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Agnosticnixie posted:There is an extremely strong difference between people who are there because of active, violent colonization and people who are there because of immigration and this is the kind of stupid equivocation that ends up carrying water for zionist expansion and rhodesian nostalgia as though they were value neutral immigrants. they're not there becaus eof active colonization you fuckin idiot
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pener where should you be moving back to since you're american and clearly believe you shouldn't be there?
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i think we should all stop speaking english since its a result of colonization
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:the ego pill is also a spook  
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Siaradwch Cymraeg neu 
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Baron Corbyn posted:Siaradwch Cymraeg neu how many generations do you go back and can you prove the english didn't move to wales at some point in your ancestors past?
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Yinlock posted:no most nationalism is just seeing yourself as Better because you're from Place, and being from Place is an innate measure of worth What about nationalism that's like, caring more about your nation than other ones because its your nation?
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Terror Sweat posted:Here's my Irish story, my friend almost got his rear end kicked when he was in Dublin cause he was in a bar and ordered an Irish car bomb so did he get the drink?
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Yinlock posted:no most nationalism is just seeing yourself as Better because you're from Place, and being from Place is an innate measure of worth It's actually far more than this. It's a claim on power and loyalty, deployed for a variety of purposes by a wide range of actors, some more sympathetic than others. All you're saying here is that you're better than people who hold bag wrong opinions and that they are automatically diseased vermin for not having the correct opinions. It's an opinion which can only be held by someone who wants credit on the basis of holding the correct ideology but doesn't understand it or how it relates to that of others.
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hakimashou posted:What about nationalism that's like, caring more about your nation than other ones because its your nation? that's what used to be called patriotism citation: Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism"
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nationalism & patriotism are both bad
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Jose posted:pener where should you be moving back to since you're american and clearly believe you shouldn't be there? Pener Kropoopkin posted:Americans are only considered "natives" now because we exterminated enough indigenous people that they can no longer make meaningful protests about our hegemony. White settlers sure as Hell never adopted native customs, religions, or languages. If Protestants wanted to be considered native to the island, their ancestors should have murdered a lot more Catholics. Kinda weird to privilege that sort of thing.
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exmarx posted:nationalism & patriotism are both bad What's wrong with patriotism?
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hakimashou posted:What's wrong with patriotism? america
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exmarx posted:nationalism & patriotism are both bad no they are good your just a huge cuck
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Jose posted:america How we screwed up the germans and japanese plans and then the soviet empire?
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Jun 26, 2017 08:50
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je voudrais pouvoir aimer mon pays tout en aimant la justice !!!
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then the EU empire.... then the chinese empire
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justice doesn't exist unless strong men pretend.
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this thread should probably be closed now that the election is over having regional politics thread is a dnd thing, not a cspam thing
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Baloogan posted:justice doesn't exist unless strong men pretend.
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rudatron posted:this thread should probably be closed now that the election is over
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justice had to be invented by interpreting god's will
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rudatron posted:this thread should probably be closed now that the election is over time to close the suck zone and trump threads then
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Jose posted:how many generations do you go back and can you prove the english didn't move to wales at some point in your ancestors past? according to the rules established in this thread, as the English didn't manage to wipe out our culture, I'm morally allowed to car bomb you until you leave or assimilate like whatever English ancestors I may have had did. Better start working on your pronunciation of the 'll' sound, boyo.
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i live in my ancestral place so you can gently caress off with your stupid language imo
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As my ancestors were potato famine refugees on one side, am I more or less Irish than the ulstermen do you think?
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The british election isn't going to be over for like a year lol. Britain is an A++ source of political entertainment for the foreseeable future.
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rudatron posted:this thread should probably be closed now that the election is over I wouldn't be too sure about that
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jBrereton posted:As my ancestors were potato famine refugees on one side, am I more or less Irish than the ulstermen do you think? were they colonists though
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Baloogan posted:justice had to be invented by interpreting god's will subjective preferences exist regardless of the capability of the agent, and inter-subjective notions of human beings like 'justice' are a consequence of shared thoughts and feelings
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why are europeans so loving petty you're all losers, deal with it
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Jose posted:were they colonists though
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jBrereton posted:Christ who knows, I doubt it. i don't think we can take that chance. fortuantely you're no longer in ireland so its ok
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KomradeX posted:He's saying that beimg against Israeli Apartheid means your antisemite and Europe hates Jews. You will not covince him otherwise drat he really is one of the classic ultra-Zionists. I haven't seen any of them for a little while.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Western Europe and Britain in particular obviously, were extremely cool with Palestine from its formation to a few decades ago when they started violating international law, and even after that it's taken a long time for opinion to shift. There's no reversion to the mean there, it's just been a steady decline. Oh and I meant to say Israel in this post, not Palestine, but I think everybody got it.
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rudatron posted:that directly contradicts what you said before, but it's also still wrong D&D style gotcha fake news "journalism"
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Baloogan posted:justice had to be invented by interpreting god's will You are truly the ultimate cuck.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Oh and I meant to say Israel in this post, not Palestine, but I think everybody got it.
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jBrereton posted:The British were extremely not that cool with Israel's foundation and didn't vote for it at the UN; well, hope that helps. They still basically created it and there was only a short period right after WWII where the two were unfriendly.
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