|
Blitz7x posted:People are big dumb idiots and whenever I see that Stat about what % of Americans would be SOL with an unexpected expense of a thousand dollars I wonder how much of it is legit economic hardship and how much is terrible planning for the future Mostly the former. You don't get a lot of payday loan places in wealthy areas, and it's not because they are all budgeting fiends. You just have more wiggle room on a good salary. If a big, unexpected expense means "Cancel Disneyland this year" rather than "I guess we live in the car now" then life is a lot easier.
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 16:56 |
|
|
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/aclu-cops-dont-have-a-constitutional-right-to-rape-protesters/quote:The suit charges that an officer stuck a gloved finger into detainees’ rectums about an inch deep and then wiggled it around, yanked on their testicles without warning, barked commands not to flinch or resist–and laughed about it all the while with the other officers present as he “moved down the line” and then subjected four others to the sexually humiliating treatment. loving gross.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:57
|
|
|
DreamShipWrecked posted:The fact that the Democrats aren't going "look, all the GOP bills are poo poo, Single Payer now" while tensions and anxieties are high proves that they don't have any stones at all. Dumbshit Fairweather "leftists" in 2018: "The Democrats didn't pass single payer last year! They're all centrist tools and just as bad as the Republicans. I'm voting Jill Stein again." Evidence: All previous elections
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 17:59
|
|
|
Fulchrum posted:Well there's the answer for what the result is - anything the Dems give to them is treated as an insult and not good enough no matter what. The thing is that unless the elected Democrats actually work to enact the policies in the platform it really is just a joke. Oh and it's not like the Centrist "let" the left write the platform. that's the result of people getting active in the organization and doing exactly what the Centrists keep telling them to do which is engage and work within the system. The frustration comes from the fact even when they do that the Centrists continue to dismiss, deride and insult them. One of Obama's first moves was to pick Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of staff. A betrayal of the organized left that played a significant part in handing him victory (that the Centrist continue to dismiss despite continuing and mounting losses after that particular betrayal.). From here we got the Chief of Staff of the President we supported calling the collective netroots and leftist activists "loving Retards" and throwing us under the proverbial bus to try and gain support of the party who swore to do everything in their power to thwart the President's agenda. What of substance did the left get out of the Democratic Leadership in the form of legislative victories? Or hell even respect? The ACA was a half-assed measure and the left was screaming about the flaws the entire time. Where did the Blue Dog's and Centrists bend to compromise with the left? Now I don't blame Obama for the failures. He was working within the confines of the existing political power structure that is deeply entrenched with deep pockets. And as the first non white male President he had many more challenges to overcome than any President before him. The funny thing is that the left is used to losing, they could accept losing the battle, what demoralized them is that after all the effort, all the doing what the centrists told them to do the people that they helped elect didn't even put up a fight for progressive causes. They can't even blame the Republicans they had full control of the house and Senate and what legislation they did pass had zero Republican support and was achieved despite their obstruction. The political price the Centrist paid for loving over their leftist allies was loss of power because they alienated their most strident and active supporters. Say what you like about the "loony left" they are the ones with the passion. I mean really where is the passion behind with the Centrists? Yeah the left should have voted against Trump and the GOP regardless because the lesser of two evils is preferable. But why is it that the Centrists don't think that they should change at all? They want the leftists to support them but are unwilling to compromise and work with them. In the end it comes down to this, There is no soft right left, The Republican support comes from hard line nativists who are not reachable. The reason the left of the party is doing everything in their power to get the centrists to move to the left is that they know that and want to reach out to voters who have checked out of the process, not because they don't care but because they are unheard, because they don't believe that the Democrats will actually do things to help them. And the evidence strongly supports that belief. Human beings are not rational creatures, we're cave people with cell phones trying to navigate a modern reality with cognitive tools evolved to survive in a hunter gatherer civilization. So expecting rationality from us is well irrational, part of why the GOP have the solid base of support they have is what ever you can say about them (admittedly most of it bad) they are passionate. As for me, I'm trying to figure out ways to rabble rouse because I'm thinking that's what is needed. It would be really nice if my political "allies" would have my back rather than try stabbing me in it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:01
|
|
|
Taerkar posted:Dumbshit Fairweather "leftists" in 2018:
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:03
|
|
|
BarbarianElephant posted:Mostly the former. You don't get a lot of payday loan places in wealthy areas, and it's not because they are all budgeting fiends. You just have more wiggle room on a good salary. If a big, unexpected expense means "Cancel Disneyland this year" rather than "I guess we live in the car now" then life is a lot easier. on the other hand HENRYs . Can someone please post that gif, thanks in advance.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:04
|
|
|
Elotana posted:Chill out. It's possible, in fact, to criticize the Democrats without being a retarded Jill Stein voter. Not ten minutes ago in Condiv's thread: WampaLord posted:Yea, don't bother trying to argue in the Trump thread, apparently it's actually the Centrist thread and they just want to be outraged at Trump tweets instead of discussing the future and possible solutions. They're idiots.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:05
|
|
|
CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/aclu-cops-dont-have-a-constitutional-right-to-rape-protesters/ Those officers should be banned from holding federal positions for the rest of their natural lives. But, we have a Republican government so they'll just be given honors and put on the fast-track to chief.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:06
|
|
|
PhazonLink posted:on the other hand HENRYs . 
