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Nasgate posted:I will report back if the quick leak works on mobile My understanding is that the Bio works and the Sap sticks, but it wears out in real-time, whether you're in the middle of Quick or not. If the target is Heavy that means it doesn't last particularly long.
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I'm entering the void after picking up all the summons, and wondering if anyone has advice for taking on Omega with a team of Samurai/Samurai/Dancer/Summoner. What kind of level/gear/set up is gonna be required for this team?
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Nasgate posted:I will report back if the quick leak works on mobile It does not. To be specific, stopping in the middle of a Quick does prevent any actions from taking place, but the timer on Sap is not infinite and will run out eventually. I'm not really sure what they "fixed," i.e. if the original versions' sap has a time limit and they fixed it to run out during a Quick, or if they fixed it by giving it a time limit. But either way, no Quickleaking. edit: what agradine said
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OzFactor posted:It does not. To be specific, stopping in the middle of a Quick does prevent any actions from taking place, but the timer on Sap is not infinite and will run out eventually. I'm not really sure what they "fixed," i.e. if the original versions' sap has a time limit and they fixed it to run out during a Quick, or if they fixed it by giving it a time limit. But either way, no Quickleaking. It's the former. Sap wears off after a short period of time normally; if it didn't, trying to run Soul Cannon with a team of thieves would be entirely impossible instead of just mostly impossible. And status effects wear off significantly quicker on enemies that are Heavy; that's why you need to keep Silencing the Rugwizard if you try to punch him; Silence wears off after a single turn's time for him. Serene Dragon posted:I'm entering the void after picking up all the summons, and wondering if anyone has advice for taking on Omega with a team of Samurai/Samurai/Dancer/Summoner. What kind of level/gear/set up is gonna be required for this team? Ramuh/Odin/Bahamut are going to be your only forms of damage, and you're gonna eat a lot of counters. It's going to take a long time and you're gonna burn through a lot of elixirs. Whether it's "possible"? Theoretically. You'd probably want to be level 50+, maybe closer to 60 or 70. Put Aegis Shields or Flame Shields (depending on taste/fear of Atomic Ray vs Encircle counters) on both of your samurai, and if possible, Genji Helm/Lamia Tiaras/Ribbons on whoever you can manage to avoid Rocket Punch's confusion. Summoner might want to keep the Gold Hairpin, depending on if you find yourself running out of MP before heals. For the record, that team can normally beat the final boss comfortably at about Lv35 or lower, so you're going well above and beyond what you'd need for that. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Jun 23, 2017 16:54
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   Run #2 down. A ridiculously easy run with White mage/Red Mage/Time Mage and Summoner. Quickleaked omega while I was asleep, and shinryu was a joke with both summoner and white mage. Being able to do dualcast and quick was pretty great. So there's another a butt. What were the classes for the triple crown incentive?
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OzFactor posted:HOLD UP WAIT A SECOND how much damage can I expect to do to the Rugfucker if I blast through the lamp? Holding an Air Knife for Syldra boost? Trip report: it's only about another 3000 damage total. I think the only way this could theoretically happen is if I wait for him to Silence himself, RF-CK him twice (I learned I can get two off if I have him targeted when the Silence sticks), unload the lamp on him, then he gets himself with Bio pretty soon after that, then he gets himself with Silence or Stop relatively soon after that. Then he might be down below 4000. But, like, that's a whole lot of ifs and thens. Maybe I'll come back and try a few times after I gain the many, many levels I need for NED anyway. I'll keep you all updated, I'm sure you're riveted.
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KataraniSword posted:
sword dance chicken knife would do more damage and thus less overall counters. dancer with equip katanas for the strength bonus, everyone else geared for survival/elixer spamming e: katana crits can ignore his defense too
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fits posted:sword dance chicken knife would do more damage and thus less overall counters. dancer with equip katanas for the strength bonus, everyone else geared for survival/elixer spamming I keep forgetting that Sword Dance is "Attack * 2, M * 2" and keep thinking it's "M * 4".  In most cases they're functionally identical, but in this case where a boss has 190 loving defense, not so much. With those numbers, Masamune Sword Dancing should work, too, though it'd do much less damage.Katana crits would work on paper, but in practice getting around that 95% evasion and getting a critical isn't too likely to happen. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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I've beaten Shinryu and NED now, so it's just Omega left.Thanks for all the tips, chicken dance is probably my safest bet for damage. I have plenty of ribbons/tiaras/dresses/aegis shields for all. I couldn't get the genji helm but I do have the armour that I think also protects against confusion. Edit: I've had to rely on katana and barehanded crits to damage Omega before with my samurai/monk/thief/white team. It was rough going.
