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unseenlibrarian posted:Or, in game literally inspired by EVA, the devs going "What, no, you can't play a human-alien hybrid psychic piloting a monstrous living mecha, they're all teenagers so can't be in the military" Which is funny, because you'd think people with a massive hardon for being edgelords would be all over having child soldiers.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Also magic was amusingly terrible and the Dreamlands were nuked for no reason. Those are two related issues, which all lead back to the central problem: The creators wanted to make a mega-evil hyper-rape game, and just slapped some Cthulhu stuff on their fairly generic anime future game but for adults. So there can't be any Dreamlands, because the Dreamlands are a place where humanity is empowered and things are relatively hopeful in comparison. Same reason eldritch beings beyond the ken of man are leading generically evil rape cults. Because that's eeeeeeevil and that's what the game is about. Literally the only purpose of the Mythos in the game is Western brand recognition. Like hey, here's Arkham. Ok now it's blown up so we can go play in our areas. Needless to say nothing good happens when you take a brand name and slap it on some try hard bullshit to try to give it legitimacy. Not that that applies to anything in this thread.
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Hostile V posted:The only thing that's remotely enjoyable about CTech is they thought, in planning, "alright, we're gonna have tiers of scale like Unknown Armies or Warhammer/40K. We're gonna have the ability to play ground games, to play magic focused-games, to play Guyver-focused games, to play mecha-focused games. And people will like being able to play different levels of games". But they didn't, uh, put those rules in there and their release schedule never really made that entirely coherent or explicit.
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CTech might've faded into more obscurity but it was a really nicely produced book for the time, I remember liking the art in the core...and then steadily being turned off by the text. I never even got into the supplements. Basically it presented a relatively novel premise combining two popular things (which it completely failed to stick) and wrapped it up all pretty. Someone eventually bought the book from me for slightly more than I paid for it so win I guess.
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Hostile V posted:Which leads to the best part of CTech: making the creators very sad and annoyed by asking them "hey so can my Guyver pilot an Eva?" "No. No they cannot." "The rules don't say they can't!" "gently caress you, don't you do that with my product!" That and being able to just buy and field mecha at a ground-game level, trivializing everything and annoying the creators further. Being able to say "gently caress your rapey club scene story line, i'm literally blowing the roof off this place." with the truck sized assault rifle of a five story tall giant robot is pretty freaking hysterical. Really, the devs should have anticipated that. Any time you create the option to engage in different levels of play at different tiers of power like that you'll inevitably have someone try to scheme up a way to engage in the tabletop equivalent of asymmetric warfare. Archonex fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Rereading the books every time I run a game for a template I haven't touched in a while was a really good idea. I'm setting up a Task Force: VALKYRIE game right now and thought I had everything planned out but I'm getting a lot of good ideas for little sub-plots now that I'm refreshing myself with the Hunter book. The biggest example would be including Network Zero as an antagonist harping on about "freedom of information" and outing the identities and locations of the party and generally making undercover work very difficult.
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Jun 20, 2017 22:26
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Ah, so that's how Tupac could put all those dots into Performance!
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Wow V5 looks like a hot pile of mechanical garbage. They've brought back 'penalties can either come in dice pool maluses or an increase to the required number of successes and we're not going to tell you which is which' in force. Additionally, the baseline for a 'Challenging' roll, which is only halfway up the difficulty chart, requires you to get five successes. Successes on a 6+ and an absolute hard dice cap if you minmax like an absolute oval office, have 5 in a stat, 5 in a skill and a specialty in each is 12 dice so 6 successes on average. Feeding rolls in that scenario are Difficulty 4 and 5. You need to have stats as spiky as an Exalted 2E character to have even a vague hope of sometimes passing reasonably difficult rolls with that ruleset.
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Well, you ARE allowed to Succeed At A Cost if you roll exactly one success fewer than required, so there's that.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:36
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which one of you is this
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crime fighting hog posted:which one of you is this  Feel old yet?
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According to his brother's Facebook page, Stewart Wieck died today.
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Kurieg posted:According to his brother's Facebook page, Stewart Wieck died today. Aw dude, what the gently caress. He was pretty young, in the scheme of things. That blows. My condolences to his friends and family.
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He was posting on twitter just yesterday, one of his friends tweeted that he died shortly after fencing practice.
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Did they say if that was related? Jesus, he was only 49.
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I've got no idea. I imagine we'll find out more this weekend/monday. https://twitter.com/TheOnyxPath/status/878459431893303296
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The other thing that CthulhuTech ripped off was Macross; the weird night-elf mi-go people were pretty much exactly Zentradi without any of the charm or unique abilities of "being thirty feet tall." It would be pretty tight to have Zentradi fight the Mythos, honestly.
