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serious gaylord posted:If I wanted to start playing Skylines with the aim of being a super detail nutcase like all the youtubers, is there a list of 'must have' mods? Probably you'll want the auto-bulldoze mod that gets rid of abandoned and ruined buildings.
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dogstile posted:I want to do that but have it extend underground. I'm wondering how feasible it'd be. It works pretty well, make it like a layer cake with on ramps. Tunnel is for bypass northbound, surface for local, flyover for bypass southbound. Another flyover if you need to separate local north and south bound.
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Jun 21, 2017 17:51
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serious gaylord posted:If I wanted to start playing Skylines with the aim of being a super detail nutcase like all the youtubers, is there a list of 'must have' mods? There's quite a few but start with BloodyPenguin's stuff on the Steam Workshop. Note that SOME of that stuff is outdated (like the Metro Overhaul Mod) and won't work with the Mass Transit DLC (maybe not even with the latest patch, not sure if it's the DLC specifically that breaks it) but for the most part it all still works and there's tons of good stuff in there for detail work - things like Prop Anarchy. Boformer also has some great stuff, like the Network Skins mod (change the trees/lights/whatever on the roads). Take a look through their stuff as well. I have a small road with trees on it near my beach, and it has some nice palm trees instead of the default oak ones. You'll need Precision Engineering and MoveIt. Not sure what the latest and best traffic/roads mod is but if you want extra roads you'll need one of those - I use Network Extensions 2. e: DLC/patch just happened so just make sure to check the comments before trying stuff to make sure it isn't broken or anything. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Jun 22, 2017 00:43
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Thanks for that! DLC wise which are the ones most worth having? I've seen some of them don't really add much so I'd rather avoid spending money on them unless they're really worth it.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:48
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serious gaylord posted:Thanks for that! Snowfall is mostly a gimmick, but it's interesting for a couple of cities and if you like trams it's worth it. After Dark alone is kind of useless, but it's nice when paired with the Rush Hour mod. If you're into bikes and taxis then it's probably up your alley regardless. Mass Transit is good and adds a lot of neat stuff. Natural Disasters is probably pretty ignorable. Most of the disasters will permanently destroy and deform the terrain in your city, but all of the disasters themselves are well done. Maybe some day someone will make a scenario like From Dust and it'd be neat.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:04
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serious gaylord posted:Thanks for that! -The Night life one adds bike lanes, it's the only useful actual city-building thing it adds, the rest is pure fluff, some ugly hotels and tourist shops. If you're wanting a city with bikes, get it, otherwise avoid. -The Snowfall one was hilarious, people kept asking for weather/seasons and CO in their classic pattern interpreted this request in the worst way possible. Instead of having dynamic seasons they made special maps that are permanently winter, it's all winter and snowy all the time. They added snow plow trucks and steam based heating, the former is just yet another service vehicle you need crawling around your city, the later is just more pipe-laying busywork. What snowfall did add of worth was TRAMS, if you want trams, get snowfall. -Disasters added absolutely nothing related to city building, so unless you want disaster you can totally avoid it. -The latest DLC added a bunch of oddly balanced new transit types, blimps, ferries, cable cars, and the monorail. The blimps are silly, the ferries look terrible with 5 story drops from the dock to the boat, the monorails aren't as good as the MOM mod, and the cable cars are ok. Once again, unless a specific item in that list jumps out at you, easy to avoid and mods add way more for transit anyways. For me bikes and trams were must-have, I bought the latest DLC but have yet to use a single one of the new transit options 
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Jun 22, 2017 20:06
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Trams are the best, I loved the game from the start but the lack of trams was really obnoxious to me.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:14
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Don't forget that monorails are apparently so loud they make people living nearby sick and die if you ever try and use them near residential areas. While I can definitely relate to noise being awful I'm not sure living in a flat on the far side of a building on the far side of a block across the road from a monorail station would be loud enough to make me fall down dead.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:18
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Thats kind of annoying that they seperated trams and bikes. I might wait till its in the summer sale and just grab it all at once then.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:21