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I have Monk/Berserkerx3 and am currently staring down the Byblos wall. What a pain.
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Yeah, Chicken Knife Sword Dances are going to be your offense. Dancer is secretly one of the better Omega classes. Put Equip Ribbons on everyone. Usually I do Dancer kills in the mid-40's, but I have a lot of practice. BRING 50+ ELIXIRS and Phoenix Downs (I grind them in the Ronka Ruins void part on the level checkers in the room with a ton of elevators, but wherever works). Come into the fight with Float (Tempting Tango Poison eagles and restore their MP to have them cast float on you). Equipment should be- Dancer w/Equip Katana Chicken Knife Ribbon Rainbow Dress Hermes Sandals Samuraix2 w/Equip Ribbon Masamune / Whatever Aegis Shield Ribbon Rainbow Dress Hermes Sandals Summoner w/Equip Ribbon Whatever (Actually, a Wonder Wand queued to Shell for the Dancer would be excellent) Ribbon Rainbow Dress Hermes Sandals You need to !Dance immediately after Wave Cannons, then elixir everyone up. The missile counters do 50 %current HP damage, and your party is immune to Confuse with this setup (note, it's actually the Rainbow Dresses, not the Ribbons, that block confuse), so you're safe from them (and praying that your Dancer doesn't get Encircled). Everyone else is on elixir duty. ...I think Sword Dances can crit. Depending on how much damage your Sword Dances are doing, a Murakumo *might* be a better choice. derra fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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grand theft grotto posted:I have Monk/Berserkerx3 and am currently staring down the Byblos wall. What a pain. I feel so sorry for you. I just got to experience the wonder of slowing him then blowing him apart with flame rod enhanced fire 2 and a flame scroll. I think he got one physical attack off. I think this will be my last mobile version run. I really enjoy the character portraits but being prevented from triple crowns is annoying. Maybe next year if I get in in time for berserkerrisk since they seem marginally better.
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Lurdiak posted:Eh, screw it.  Dragoon / Knight / Berserker / Monk (replacing Ranger as fifth job) Definitely the most tedious Brave Blade run I've ever had. It's not even eligible for Bad Seafood's Brave Blade challenge since I accidentally ran away from an encounter early on, leaving the weapon perennially at 149 attack power. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Everyone who clears the game with the name "a butt" will trigger a 2 dollar donation from me, up to a maximum of 70 bucks(it'd be more but the exchange rate is murder).
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derra posted:Yeah, Chicken Knife Sword Dances are going to be your offense.  Thanks very much for this, I just managed it at level 47 (with copious save stating to avoid encircle counters) using a similar set up to this. I put !dance, murakumo and genji armour on one of my samurai to test critical sword dance. It did ~1800 damage without crit, it only ever critted once for me but the critical did 9999 damage . Chicken dance did roughly 4400. So chicken dance is the more reliable method but yeah a critical murakumo dance hits max damage. Serene Dragon fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Is the dark bow blind proc that flash that I've always been assuming was a critical? And is the killer bow's proc equally subtle or the Death Sickle-style skull?
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gently caress it, let's do another run. For now, "Live Off The Land", no buying magic, equipment, or items, everything else fair game. Of course, this may change if I want to ditch it. So far so good, though! e: Karlabos wasn't too bad.  Finally got seven Daggers! Mega64 fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Jun 23, 2017 22:42
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What's the diff between Chaos and Pure Chaos? Does Pure Chaos allow duplicates or something?
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Poulpe posted:What's the diff between Chaos and Pure Chaos? The opposite. Pure chaos has no dupes and includes freelancer and mime. I think you can't do 750/no750 with it?
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 So uhh, I may have overleveled a bit grinding rare drops. At least the flame rod will be worth it, as I unlocked Summoner! Is this even still a challenge at this point
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Chemist/zerk/zerk/zerk. Once I get to the Earth crystal everything is gravy, but... Sandworm.