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Presented without comment, one of the PCs from that really high powered oWoD game I was in a couple of years ago, whose stats I found on Obsidian Portal just now. oWoD is loving crazy, yo.quote:Dr Ione Kepke
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Is that a Camarilla Justicar? For some reason, on top of that giant pile of numbers "Herd 1" strikes me as really amusing.
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Thousand Years of Night seems pretty okay, I'm glad it wasn't just a list of "Disciplines, but MOAR".
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Spector29 posted:Thousand Years of Night seems pretty okay, I'm glad it wasn't just a list of "Disciplines, but MOAR". Most of it is excellent, but about half of the final chapter is absolutely dogshit.
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Doodmons posted:Presented without comment, one of the PCs from that really high powered oWoD game I was in a couple of years ago, whose stats I found on Obsidian Portal just now. oWoD is loving crazy, yo. It's good that he only has Technology 1. That kind of flaw really makes a character more interesting.
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Phil Brucato gets a lot of (largely deserved) flack, but he had some good things to say about Stewart Wieck.
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Doodmons posted:Presented without comment, one of the PCs from that really high powered oWoD game I was in a couple of years ago, whose stats I found on Obsidian Portal just now. oWoD is loving crazy, yo. His visscisitude is higher than his generation allows.
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:Is that a Camarilla Justicar? Yeah. That game was weird.
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Magnusth posted:His visscisitude is higher than his generation allows. Yeah, he got Vicissitude 9 off of a demon deal with Kupala. The only character in the party who made it to 9 dots in a Discipline. This is the same character who managed to kill the Ventrue Antediluvean by baiting him into punching Kepke in the face, leading to Ventrue getting sprayed with like a hundred litres of high-pressure poisoned acid blood and melting like the Wicked Witch of the West. Kepke survived with a single health box not full of aggravated damage thanks to a lucky fortitude roll. The rest of the player party can largely be summarised as: 1) 'How many times can we write the word 'Thaumaturgy' on one sheet? (a whole lot) 2) 'Weapon of choice: Seven thousand eight hundred shadow tentacles (we rolled them out once). Plus Abyss Mysticism and Assamite Sorcery.' 3) 'Why did anyone let the fifth-gen Malkavian get his hands on elder level Temporis?'
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Are there fast rules for tear gas in any of the books? I'm away from my apartment and trying to type up some notes for tonight's session and can't remember!
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Mors Rattus posted:Most of it is excellent, but about half of the final chapter is absolutely dogshit.
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crime fighting hog posted:Are there fast rules for tear gas in any of the books? I'm away from my apartment and trying to type up some notes for tonight's session and can't remember! Which edition? For nWoD that'd be a pretty standard environmental tilt. Perception / roll penalties and probably modest bashing damage to account for respiratory problems
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Basic Chunnel posted:Which edition? For nWoD that'd be a pretty standard environmental tilt. Perception / roll penalties and probably modest bashing damage to account for respiratory problems That's what I'm going with. Thanks! The God Machine is going to send some goons to capture the egghead my Hunters are using to learn how to kill the monster they saw last session. Tear canisters launched into the church through stained glass as shaved head goons with SMGs storm the abbey. It's gonna own.
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Dammit Who? posted:Ah, so that's how Tupac could put all those dots into Performance! LOL.
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We had our first dramatic failure last night. Our socialite hipster character got busted at the scene of a bombing and was arrested, led out to a police car in full view of national media who is now blasting him as a suspect (he's not). Then he rolled insanely well to pick his handcuffs with a bobbypin from his whiteboy dreads and kicked out the copcar window to escape and meet back up with the other hunters. I love this game.
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Dammit Who? posted:Ah, so that's how Tupac could put all those dots into Performance! I've been trying to figure this out and I'm stumped. Can someone explain the joke?
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No Phone was a favourite flaw for min/maxers in the oWoD.
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Oh, huh, I don't remember that at all.
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:Oh, huh, I don't remember that at all.
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Nah, it was "better" than that. It wasn't like you were technophobic or had an anti-phone aura or something. You could 100% take the Flaw and then go out and buy a phone in the first session.
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The people I knew who did allow the stupid thing also ruled that if you wanted to buy a phone you had to buy off the flaw first. Don't know if that's better or worse, honestly.
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I had completely blocked off that, but yes, I did have a min-maxing player with that flaw the first time I ran a game. It was not allowed ever again.
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As I recall, that flaw was first shown in Demon, wasn't it? Which was a mechanical mess in so many ways.
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