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ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Hey hey hey, so the past week was nuts, seeing as I'm, well... going on vacation for a bit. A week in Connecticut and a week in Cancun, my job is probably not thrilled but hey, whatcha gonna do, neither one was planned by me.

Anyway, FUN FACT: June 20, 2011 was the date our very first video (a Sonic 1 longplay later split into parts for YouTube) was uploaded, and June 20, 2016 was the day we started the Super Sonic Let's Play in celebration of our first upload's fifth anniversary. So it felt appropriate that on that same day in 2017 (last Tuesday), we would hit the halfway mark in Sonic Adventure (3 stories completed out of 6), which is itself the midpoint game in our Sonic lineup (42nd game out of 83), so what I'm doing over this next two weeks is... taking a break. We couldn't get enough recorded and edited ahead of time, and I'm burned out like crazy, so The Super Sonic Let's Play will return on Monday, July 10 with the start of Amy's story!

Weirdly enough, that same night as we celebrated six years and 3,000 subscribers with a live hangout and a game of Quiplash, we hit 40,000 views on our Michael Jackson video. Hell yeah! I was planning to release a sort of spiritual successor on the 23rd, but I think I'll keep working on it and put it up when it his 50,000.

In the meantime, here is Knuckles' story. I'm amazed I got WiFi out here.

Part 18: "Punch You with My Flight"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg9MlXYR9Mg

Part 19: "Three loving Tiles"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oETOg_I47v4

Part 20: "Bush Bouncing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3surq5tMazw

Part 21: "Astro Man's Bedroom"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o0AzEf62Ng

Part 22: "Sometimes He Punches"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-wU9zSdyoQ

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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
How can your vacations not have been planned by you, anyway?

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
First one's an annual lake cottage thing my girlfriend's parents do, tends to fall right on/around Father's Day -- other one is a big group trip to Mexico my best friend and his wife put together (we went down for his 30th birthday last spring and had a blast, apparently going during the hottest part of the year was the reasonable follow-up).

I'm pumped for both (currently sitting with my feet in the water right now) but I would kinda rather have spread them out a bit.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
WE'RE BACK! Sonic Adventure is no longer on hiatus, and we're getting back into the swing of things with Amy's story. We figured giving the pink character with a hammer to Lindsay would be a fun idea... it might not have been. BUT, I can say (in my opinion at least) that the Amy storyline commentary gets better as it goes. It does start a little rough though, fair warning.

Part 23: "Face Bones"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxaMnErzjUo

Part 24: "Push the Sexual Button"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Ax-C9zETA

Part 25: "Gameless Aimplay"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HxL9RcMF5E

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
...I genuinely did not remember Amy's story being so short. Three levels and one boss battle? Geez, I feel like a speedrunner could get through the whole thing in one episode.

Part 26: "Gamma Rho Oopsilon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXs-lyRKpy8

Part 27: "Did She Learn from Birds?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxkWXjpBlM

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
You probably remember Amy's story being longer because of Hedgehog Hammer.

Also yeah, Amy's is super short, Big is only a few levels but they take forever, and E-102r has a bunch of levels but you blast through them because the clock is trying to kill you worse than NiGHTS.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Well at least it means we're all the closer to just shooting up what's left of the game. Fantastic catharsis. In the meantime...

Part 28: "Not a Lot of Action"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqVeiP8uA7A

God save us.

Brutal Garcon
Nov 2, 2014



It begins.

Also: aagh! Where's that sprite from?

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Dzhay posted:

It begins.

Also: aagh! Where's that sprite from?

If you're talking about Big I'm pretty sure that's a fan creation as he's never appeared in a 2D Sonic game (aside from a cutscene in the DS version of Sonic Colors at least).

Speaking of which, once you guys reach that point will you be playing both the console and handheld versions of Colors, Generations and Lost World or just the console version?

Finally, assuming one of you has a Dreamcast you'll be suffering through Sonic Shuffle once Adventure is over (think Mario Party, only without any sense of fun or logic) so how are you going to handle that? Will you be trying the story mode or just do a multiplayer match?

Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Jul 19, 2017

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Larryb posted:

If you're talking about Big I'm pretty sure that's a fan creation as he's never appeared in a 2D Sonic game (aside from a cutscene in the DS version of Sonic Colors at least).

Speaking of which, once you guys reach that point will you be playing both the console and handheld versions of Colors, Generations and Lost World or just the console version?

Finally, assuming one of you has a Dreamcast you'll be suffering through Sonic Shuffle once Adventure is over (think Mario Party, only without any sense of fun or logic) so how are you going to handle that? Will you be trying the story mode or just do a multiplayer match?

