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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Stafford is at 127 million right now

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AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Derek Carr will be halfway there before he hits 30.

WinnebagoWarrior
Apr 8, 2009

I eat Rotheseburgehergh's like you for breakfast

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Nobody will ever make more than Peyton Manning ever again. Almost $250 million.

This doesn't make any sense. Salaries for QBs are increasing. There a few guys playing right now that could beat 250.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
How many of them will be able to play that long though? Is playing to the end of your 30's going to be the new normal, or the outlier? What will salary increases look like when the CBA runs out in 2020 and has to be renegotiated around the fact that current TV contracts are unsustainable? Recent history has not been kind to the NFLPA.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Luck should have been able to beat it but he's going to be a broken shell by 30.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lol somebody said Carr is bad under pressure

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

Diqnol posted:

I mean, have the Lions ever had a decent OL?

Sometimes? But no run game since Barry retired.

https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/877907935015428098

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Volkerball posted:

Lol somebody said Carr is bad under pressure

If you like DVOA he's about middle of the road. Also, rarely under pressure.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Yeah, the key thing to remember about Stafford is that until relatively recently, Megatron was literally the only real offensive weapon on the team. "Chuck it to Calvin" can only work so often, and it's what killed the Lions especially in 2012.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
https://twitter.com/OnlyInBOS/status/877896488478679042

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Volkerball posted:

Lol somebody said Carr is bad under pressure

His first two years he was dogshit under pressure.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^


:stare: Those loving sack numbers

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



Imagine if he got hurt doing these stunts.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Ice Fist posted:

:stare: Those loving sack numbers

The Lions' O-Line was loving horrific in 2015. There's a reason we drafted 3 linemen in 2016.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Acebuckeye13 posted:

The Lions' O-Line was loving horrific in 2015. There's a reason we drafted 3 linemen in 2016.

I know. The difference is just really stark when you put those numbers next to each other. I'm amazed Stafford was able to put up those numbers considering that kind of pressure.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

Volkerball posted:

Lol somebody said Carr is bad under pressure

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

SKULL.GIF posted:

Imagine if he got hurt doing these stunts.

I think that's why he's not pushed back at all. He only tries to push the guy and fails.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

Shangri-Law School posted:

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.
He looked bitch made against the Broncos in 2015. If I'm not mistaken he recorded the lowest quarterback rating of his career that night :twisted:

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Shangri-Law School posted:

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.

Stupid sexy Rodgers.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Shangri-Law School posted:

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.

Rodgers is actually handsome and smart and strong and hes my friend

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Shangri-Law School posted:

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.

Even then, Rodgers is somewhere between Tyrod Taylor and Eli Manning under pressure by DVOA.

If a QB's actually being pressured by a rusher, he's either getting sacked, throwing it away, running for his life or tossing up a prayer. Everyone sucks at it, sucking less bad is nice, but I think run like hell or drop to the ground just makes sense.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Shangri-Law School posted:

Every quarterback is bad under pressure, except stupid Rodgers.

Nope

Check OP

(Against the blitz)

Plus he's handsome

the mean lunch lady
Jun 24, 2009

went mad at sea
lots were drawn
Kroenke didn't survive
he was delicious

Kalli posted:

Even then, Rodgers is somewhere between Tyrod Taylor and Eli Manning under pressure by DVOA.

If a QB's actually being pressured by a rusher, he's either getting sacked, throwing it away, running for his life or tossing up a prayer. Everyone sucks at it, sucking less bad is nice, but I think run like hell or drop to the ground just makes sense.

This^

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Nobody will ever make more than Peyton Manning ever again. Almost $250 million.
Eli is at $205.8m.

If he plays out the 3 years left on his deal, he beats that.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Eli Wiggum posted:

He looked bitch made against the Broncos in 2015. If I'm not mistaken he recorded the lowest quarterback rating of his career that night :twisted:

This game also apparently ruined our team for like the next year. I still have nightmares about it.

Edit: I turned this game off it was so painful so I didn't realize until just now that Rodgers only had loving 77 yards passing. :stare: :laffo:

Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jun 22, 2017

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Diva Cupcake posted:

Eli is at $205.8m.

If he plays out the 3 years left on his deal, he beats that.
Rivers should be close to that shouldn't he?

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

a neat cape posted:

Rivers should be close to that shouldn't he?
Slightly behind at $173.9m. Brees and Brady are ahead of him but obv older.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-chargers/philip-rivers-3522/cash-earnings/

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

Ice Fist posted:

This game also apparently ruined our team for like the next year. I still have nightmares about it.
It was a Sunday night game and both teams were 6-0 going into it. It was also a tribute to Super Bowl XXXII so there was a ton of hype going in.

I really thought the Broncos were going to lose, but lo and behold they turn in one of their best defensive performances of the season and it was the one game in 2015 where Peyton looked like his old self (wounded ducks notwithstanding).

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

kiimo posted:

His first two years he was dogshit under pressure.

To be fair, everyone he was throwing those first few years are out of the league now except Andre Holmes and eh

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Diva Cupcake posted:

Eli is at $205.8m.

If he plays out the 3 years left on his deal, he beats that.

Dang it's nuts to think he's earned 205 but is worth roughly 100

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Ice Fist posted:

:stare: Those loving sack numbers

I was about to say 20 sacks a season is pretty good, then I saw that those were averages.

Carr's contract apparently has 40 million fully guaranteed and 70 guaranteed for injury.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

To be clear I think Carr is great and I was wildly jealous you all got him.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
You'll have you're Alex Smith and you'll like him darn it.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Grittybeard posted:

I was about to say 20 sacks a season is pretty good, then I saw that those were averages.

Carr's contract apparently has 40 million fully guaranteed and 70 guaranteed for injury.

Rivers has been sacked an average of 38 times a year the last 7 years.

Build your Offensive lines, teams

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

You'll have you're Alex Smith and you'll like him darn it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIcoYPk2FFA

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Tannehill was sacked 50+ times his first three years

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Amy Pole Her posted:

Tannehill was sacked 50+ times his first three years
I was about to say "same for Bortles" but apparently he was only sacked 34 times this past season. He has been sacked 140 times in 46 games.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Amy Pole Her posted:

Tannehill was sacked 50+ times his first three years

Sack chat made me look up the king. David Carr took 76 sacks his first season, 49 his third, and 68 his fourth.

The weird thing is he only took 15 in his second year. Sure he got hurt and only started 11 games and played in 12, looking it up you can call it about 9 full games starting. But that's by far on pace for the lowest times sacked season he ever played in Houston, and it's the only year he ever missed a start.

Football is a weird thing sometimes.

e: QB Eagles deserves mention too. 72, 54, 57, 45, 49, 2 (got hurt in the first game of the season), 60, 7 (hurt again), 43 from 1986 to '94.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jun 22, 2017

Chromatic
Jan 21, 2005

You guys ready to hear a satanic song?
lmaoooo

https://twitter.com/chief8225/status/877913458095775744


http://i.imgur.com/U01bHpc.gifv

Pat "Pat!" Mahomes is going to ether the AFCW for years to come.

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Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
I wonder what Marcus is gonna get when his rookie deal runs out. Do you pay him 125m like Carr?

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