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:06
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:They're idiots. Way to poo poo stir for no real reason. I thought you all didn't want to talk about anything except Trump. gently caress you. e: VVV Well when I try to stay in the "contained" thread, apparently I get quoted over here, so gently caress me right? WampaLord fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jun 23, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:06
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:Not ten minutes ago in Condiv's thread: People discussing Trump... in the Trump thread? 
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:07
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:Not ten minutes ago in Condiv's thread: This has to be the least self-aware post in quite a while. Congrats, buddy.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:08
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:Way to poo poo stir for no real reason. I thought you all didn't want to talk about anything except Trump. And all you do is toss easy shibboleths back and forth the same way you've done since you were in high school. I've said before, there are leftists putting in real work for transformative change in this country, futile as it may be. You stupid fucks aren't among their number.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:08
|
|
|
RBA Starblade posted:Do you think the Dems who voted for Trump to spite Clinton or told anyone who'd listen to stay home regret it yet? They don't. The one person I always think of still likes to pull the "I'm above all these political teams, I'm smarter than everyone else. Truth is in the middle and I'm not voting for anything."
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:09
|
|
|
CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:Guillotine HENRYs thanks , also forgot about Henry The Dog, saving this for dog tax.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:09
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:And all you do is toss easy shibboleths back and forth the same way you've done since you were in high school. Hold on, scratch my last post, this is it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:10
|
|
|
Javes posted:I know he's poisoning the country with his terrible show but I really enjoy these clips of Alex Jones being insane. He's like Peaches Valentine in The Goon except a portion of the country thinks that pooping your diaper is what (((The Government))) doesn't want you to do.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:10
|
|
|
Ularg posted:They don't. The one person I always think of still likes to pull the "I'm above all these political teams, I'm smarter than everyone else. Truth is in the middle and I'm not voting for anything." Those people are the absolute worse and deserve to never have a happy moment again in their miserable existence.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:10
|
|
|
PhazonLink posted:thanks , also forgot about Henry The Dog, saving this for dog tax. Seriously, dog tax was repealed months ago.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:11
|
|
|
Taerkar posted:Dumbshit Fairweather "leftists" in 2018: Ah yes, the Democratic party, simultaneously completely broken and above reproach
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:11
|
|
|
 Yep, you nailed that one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:13
|
|
|
Isn't Heller saying he's a no a big deal? Perhaps I haven't had all traces of hope beaten out of me yet.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:14
|
|
|
Covok posted:Seriously, dog tax was repealed months ago. Leftists enjoy contributing for the greater good.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:14
|
|
|
Javes posted:Isn't Heller saying he's a no a big deal? Perhaps I haven't had all traces of hope beaten out of me yet. Did he have his presser yet today?