That would require them to have 4 dreamcast controllers, which I think is actually impossible.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Kurieg posted:

That would require them to have 4 dreamcast controllers, which I think is actually impossible.

I think you can do 2 players vs 2 computer controlled characters but I'm not 100% on that. Sonic Shuffle is one of only 2 Sonic games that I've actively avoided playing for myself (the other being Sonic Free Riders).

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Larryb posted:

I'm pretty sure you can do 2 players vs 2 computer controlled characters but I'm not sure. Sonic Shuffle is one of only 2 Sonic games that I've actively avoided playing for myself (the other being Sonic Free Riders).

You can, but the computer cheats like a motherfucker. it can see your cards at all times, even if you shuffle them.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Kurieg posted:

You can, but the computer cheats like a motherfucker. it can see your cards at all times, even if you shuffle them.

Which I believe happens in Story Mode too so yeah, good luck with that one.

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.

Larryb posted:

I think you can do 2 players vs 2 computer controlled characters but I'm not 100% on that. Sonic Shuffle is one of only 2 Sonic games that I've actively avoided playing for myself (the other being Sonic Free Riders).

I drat near 100%'d Sonic Shuffle, I think I'm only missing like two mini event scenarios.

The biggest issue with Shuffle's multiplayer isn't the controllers, but the need for VMUs for each player. You can't see your cards on the TV screen unless you're playing single player. And they may decide to emulate anyway, in which case I don't even know if that makes VMU screens an option or not.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Dzhay posted:

aagh! Where's that sprite from?

Custom sprite! I'll have to look it up again to properly credit the original sprite artist, but yeah, Big is almost nonexistent in 2D and nothing official approximates the Genesis style.

Larryb posted:

Speaking of which, once you guys reach that point will you be playing both the console and handheld versions of Colors, Generations and Lost World or just the console version?

For games where there is a considerable difference between the two, such as different levels or gameplay, we will play both. ...I think that means all three, actually.

Larryb posted:

Finally, assuming one of you has a Dreamcast you'll be suffering through Sonic Shuffle once Adventure is over (think Mario Party, only without any sense of fun or logic) so how are you going to handle that? Will you be trying the story mode or just do a multiplayer match?

I think we'll do what we did with other "competition" style games in Mega Man and go with both -- starting with the Story Mode, then closing with a multiplayer round.

How we'll do that, we're still sorting out. In the meantime, let's get back to the best dingin' dang story in the game, right??? (help)

Part 29: "Why Is There a Whole Level?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSkBdjYmtRY

Part 30: "Wolfenvania Castlestein"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPswLLPskx8

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.

ricdesi posted:

For games where there is a considerable difference between the two, such as different levels or gameplay, we will play both. ...I think that means all three, actually.

Also add Unleashed to the list, the PS2/Wii version is different from the PS360 version. It'll be fun to see which one pisses you off more.

FishOnAPiano
Oct 9, 2012

Dresh posted:

Also add Unleashed to the list, the PS2/Wii version is different from the PS360 version. It'll be fun to see which one pisses you off more.

That's the one I've been wondering which version they'll go for for; The PS360 adds so much to the hoggery gameplay... but then it goes and stretches that out to a ridiculous length (hah) so all that gets lost in "ugh, more of this?". Doing both seems like a bit much, but if you do, good luck guys!

FishOnAPiano fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 20, 2017

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Yeah, as someone who's played and beaten both games, You can safely ignore the Wii version of unleashed, everything salvageable about Wiileashed is in Colors.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Kurieg posted:

Yeah, as someone who's played and beaten both games, You can safely ignore the Wii version of unleashed, everything salvageable about Wiileashed is in Colors.

To be fair to the Wii version I liked that there wasn't any forced medal collecting, extra lives were permanent (which means they were only available in certain optional areas), and the final boss fight was handled a little better. A shame the rest sucks though.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Urf, gonna be a lot of repetition then. Gonna be a tough sell to John too, I can already tell.

Let's end this Big story with a BANG.

Part 31: "Fat Magic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGEp8cFRDa0

Part 32: "The Grossest Money Shot I've Ever Seen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oosdyGchJtg

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

ricdesi posted:

Urf, gonna be a lot of repetition then. Gonna be a tough sell to John too, I can already tell.

Let's end this Big story with a BANG.

Part 31: "Fat Magic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGEp8cFRDa0

Part 32: "The Grossest Money Shot I've Ever Seen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oosdyGchJtg

Yeah, if this is the route you're going down then with the exception of Black Knight, you'll technically be playing through every game from Unleashed onward twice (I suppose if you want to break up the monotony you could play both versions simultaneously in alternating videos or something but that's up to you). But you've still got a ways to go before you even have to worry about that so you've got plenty of time to figure things out.

