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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Say Heller and Paul are hard Nos. If it comes down to Cruz would he have the nerve to take a giant poo poo on the GOP establishment and tank the entire thing? Because based on his reputation I'm pretty sure he might.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Real question is whether they vote no or hedge their bets by voting yes "with concerns"
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Shifty Pony posted:Insurance actuaries are probably all huddle together sobbing in a corner right now. Nah. ACA exchanges represent a small portion of private insurance business. They will literally just withdraw from the marketplace. It's like Venezuela telling merchants to sell products below cost. Eventually they just stop selling. ACA is a losing business for most insurers and barely a profit for others. It's worthwhile because it increases their overall member rolls and allows them to negotiate better deals. Also, it's a bitch dealing with state insurance commissioners and being in the exchange gives insurers a little leverage. But they'll only lose money for so long before they just ditch the system. Which is what most carriers were in the process of doing under Obamacare.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Who's that? Heller or Cruz? Heller
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HappyHippo posted:"it's going to be very difficult to get me to a yes" This had to be Heller, because for Cruz, all he needs is a bogle for his glotch.
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HappyHippo posted:"it's going to be very difficult to get me to a yes" So the usual $100,000 campaign donation from an anon slushfund SuperPAC is not enough?
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Is Portman still undecided with Ohio being one of the worst states in this opioid crises?
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Trabisnikof posted:Oh yeah it's not about getting tithes, it is all about showing up the rest of the congregation that I am the most blessed because I can drop $2000 on Mrs. Jones's chemo. So long as you've got your tiers set up right so I can flaunt that is. The Prosperity Gospel is incredibly unsettling. Some megachurches may fall into this category, some may not. Basically the two hues of conservative ideology that I think would conflict the most (ostentatious piety and reverence for great wealth) find a happy home together, no questions asked. Many other churches follow the exact same tenets but simply don't have the chutzpah to plainly say "If we are rich, it is simply because we are so holy." WashingtonPost op-ed on prosperity Gospel - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/prosperity-gospel.html e: Most televangelists are PG turds, a few have brick-and-mortar churches. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Koirhor posted:Is Portman still undecided with Ohio being one of the worst states in this opioid crises? He's one of the 12 guys in the room. He's a yes when they make a show of adding opoid stuff to it
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Trumps approval on the rebound, I hope Covok scooped out his pants since Tuesday and has room for a fresh load.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:Trumps approval on the rebound, I hope Covok scooped out his pants since Tuesday and has room for a fresh load. It is? 538 still has it around 38 percent...
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Yeah they set this up to give guys like Portman an amendment "win" that they can take home for opoid abuse.
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Eltoasto posted:Yeah they set this up to give guys like Portman an amendment "win" that they can take home for opoid abuse. Of course it only funds it for a year, after which the opiod crisis will have been eliminated.
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Spiritus Nox posted:It is? 538 still has it around 38 percent... All it takes is 1 outlying poll to make people lose their poo poo.
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Spiritus Nox posted:It is? 538 still has it around 38 percent... Clear your cache, breh 
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Trump is on the rebound because any poll that has Trump above the average of polls shows he is rebounding. Please ignore how this continues to be true no matter how low the average gets.
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Elotana posted:I think Cruz is the least likely of the four to have the nerve. Lee or Johnson very well might. Johnson hasn't put out specific public demands like Cruz has, just a general statement that they should start over. Unless he's given demands to McConnell privately, that's not really the kind of thing you can accommodate. What are you talking about? Cruz's whole ascent into the Senate happened because he dicked over the party and beat the former Lt. Governor in Texas for that position. Remember that time he did all that grand standing and oops let the Dems fill some vacancies? Cruz made his demands public to put pressure on Republicans to cave.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:Clear your cache, breh .1? Who gives a poo poo? Stop covoking, you baby! Shifty Pony posted:Insurance actuaries are probably all huddle together sobbing in a corner right now. loving lol. Dude, this bill was made to make insurers rich. I think they're doing fine. Probably rejoicing that they can charge 10x for less protection now.
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At what point do I just say gently caress it and cash in on wingnut welfare? I can write a dogwhistle screed or sell holy water.
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Covok posted:.1? Who gives a poo poo? Stop covoking, you baby! Only if they get approval for a waiver for the rates change! Checks and balances! note approval does not require legislative approval, only the governor.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:Clear your cache, breh Im the half-limp upward trend.