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Mega64 posted:
I thought part of the whole point of a "live off the land" challenge was to avoid grinding for drops and just using whatever the RNG deigns to bless you with?
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Do that many people use save states? Kind of kills the whole point, doesn't it?apostateCourier posted:Chemist/zerk/zerk/zerk. Once I get to the Earth crystal everything is gravy, but... Sandworm. https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/876807289218498561 https://twitter.com/revenantkioku/status/876807805369368576 Looks like RK is sporadically streaming his run 
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W.T. Fits posted:I thought part of the whole point of a "live off the land" challenge was to avoid grinding for drops and just using whatever the RNG deigns to bless you with? Oops!
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Doom Goon posted:Do that many people use save states? Kind of kills the whole point, doesn't it? I honestly only use it for spots where I just don't feel like plodding back from the savepoint again. It's not any easier to beat a boss with it just putting a savestate at the end of a long drawn out dialog.
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Finally got Holy! Now all enemies will quake in fear at my Dualcasting might. ...so, any point in going for the last two tablets? Not for the weapons but for the treasures within the areas, and such.
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Doom Goon posted:Do that many people use save states? Kind of kills the whole point, doesn't it? In situations where your only options are a) grind like mad, or b) retry the fight over and over again until the stars align, I am absolutely fine with using savestates to speed up the latter option. It's not like grinding requires more skill. Also, it's a singleplayer game and a charity benefit, play however you have the most fun.
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Alxprit posted:Finally got Holy! Now all enemies will quake in fear at my Dualcasting might. Depends on your party, honestly. Great Sea Trench has crap except Meteor, but is a great grind spot if you have Bard (or White Mage to a lesser extent) since everything is undead. Istory Falls has a few neat things like the Titan Axe for Zerks, a second Aegis Shield, and an additional Enhancer if you have both MK and RM (or two of each).
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Does the Karnak trick not work in the SNES version of FF5? I'm always getting arrested before I can buy anything.
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Poulpe posted:Does the Karnak trick not work in the SNES version of FF5? If the trick is what I think it is, then you buy exactly one item and it happens immediately.
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Poulpe posted:Does the Karnak trick not work in the SNES version of FF5? You still get a item, but you can't buy multiples.
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Schwarzwald posted:If the trick is what I think it is, then you buy exactly one item and it happens immediately. Rirse posted:You still get a item, but you can't buy multiples. Ahh gotcha! Thanks!
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Final party: Ninja / Summoner / Dancer / Beastmaster After Karnak, things actually get a bit difficult. There's literally no new knives that are found/dropped in World 1 besides the Main Gauche. Luckily there's two Moonring Blades, but my offense is getting kinda dire, though fortunately I have Summoner to pick up the slack. I also have no reliable healing since I can't even stock up on regular-rear end Potions easily. All I can do is stock up on bears and Flame Scrolls and hope for the best in World 2! e:  YOU CAN DUAL WIELD WHIPS Mega64 fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Mega64 posted:
You can dualwield anything but bows and harps.
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Funktastic posted:
Serene Dragon posted:I've beaten Shinryu and NED now, so it's just Omega left.Thanks for all the tips, chicken dance is probably my safest bet for damage. I have plenty of ribbons/tiaras/dresses/aegis shields for all. I couldn't get the genji helm but I do have the armour that I think also protects against confusion. Serene Dragon posted:
Adding Funktastic and Serene Dragon to the list.
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Huzzah! posted:Another a butt for the a butt pile. Ninja's throw command, or at least the scrolls, scales off of their magic stat. So giving one !white or !summoning is generally a good call.
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The game decided to repay my immediate Blue Mage pick by slapping me with Red Mage and Geomancer right afterwards. 
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Journey of the Quadzerker: Part III Some easy bosses hit the deck...   A goofy laser got blow'd up real good...  Finished up W1 pretty quickly...     We met the best character in the game...   This guy is actually not a joke when quadzerking...  More "bosses"...   Have I mentioned how much I love Death Sickle?  Ironically I couldn't use my sickles for farming...  Galuf avoided getting sucked into an eldritch horror, I'm sure nothing else bad will happen to him...  Got super lucky with two Death procs...  This was a nail-biter. Thank you Reflect Rings!     Next time: Chopping down enemies in the Rift's forest.
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