Off the subject, but any idea yet when you plan to start your playthrough of the Kirby series back up again?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Larryb posted:

Yeah, if this is the route you're going down then with the exception of Black Knight, you'll technically be playing through every game from Unleashed onward twice (I suppose if you want to break up the monotony you could play both versions simultaneously in alternating videos or something but that's up to you). But you've still got a ways to go before you even have to worry about that so you've got plenty of time to figure things out.
To be fair, the 3ds versions of a lot of these games are substantially different(they're basically Sonic Rush 3 and 4), meaning Unleashed is the only one where you've got "The okay version" vs "God of Waggle".

And as someone who owns both of them, the story is basically exactly the same, the gameplay is the only thing that differs. Do not play the Wii/S2 version.

quote:

Off the subject, but any idea yet when you plan to start your playthrough of the Kirby series back up again?

I am also curious about this.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Kurieg posted:

To be fair, the 3ds versions of a lot of these games are substantially different(they're basically Sonic Rush 3 and 4), meaning Unleashed is the only one where you've got "The okay version" vs "God of Waggle".

And as someone who owns both of them, the story is basically exactly the same, the gameplay is the only thing that differs. Do not play the Wii/S2 version.


I am also curious about this.

You can avoid the waggle by playing with a Gamecube or Classic controller but yeah, the HD version is the superior product all things considered (not that that's saying much as that version isn't without it's own set of problems).

Also they're all pretty much the same plotwise but:

- Colors DS adds some optional bonus missions in every zone with cutscenes featuring the other cast members (which I think is the only work the current voice for Big has gotten in the Sonic series so far), the levels are obviously different due to being a 2D game, and it features a few new bosses including a tacked on Super Sonic boss after getting all the Chaos Emeralds.

- Generations 3DS has new levels and bosses but tells basically the same story minus all the characters that aren't Sonic, Tails, Eggman and their classic counterparts. Aside from the Special Stages it's also entirely in 2D for some reason.

- Lost World 3DS follows the same plot (complete with scenes ported directly from the console version) but removes several cutscenes, adds a few new Wisp powers, has the same zones as the Wii U version except the levels (which range from ok to terrible gimmick stages) and the way the boss fights work are changed entirely, and also has probably the worst Special Stages in the entire franchise (it uses gyroscope controls, which is going to be even worse for you since you'd be doing it while recording footage). Fortunately there's no extra boss that unlocks after getting the Emeralds so you're perfectly fine with just skipping them if you like (speaking of which, good luck if you're trying to go for the true endings of Sonic Advance 2 and 3, though I suppose you could always grab a save file off the internet if worst comes to worst).

Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jul 22, 2017

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Larryb posted:

Off the subject, but any idea yet when you plan to start your playthrough of the Kirby series back up again?

Short answer is "as soon as there's time". With both Pokémon Sun & Moon and Breath of the Wild running alongside Mega Man and Sonic, there's just no room right this second for a regular fifth series (Resident Evil 7 has been running on a pretty wildly irregular schedule for a reason). After BOTW is done, we're going to be taking stock of what the plan is re: Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon vs. HeartGold & SoulSilver and re-evaluating. Odds are, Kirby will return shortly after Zelda is dormant again, later this year. After Command Mission is done, Mega Man will be winding down pretty sharply too, so between those, Kirby will have lots of room to breathe again.

As for the other comments, regarding dual-version games, we'll be taking it on a case-by-case basis. Basically, we're likely to be running 2D and 3D series for almost all of them, but we'll double-check before committing to it each time.

Now let's go shoot some stuff, yeah?

Part 33: "I'm Going to Make It Worse"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-ocvZUJwA

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
It's time to delve into Gamma's seedy animalistic perversions. His pylons are PRIMED FOR THE PARTY.

Part 34: "Hello, Pink Girl-Shaped Animal"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8386_k-nIXI

Brutal Garcon
Nov 2, 2014



Yeah, I'm sure the Dreamcast versions weren't quite this buggy... or we just had lower standards back then and had already learned to avoid trying to bounce around in the corners of the level geometry from other games.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other, really. I remember being weirded out by the animation bugs in SADX, but I don't think it was until SA2B or Sonic 06 that I became acutely aware that seriously, holy poo poo, all of these games are hysterically breakable when you seek out seams and slope glitches.

Let's get to Gamma's current quandary: how to simultaneously rescue AND destroy his family...

Part 35: "Rescue / Destroy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBRXZZNcHhA

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Gamma can't go soft now, we need this robot HARD AS HELL.