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Poil posted:Don't forget that monorails are apparently so loud they make people living nearby sick and die if you ever try and use them near residential areas. While I can definitely relate to noise being awful I'm not sure living in a flat on the far side of a building on the far side of a block across the road from a monorail station would be loud enough to make me fall down dead. I can see certain kinds of sound pollution being nasty in the long term. Long ago I was at a graduation party for an old friend. His family lived some 10 minutes away from Bromma Flygplats (airport), and I remember some planes still got so close during approach that his father had to pause his speech several times. I myself lives only a further 10 minutes away from them, and while I often hear the planes, they're never close to being disruptive. But monorails being superloud sounds a bit wacky to me. Haven't used them in game tbh because lol.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:23
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Poil posted:Don't forget that monorails are apparently so loud they make people living nearby sick and die if you ever try and use them near residential areas. While I can definitely relate to noise being awful I'm not sure living in a flat on the far side of a building on the far side of a block across the road from a monorail station would be loud enough to make me fall down dead. That combined with people being a-ok tucked right up against industrial tracks was a headscratcher. Industrial trains have ruined some really nice waterfront neighborhoods in my city, my brother gets woken up every single night from shunting.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:25
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I made a map http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952708008
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Jun 22, 2017 20:26
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Baronjutter posted:-Disasters added absolutely nothing related to city building, so unless you want disaster you can totally avoid it. The Disasters DLC also adds emergency services helicopters which are actually really well implemented and are basically the trams of the DLC. serious gaylord posted:Thats kind of annoying that they seperated trams and bikes. I might wait till its in the summer sale and just grab it all at once then. It is in the summer sale.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:33
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turn off the TV posted:The Disasters DLC also adds emergency services helicopters which are actually really well implemented and are basically the trams of the DLC. ON MY WAY.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:37
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Is it difficult to disable disasters if you buy that dlc? I wouldn't put it past Colossal Odiots to make it a mandatory annoyance.BigglesSWE posted:I can see certain kinds of sound pollution being nasty in the long term. Long ago I was at a graduation party for an old friend. His family lived some 10 minutes away from Bromma Flygplats (airport), and I remember some planes still got so close during approach that his father had to pause his speech several times. I myself lives only a further 10 minutes away from them, and while I often hear the planes, they're never close to being disruptive. You can use monorails just fine around industrial areas and the commercial specialty districts since people in hotels apparently don't mind noise at all, no matter how loud. 
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Jun 22, 2017 20:38
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I got a mod that just turns off all noise pollution. I like the idea of noise and air quality and such being factors but co didn't implement them well at all.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:39
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The steam store keeps crashing for me so I'll guess i'll get it over the weekend.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:46
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Poil posted:Is it difficult to disable disasters if you buy that dlc? I wouldn't put it past Colossal Odiots to make it a mandatory annoyance. No you can turn them off, and change which disasters show up in the theme editor. I usually do thunderstorms and forest fires.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:49
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You can disable disasters, but dunno if you can in-game or if you have to do it from the main menu.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:49
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turn off the TV posted:No you can turn them off, and change which disasters show up in the theme editor. I usually do thunderstorms and forest fires. 
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Jun 22, 2017 20:56
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benzine posted:Not skyline but got the "build a city itch", and decided to start a new SC4 region. Oh hey I saw your posts of this on reddit the other day, it's a Good Region and  to SC4 bro!
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Jun 22, 2017 21:03
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Baronjutter posted:I got a mod that just turns off all noise pollution. I like the idea of noise and air quality and such being factors but co didn't implement them well at all. link please?
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Jun 22, 2017 21:14
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My approach to noise pollution was to have industrial traffic relegated to labyrinthine and multi-levelled underground tunnels not unlike the building in Westworld and to have necessary pollution buildings on special "garbage islands" because why not. Other than a minor negative effect on happiness of residences, is noise pollution a big deal?
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Jun 22, 2017 22:11
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jokes posted:Other than a minor negative effect on happiness of residences, is noise pollution a big deal? They will literally die next to monorail stations.
