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Genos is a bit of a glass cannon. In terms of pure destructive power he's closer to the top of S I think.
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It's kind of dumb to argue about power levels in this particular Japanese comic book.
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Jun 23, 2017 06:43
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Work Friend Keven posted:It's kind of dumb to argue about power levels in this particular Japanese comic book. Nah, they have a pretty good bit about what the S class is all about and why it is the way it is, and it actually reflects pretty well on the Hero Association as a whole.
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Jun 23, 2017 07:06
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outside of a couple extreme circumstances heroes are generally put in at least the letter rank they deserve.
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Jun 23, 2017 08:51
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Regardless of how strong he is, Genos is a good kid. Even Sneck is a good guy underneath it all, too.
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Jun 23, 2017 09:29
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watchdogman contains the properties of both watch and dog
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Jun 23, 2017 13:43
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Is there some relevance to watchdogman guarding Q-city? Some dumb japanese pun?
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Jun 23, 2017 13:49
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He's a dog that protects his territory? He's a guard dog.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:51
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Kild posted:Sneck is Rank 37... You're saying Genos is as strong as him? No way. Pri Pri is an S-rank that lost to Sea King and Genos was holding his own until he protected the kid. Oh no, I'm not saying that. I just don't remember how ranks work and thought that A-rank started at 100. I still think Genos is generally overestimated by the Hero Association since he can't reliably be sent out to end fights though. But then again, Tank Top Master's still in so y'know, it's whatever.
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Jun 23, 2017 14:59
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RareAcumen posted:Oh no, I'm not saying that. I just don't remember how ranks work and thought that A-rank started at 100. I still think Genos is generally overestimated by the Hero Association since he can't reliably be sent out to end fights though. But then again, Tank Top Master's still in so y'know, it's whatever. Genos is as reliable as anyone in the S class other than maybe Tornado in ending threats. We're just reading about all the times when he had to Worf Out to build the cred for some new monster before the strongest being in the history of the universe killed it with one hit.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:23
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:He's a dog that protects his territory? I meant Q-city specifically.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:29
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It's a def ar reference to Hachiko, a famous dog that waited by the station for it's master to return from the hospital for nine years after his master's death. iirc Garou finds Watchdogman by waiting by his famous observation platform in Q- City. Hachiko has a bronze statue of himself up in Shibuya. They're also both good and faithful dogs Genos is very powerful, he's just 18 and completely ignores any kind of defense. Part of me thinks he probably would've beaten the Sea King if he didn't sacrifice himself. But also Genos is two notches below Watchdogman so the S-Class ranking scale is all kinds of hosed up, but Genos is def S-Class. really great chapter, I can't believe the watchdogman joke keeps getting better. I was really frustrated with Saitama this chapter, but mostly for just how I've exactly been there, the whole "I'm incredibly unhappy with my life right now, but also doing anything to fix it sounds like an utter chore"
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Jun 23, 2017 15:44
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Goddammit, now I'm doing it. Stupid theory: Watchdog Man went through the same poo poo Saitama did (I am become too powerful, life is boring), and decided that because he couldn't get a good fight, he'd just choose a gimmick at random and throw himself wholeheartedly into it as a means to keep himself occupied.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:54
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Why does everyone remember Genos as being younger than he is? I saw someone think he was 16-17, now 18. He's 19, he mentions this early on. He might be 20 at this point.
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Jun 23, 2017 15:56
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that was me both times. who can say how old a cyborg is. is genos even human anymore? are any of us?
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Jun 23, 2017 16:04
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Maybe they're confusing Genos' age with his rank.
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Jun 23, 2017 16:18
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I think there is a gif of a Shiba Inu whose master is doing something obnoxious and the doge just puts its paw on their hand firmly to make them stop. That's what the watchdog man fight reminded me of.
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Jun 23, 2017 17:00
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I have an akita and she does the paw thing when I'm gonna give her a bath It's really pathetic and makes me feel bad 
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Fellis posted:I think there is a gif of a Shiba Inu whose master is doing something obnoxious and the doge just puts its paw on their hand firmly to make them stop. That's what the watchdog man fight reminded me of. I don't know about annoying, but this is a very good dog with a cape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4oQ-0ZBFDM And More fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Jun 23, 2017 18:06
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I love how King pulled the same thing Saitama did to Genos, and basically quoted some manga to sound like they were being very deep and learned.
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Jun 23, 2017 18:42
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RedMagus posted:I love how King pulled the same thing Saitama did to Genos, and basically quoted some manga to sound like they were being very deep and learned. Birds of a feather...
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Jun 23, 2017 18:54
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You know a series is good when it can have a super strong and good chapter consisting mostly of two knuckleheads shooting the poo poo. Also the dog was extremely good.
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Jun 23, 2017 20:34
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Keeshhound posted:Goddammit, now I'm doing it. Isn't it fun?! Now whenever something new comes in you'll enjoy it and think "hmmm how does watchdog man fit into all this?"
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Jun 23, 2017 20:49
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Moltrey posted:that was me both times. Don't feel too bad, I read discussions off these boards too and they also get it wrong. But you know, Internet.