Part 36: "Flaccid as All Get-Out"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0_r7f34gFo

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Alright guys, Gamma's been fun, but it's time to move on. Let's end this one with a big BANG.

Part 37: "Depression Loudly"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtok9yhFgU

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Speaking of fanfiction, follow the quote path: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3821460&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1805#post474801620

and then if you dare, https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3821460&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1829#post474805366 (:nws: :nms: :stonk: :catdrugs:)

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jul 29, 2017

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.
Holy poo poo, I've never seen Beta take so long to do his charge attack. I'd never even considered whether Gamma's boss fights had time limits, aside from the ones during levels of course.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
We are loving hopeless.

Part 38: "Neon Murder Hill Zone"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvCbylZxWs



OH MY GOD PERFECTION

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

Santa Cat Says: Good deeds are the things to always do, just make sure someone is watching you
I never thought about it before, but Super Sonic can fly. Apparently not against a water monster though.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
It is pretty remarkably cathartic to watch John struggle this much, I have to admit.

Part 39: "It Wasn't That Hard"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtN8P9VqWPc

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
They say all's well that ends well. So let's end it well we still can. Surrounded by death.

Part 40: "All's Well That Ends Well"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVQBUX2Ihsc

Brutal Garcon
Nov 2, 2014



So... Chao time?

I realised I remembered more of this game then I thought... when I was shouting at the screen because you "obviously" needed to go to some place the game had given you no indication of.

(I mean, switching players so often probably wasn't helping with learning the geography, but still)

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


So fun fact about alcohol and cough syrup, you gotta use the old school cough syrup, which is quasi-legal to sell nowadays since it has a mild opioid called codeine in it. You know that song "Like a G6"? Where they talk about drinking sizzurp? That's alcohol and the cough syrup mix.
Good news: In addition to getting you smashed it gives you a mild high.
Bad news: Cough syrup in general is actually bad for your liver and should not be taken with alcohol. So in addition to all the fun complications that come from that, codeine also induces dependency in the drinkers and you can even overdose on the stuff.

And that is why I will never respect that song. Like if a friend OD'd on heroin, you'd be like "poo poo man did you hear? Harry died" "drat, how?" "OD'd on heroin apparently" "drat I didn't know he was using, that sucks"
But on the other hand, "poo poo man did you hear? Harry died." "drat, how?" "He OD'd on cough syrup" "Ahahahah the dumb motherfucker" "Hahaha dude shut up it's not...aha...funny...hahaha"

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Chao time indeed!

"The Ballad of Ocho"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vqaw6v9lfE

SSNeoman posted:

So fun fact about alcohol and cough syrup, you gotta use the old school cough syrup, which is quasi-legal to sell nowadays since it has a mild opioid called codeine in it. You know that song "Like a G6"? Where they talk about drinking sizzurp? That's alcohol and the cough syrup mix.
Good news: In addition to getting you smashed it gives you a mild high.
Bad news: Cough syrup in general is actually bad for your liver and should not be taken with alcohol. So in addition to all the fun complications that come from that, codeine also induces dependency in the drinkers and you can even overdose on the stuff.

And that is why I will never respect that song. Like if a friend OD'd on heroin, you'd be like "poo poo man did you hear? Harry died" "drat, how?" "OD'd on heroin apparently" "drat I didn't know he was using, that sucks"
But on the other hand, "poo poo man did you hear? Harry died." "drat, how?" "He OD'd on cough syrup" "Ahahahah the dumb motherfucker" "Hahaha dude shut up it's not...aha...funny...hahaha"

It's kind of amazingly trashy of a concoction, I'm amazed it got any mainstream pop music traction.

...wait, no, Ke$ha was involved, nevermind.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Sorry for the delay, folks! Was just tightening up the live intro, and away we goooooo

Part 1: "Sonic Pocket Mania"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuMp4Yo4x4

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ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
So first up, here's today's new video:

Part 2: "Four More Rings"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yv4I15BMsQ

And also... that Michael Jackson video is sort of blowing up all of a sudden. I have no clue what kicked it off, but a couple weeks ago it went from getting ~150 views a day (which is already a TON by our channel's standards) to getting 200-300 reliably every day. Then last night, we got about 2,000 views over the course of six hours. And tonight we're all of a sudden getting 350 views per hour. We hit 50,000 views 16 days ago, so I put up a teaser for the follow-up video, and last night we (VERY unexpectedly) hit 60,000. By the time this thing goes up, we're gonna be at 70-75k, this is... sorta overwhelming, I gotta be honest. Exciting! And kinda scary!

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