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Kilonum posted:link please? I can't find it on google, so it's once again one of those mods that doesn't name itself something intuitive. I'll report when I get home. It's a great little mod, lets you turn a whole bunch of things on/off.
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Jun 22, 2017 22:21
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I downloaded a quieter version of all the monorail stations from the Workshop, just in case anyone was wondering if that exists.
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Jun 22, 2017 22:36
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I just disable noise pollution entirely because it is completely unrealistic and is there for arbitrary challenge in a game where there is very little challenge. There are countless people that live within feet of elevated train lines in NYC and they don't just drop dead or live in terrible health. And it's been that way for the better part of a century. And that is to say nothing of residential neighborhoods that popped up around industrialized buildings that are loud. People also live across the street from Yankee Stadium, a street that has an elevated train line and station.
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Jun 23, 2017 00:09
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Yeah. Moderately reduced property values or slight unhappiness would be realistic. Literally dropping dead because you're across the street from a subway station is retarded.
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Jun 23, 2017 00:15
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Noise pollution is really meant to abstract away many 'badness' factors into a single value, but lumping health hazards and irritant hazards together leads to issues like that.
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Jun 23, 2017 01:44
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I live in non-Japan Asia, if noise pollution were such a deadly issue all these countries would be empty.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:42
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I live in NYC and living near a below-ground subway station is very desirable. I used to have one like 100 feet from my building's front door and never heard it - noise pollution from underground trains is simply a non-issue. The above ground ones are louder but as has been noted, plenty of people live literally a few feet from elevated tracks or stations and it's totally fine. Being next to a train (not subway) track would suck but in the game those produce little if any noise. The game has it completely backwards.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:58
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Baronjutter posted:I can't find it on google, so it's once again one of those mods that doesn't name itself something intuitive. I'll report when I get home. It's a great little mod, lets you turn a whole bunch of things on/off. Just reminding you that we are waiting for that mod... Deathwave because of monorail is bullshit.
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Jun 23, 2017 09:53
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I live literally next to an airport (I can look out of my window and see the runway) and only hear the planes if I have my windows open. Even then i've lived near planes all my life and don't even notice anymore. My family would be talking to eachother and people who have come round have said "sorry I didn't hear that, plane" and we'd be like "what plane".
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ToastyPotato posted:I just disable noise pollution entirely because it is completely unrealistic and is there for arbitrary challenge in a game where there is very little challenge. There are countless people that live within feet of elevated train lines in NYC and they don't just drop dead or live in terrible health. And it's been that way for the better part of a century. And that is to say nothing of residential neighborhoods that popped up around industrialized buildings that are loud. People also live across the street from Yankee Stadium, a street that has an elevated train line and station. Yeah I think I'm going to just do this because the more I think about it the more it annoys me that I have to put my stadium so far away from everything else and then figure out how to fill all that green space.
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dogstile posted:I live literally next to an airport (I can look out of my window and see the runway) and only hear the planes if I have my windows open. Even then i've lived near planes all my life and don't even notice anymore. My family would be talking to eachother and people who have come round have said "sorry I didn't hear that, plane" and we'd be like "what plane". I live next to a rail yard and a helipad and sleep through it all. I am far from dead.
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The really bad thing is empty dump trucks going over potholed roads. Those things are like mega-drums.
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Jun 23, 2017 16:23
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I think I found the mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=769744928
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Jun 23, 2017 16:46
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COMRADES posted:Yeah I think I'm going to just do this because the more I think about it the more it annoys me that I have to put my stadium so far away from everything else and then figure out how to fill all that green space. To be fair this is among the most realistic instances of noise pollution in the game.
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I wish that someone would make a mod that just causes people to randomly get sick. And a mod to lengthen prison sentences so that there would ever be a reason to build a prison.
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Livin next to a stadium or even small baseball field or anywhere they hold events can be hell. There's one blocks away from me and it can get loud enough to be annoying. Living next to a subway station though? lol. Monorails are quiet too. Buses are way louder than both.
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