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Jun 23, 2017 21:26
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Donkringel posted:Isn't it fun?! Nope, I'm over it now. Wouldn't mind seeing more shake-fu, though.
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Jun 23, 2017 21:40
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And More posted:I don't know about annoying, but this is a very good dog with a cape: Hey thanks! It wasn't that video but it was that account. I think the specific one I was thinking of was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoWAM0jhT0 It's basically that fight but instead of punching its kissing
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Jun 24, 2017 03:34
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RedMagus posted:I love how King pulled the same thing Saitama did to Genos, and basically quoted some manga to sound like they were being very deep and learned. I have learned all of my life lessons from the infinite wisdom given to me by Japanese Manga.
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Jun 24, 2017 05:41
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Moltrey posted:It's a def ar reference to Hachiko, a famous dog that waited by the station for it's master to return from the hospital for nine years after his master's death. iirc Garou finds Watchdogman by waiting by his famous observation platform in Q- City. Hachiko has a bronze statue of himself up in Shibuya. They're also both good and faithful dogs I'm pretty sure ONE confirmed that Genos would have won against Sea King if he hadn't gotten the acid.
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This whole argument is bordering on silly because King is an S class hero who should NOT be even a hero. This is because the Hero Association is terrible at properly classifying not only monster threats but hero strengths.
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Jun 24, 2017 07:36
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Suspicious Lump posted:This whole argument is boring on silly because King is an S class hero who should NOT be even a hero. This is because the Hero Association is terrible at properly classifying not only monster threats but hero strengths. You take that back..
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Kild posted:You take that back.. Yeah. Seems pretty crazy to say the guy who took down Vaccine Man isn't S rank material, you know?
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Jun 24, 2017 08:52
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They might be really incompetent at picking good heroes from bad ones (Sweet Amai Mask, Blizzard etc) but they still nailed Genos rank in the association. Mainly because other heroes are just that much weaker than him. The problem is that we're only shown fights he has where Saitama has to clean up for him, so he gives an impression of being, as someone else said here, a glass cannon. When he is really anything but that.
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i think the idea is that the hero association's grading is fairly accurate at least 80% of the time or so. but when you have a really obvious outlier like saitama or king, the system has no way of correcting itself at all or accommodating for individuals who don't perfectly fit their somewhat rigid criteria for heroes (saitama just barely made it into C rank, despite making a records shattering score on the physical exam. his outstanding physical exam wasn't considered as any better than genos' by the grading system, despite the hilarious difference in strength between them). if you're not making perfect scores on half the exam, the system probably works out mostly ok.
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You can't really blame the HA. They cannot be expected to calibrate their tests to accurately measure the power of the Strongest Man on Earth. Say they do that and a bunch of A-C class heroes don't even rank because you're weighted towards "strongest man on earth".
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Plus, I kind of assumed the written test Saitama failed on was stuff like first aid, evacuation procedures, how to find Sea King without stealing Mumen Rider's phone... Saitama is a good punchman, but as we keep seeing, there's more to being a hero than punches.
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Jun 24, 2017 11:32
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king is stronger than saitama but it was boring so he stopped
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Jun 24, 2017 11:47
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Elfface posted:Plus, I kind of assumed the written test Saitama failed on was stuff like first aid, evacuation procedures, how to find Sea King without stealing Mumen Rider's phone... I thought it was stuff like "a villain is holding a hostage at gunpoint. How do you handle this situation?" And saitama's answer was "just punch him before he can shoot." Which rightfully should raise some red flags about any hero that isn't saitama. I don't remember if there was much info at all about the content about the written exam, other than "saitama definitely doesn't care enough or have thought about this enough to get a good score" I think generally the issue is less "heroes are often not placed where they should be," and more "when a hero DOES get misplaced, the system just shrugs and says 'eat poo poo nerd'" "Some dude did great on the physical exam but doesn't know the first thing about being a hero, better stick him in C and see what happens" sounds reasonable until you actually look at saitama, who shattered the gym the exam took place in and still got put in C, and despite being a known part of preventing multiple major disasters (the meteor, sea king, I don't remember if the HA knows that he was there for boros) the general assumption is "oh, this low ranker just happened to be nearby when some S ranks took care of the problem. Give him a couple points for being able to stay alive, I guess." The system just stops functioning correctly when someone is misplaced to that degree. I guess he's rising slowly, so theoretically he Eventually gets put where he deserves, but who knows how long that could take.
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My crackpot nanomachines theory is that Watchdogman is the brain of a dog placed in the body of a human that has been dressed up in a dog suit. Dogs see human beings as basically gods, so when the dog brain realized it was in a human body, it realized that it was all-powerful, but because it is A Good Dog, it did not become corrupted by that strength. Also he fights by being A Good Dog Who Does Tricks. Genos is the concept of Japanese guilt about abandoning the younger generation to try to find meaning through flashy but ultimately fragile and insubstantial technological baubles, or he is a lizard.
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Jun 24, 2017 16:48
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Genos frequently has limbs removed only to have them grow back later. The lizard theory checks out.
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My theory is that watchdogman is a guy in a dog suit.
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