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:15
|
|
|
Covok posted:Seriously, dog tax was repealed months ago. loving fake leftists repealing taxes and wondering why we can't afford poo poo. Death by guillotine. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/878297957040234496
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:15
|
|
|
Javes posted:Isn't Heller saying he's a no a big deal? Perhaps I haven't had all traces of hope beaten out of me yet. He's only doing it because the party is letting him, which means they know they have the votes elsewhere.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:15
|
|
|
Javes posted:Isn't Heller saying he's a no a big deal? Perhaps I haven't had all traces of hope beaten out of me yet. I'm agnostic until the bill fails, then again while I haven't had all traces of hope beaten out of me, I generally just expect the worst outcome and that means I'm seldom disappointed.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:16
|
|
|
CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/aclu-cops-dont-have-a-constitutional-right-to-rape-protesters/ How the gently caress is it that weird lunatics always end up becoming cops? These dudes should be fired. Blitz7x posted:People are big dumb idiots and whenever I see that Stat about what % of Americans would be SOL with an unexpected expense of a thousand dollars I wonder how much of it is legit economic hardship and how much is terrible planning for the future It's a mix of both, honestly.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:16
|
|
|
^^^ The whole "I'm not going to get sick/hurt" mentality is as strong as it is stupid. The latest Russia report from WaPo just makes the likely answer to 'What won't the GOP do to preserve power?" get more and more disturbing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:17
|
|
|
Covok posted:Seriously, dog tax was repealed months ago. Unlike Republicans, I believe in Petr posted:Leftists enjoy contributing for the greater good. GOD drat IT
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:17
|
|
|
BarbarianElephant posted:Mostly the former. You don't get a lot of payday loan places in wealthy areas, and it's not because they are all budgeting fiends. You just have more wiggle room on a good salary. If a big, unexpected expense means "Cancel Disneyland this year" rather than "I guess we live in the car now" then life is a lot easier. If I have an emergency I have a number of family members or friends that could help me out too. Regardless of where my savings are at I could probably get $1000 in an hour or two if I really needed it. Poor people tend to mostly know other poor people, so that's not happening.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:18
|
|
|
BarbarianElephant posted:Mostly the former. You don't get a lot of payday loan places in wealthy areas, and it's not because they are all budgeting fiends. You just have more wiggle room on a good salary. If a big, unexpected expense means "Cancel Disneyland this year" rather than "I guess we live in the car now" then life is a lot easier. And at other end, not having much wiggle room means saving up is required to, say, be able to buy their kids a birthday present or simply decent clothes. If you are a parent, would you do the "responsible" thing of having some extra money for unexpected circumstances, and have your kid suffer immediate effects of poverty that much sharper?
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:18
|
|
|
Wealthier families also have more personal options for raising emergency funds
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:19
|
|
|
Blitz7x posted:People are big dumb idiots and whenever I see that Stat about what % of Americans would be SOL with an unexpected expense of a thousand dollars I wonder how much of it is legit economic hardship and how much is terrible planning for the future Partially both, although in my anecdotal experience a lot of people go "I fund my 401k, those are saving!", neglecting the fact that those are *long term* savings and won't help you if you break your leg tomorrow. E. This assuming they are middle class and have money they could theoretically save rather than sustinence working Also, people who are dead broke are more likely to spend their money immediately before it is gone because that is what they are used to. If you live paycheck to paycheck and get a sudden small windfall you aren't going to be throwing it in the bank because saving isn't what you do. That's why dead broke people sometimes have wide screen TVs. It's not a failing on their part as much as a lack of financial education and flexibility. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 23, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:19
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:And all you do is toss easy shibboleths back and forth the same way you've done since you were in high school. They don't care about incremental progress. they want their communism now, and if you don't give it to them, you deserve the guillotine. These people wonder why the DNC ignores them, and then they go vote for Jill Stein.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:22
|
|
|
Covok posted:Seriously, dog tax was repealed months ago. Dog tax provides better content than you do
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:23
|
|
|
Take it to the Democrat thread.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:23
|
|
|
speaking from personal experience, poor people try to save as much as they can, but at the same time it's mentally excruciating to try to subsist on 0 leisure funds. A lot of the time "I'l never get sick" really means "I can't afford to be sick, and I don't want to face that reality". You can't really be good with money if the only way you can be good with money relies on your children having no toys, never going out, never having any luxury items to leisure time, etc.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:24
|
|
|
If you don't like looking at doggos you're wrong.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 16:56 |
|
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:They don't care about incremental progress. they want their communism now, and if you don't give it to them, you deserve the guillotine. These people wonder why the DNC ignores them, and then they go vote for Jill Stein.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 18:27
|
|