

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Uncle Wemus posted:

Would it really be much worse if dems ran a pro choice socialist in Oklahoma

But what if they were ok with guns :eek:
Pro choice and pro-arming fetuses with guns

Don't ban abortion but give the fetus the power of self defense.

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

Remember when Obama had a huge legion of young voters and volunteers who were going to change America and then decided Wall Street is cool 😎

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

NNick posted:

Remember when Obama had a huge legion of young voters and volunteers who were going to change America and then decided Wall Street is cool 😎

The smartest Americans are forgoing engineering and medicine for Wall Street too.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

NNick posted:

Remember when Obama had a huge legion of young voters and volunteers who were going to change America and then decided Wall Street is cool 😎

Obama's Lost Army: He built a grassroots machine of two million supporters eager to fight for change. Then he let it die. This is the untold story of Obama’s biggest mistake—and how it paved the way for Trump.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ok, the only recent thing I found about yanko was that he moved to WI from OH.

and if he's 47, as the one mylife match from OH with his name maintains, I wonder if this popo report is his (even tho middle initials don't match): https://www.policearrests.com/arrests/david_l_yankovich_id_7213711.html

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Willa Rogers posted:

ok, the only recent thing I found about yanko was that he moved to WI from OH.

and if he's 47, as the one mylife match from OH with his name maintains, I wonder if this popo report is his (even tho middle initials don't match): https://www.policearrests.com/arrests/david_l_yankovich_id_7213711.html

lmao idk he looks younger than that

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

GalacticAcid posted:

lmao idk he looks younger than that

yah, it's not him lol: http://ohio.arrests.org/Arrests/David_Yankovich_17479843/

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Willa Rogers posted:

ok, the only recent thing I found about yanko was that he moved to WI from OH.

and if he's 47, as the one mylife match from OH with his name maintains, I wonder if this popo report is his (even tho middle initials don't match): https://www.policearrests.com/arrests/david_l_yankovich_id_7213711.html

his middle initial is M using info from WHOIS on his website

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
https://twitter.com/ClickHole/status/877964435540848640

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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

someone with a linkedin acct plz check this and report any salient deets: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-yankovich-8856044/

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