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KickerOfMice posted:The Prosperity Gospel is incredibly unsettling. Some megachurches may fall into this category, some may not. Basically the two hues of conservative ideology that I think would conflict the most (ostentatious piety and reverence for great wealth) find a happy home together, no questions asked. Many other churches follow the exact same tenets but simply don't have the chutzpah to plainly say "If we are rich, it is simply because we are so holy." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg
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Elotana posted:I think Cruz is the least likely of the four to have the nerve. Lee or Johnson very well might. Johnson hasn't put out specific public demands like Cruz has, just a general statement that they should start over. Unless he's given demands to McConnell privately, that's not really the kind of thing you can accommodate. I would say it's the opposite, Cruz's specific demands are somehow even more insane than the bill and basically impossible to satisfy, while vague demands give cover to say later that whatever token gesture they handed out was sufficient.
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Petr posted:At what point do I just say gently caress it and cash in on wingnut welfare? Invest in gofundme.
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I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to make medical bills non dischargeable through bankruptcy.
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Torpor posted:I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to make medical bills non dischargeable through bankruptcy. Guess what Rand Paul's pet bill he keeps trying to get passed does.
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Torpor posted:I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to make medical bills non dischargeable through bankruptcy. I have bad news for you my friend.
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Torpor posted:I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to make medical bills non dischargeable through bankruptcy. One step at a time. First we've gotta make sure that more people get sick because they can't afford preventative healthcare, then we make medical debt non-dischargable through bankruptcy, like student loans. Then once they absolutely have to seek medical care because they passed out in agony working their second job and were taken unconscious to a hospital without their knowledge or consent, that's when we bring back debtor's prisons. Invest in prison futures now people! The sky's the limit!
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Huge_Midget posted:One step at a time. First we've gotta make sure that more people get sick because they can't afford preventative healthcare, then we make medical debt non-dischargable through bankruptcy, like student loans. Then once they absolutely have to seek medical care because they passed out in agony working their second job and were taken unconscious to a hospital without their knowledge or consent, that's when we bring back debtor's prisons. Gotta get this economy moving again!!1! Seriously, does anyone know what people mean when they say this? It has looked like things have been going amazingly well for a while now. Can anyone decrypt this for me?
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Huge_Midget posted:One step at a time. First we've gotta make sure that more people get sick because they can't afford preventative healthcare, then we make medical debt non-dischargable through bankruptcy, like student loans. Then once they absolutely have to seek medical care because they passed out in agony working their second job and were taken unconscious to a hospital without their knowledge or consent, that's when we bring back debtor's prisons. Don't forget the ever-rising costs of hospital visits and medication due to a lack of oversights or regulation, so that when you get tetanus from the horrible working conditions of your second job the antibiotics will cost fifteen years' salary. Huzanko posted:Gotta get this economy moving again!!1! I mean vital medication has been spiking like crazy and no one can afford to go to the doctor without healthcare so... Epipens alone have spiked in cost by six hundred percent in ten years. Hope your kid doesn't have a bee allergy if you can't afford a 600 dollar injector. Minimum wage is 15k per year. Even simply injuries can cost 5-10k without insurance. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Don't forget the ever-rising costs of hospital visits and medication due to a lack of oversights or regulation, so that when you get tetanus from the horrible working conditions of your second job the antibiotics will cost fifteen years' salary. Heh but that's how much it is worth to you; so clearly a fair price.
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Torpor posted:I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to make medical bills non dischargeable through bankruptcy. Medical liens can already gently caress you up pretty bad.
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Eh lets just have debtors prisons for those who get better and can't afford their medical bills.
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I did it. I found what might be the most depressing video on the internet https://www.facebook.com/guyhumorofficial/videos/300325783745839/ There is no angle to it that doesn't crush my soul.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Don't forget the ever-rising costs of hospital visits and medication due to a lack of oversights or regulation, so that when you get tetanus from the horrible working conditions of your second job the antibiotics will cost fifteen years' salary. There's finally a generic EpiPen out now (made by the same loving company) for slightly less! Asthma inhalers and diabetic supplies/insulin are probably the worst commonly used medications with regard to price gouging over time. Drug prices are a perfectly obscured transaction between your insurance, PBM and the drug manufacturer. Who is profiting how much is entirely unknown, but it's always the patient who gets screwed in the end.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Don't forget the ever-rising costs of hospital visits and medication due to a lack of oversights or regulation, so that when you get tetanus from the horrible working conditions of your second job the antibiotics will cost fifteen years' salary. Albuterol, one of the oldest asthma medicines, typically costs $50 to $100 per inhaler in the United States UK price, £8.50 ($10.82). You guys need loving regulations like a motherfucker.
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