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Chilichimp posted:lol, completely loving forseeable, they are interpreting the Scotus partial reinstatement as a near 100% reinstatement and are choosing to interpret the exception as only applying to a single case. I meant it was weird that Trump's lawyers for his Russia-collusion investigation are giving statements about unrelated political victories to the media, it's a bizarre though perhaps unsurprising crossover into things outside their authority.
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Ashcans posted:As soon as you actually get sick, your insurance company is going to have a 'missed payment', and lock you out of coverage for 6 months so you can die cheaply instead of living expensively on their dime. I'm not sure that they will go through the effort to try and trick/defraud people into missed payments. They probably won't have to as I'm sure that there is a pretty high correlation between someone's medical expenses and how likely they are to miss a payment because they have no money due to missed work, copayments, and deductibles or simply because wing extremely ill gets in the way of keeping on top of your everyday responsibilities. It is a near certainty though that these sorts of policies will be effectively selectively enforced to avoid kicking off profitable healthy people.
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Chilichimp posted:It's irrelevant, as they have to score any revisions they made. Yes, but I want to see numbers. I want to see "moderate" GOP senators unhappy with 23 million more uninsured but happily vote yes for revisions that take it down to "only" 22 million more uninsured, for example.
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Shifty Pony posted:I'm not sure that they will go through the effort to try and trick/defraud people into missed payments. They probably won't have to as I'm sure that there is a pretty high correlation between someone's medical expenses and how likely they are to miss a payment because they have no money due to missed work, copayments, and deductibles or simply because wing extremely ill gets in the way of keeping on top of your everyday responsibilities. An easy way is just provide no way to set up autopay and not allow early payment.
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Quorum posted:There's a reason the entire right wing media apparatus is pivoting from "no collusion, no collusion" to "you're the collusion," I suspect. It went from "is Trump colluding with Russia" as a discussion point for Republicans in private from last year, to "you think Trump is colluding with Russia? That's a CRAZY, baseless conspiracy theoriest invented by the Democrats!"
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Covok posted:Man, calm down. why the gently caress is Covok telling people to calm down. Did I fall through a wormhole did Hillary win in this timeline
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Jun 26, 2017 17:40
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Couldn't Trump issue a 24 hour ban every day? No one suing to stop would ever have standing by the time they got to a judge
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Jun 26, 2017 17:41
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Earlier up thread there was some talk about state-based single payer. You should listen to “The Weeds” if you don’t already, they had a whole episode talking about it. One of the biggest issues is that California, probably the best candidate for such a proposal since its economy is much larger than some countries with single payer, is dependent on a complicated web of federal money that probably can’t be relied upon if single payer were to pass. Because, as we know, republicans would actually be terrified of deferring to states rights if it meant supporting a democratic agenda. The hypocrisy that republicans would block a state doing what it wants on healthcare, because it would probably be somewhat successful, makes me really sad. But that’s where we’re at. Although overall I am proud of governor Brown and everything the pinkos in Sacramento have been trying to do to thumb their nose at Trump.
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1stGear posted:why the gently caress is Covok telling people to calm down. Did I fall through a wormhole did Hillary win in this timeline What? No. Hillary didn't even win the primary. That was Jeb, remember? Are you feeling alright?
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/anniekarni/status/879375637294841857 The party of Economic Anxiety, folks!
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Man, any time anything remotely pro-Trump happens, you all lose your heads and doomsay. Have some perspective. The travel ban thing sucks, but it isn't over yet. If you're angry, form a protest group and clog your local airport. The LGBT sucks a lot, I won't lie. As a bi man, I know how much that will ruin lives. The only solution there is angry protest. The new Supreme Court is indeed awful and in a just universe it would not exist, but we can't lose our head about things. 1stGear posted:why the gently caress is Covok telling people to calm down. Did I fall through a wormhole did Hillary win in this timeline Because everyone is saying they upheld the traveo ban, but all they did is partially lift the injusture. That's awful, but just a stunt to give the party the first good news cycle in five months. So, gently caress the SC, but don't lose your heads.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Couldn't Trump issue a 24 hour ban every day? No one suing to stop would ever have standing by the time they got to a judge There's an exception called "capable of repetition, yet evading review." It's what allows pregnant women to have standing in abortion cases, since they often take longer than 9 months to resolve
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Jun 26, 2017 17:47
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A focus group of white Alabama men, lulz. Why not just make it white men from Mississippi at that point, you're 90% of the way there anyway!
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Covok posted:Man, any time anything remotely pro-Trump happens, you all lose your heads and doomsay. Have some perspective. The travel ban thing sucks, but it isn't over yet. If you're angry, form a protest group and clog your local airport. Does this mean you're going to stop wailing about how "there is no hope!" or is this a more a mood swingy thing? sean10mm posted:A focus group of white Alabama men, lulz. That's the point. They barely recognize their white conservative VP but know a bunch of fake poo poo about Comey.
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Covok posted:Man, any time anything remotely pro-Trump happens, you all lose your heads and doomsay. Have some perspective. The travel ban thing sucks, but it isn't over yet. If you're angry, form a protest group and clog your local airport. Are you literally an onion headline
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Quorum posted:There's a reason the entire right wing media apparatus is pivoting from "no collusion, no collusion" to "you're the collusion," I suspect. this. i think there is something in the pipeline that will hit soon that they and trump caught wind of and its something bad enough to make them "switch" positions.
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Goddamnit where is my wittes-bomb
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This is your latest reminder that Covok is comfortably wealthy and uses this thread to amuse himself between his sizable periods of downtime at work.
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empty whippet box posted:Goddamnit where is my wittes-bomb Dead, just like this nation.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:51
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empty whippet box posted:Goddamnit where is my wittes-bomb End of the day today, maybe
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empty whippet box posted:Goddamnit where is my wittes-bomb https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879372157700145154 Hannity's on the lookout, don't worry.
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ShredsYouSay posted:Maybe they're holding it off till the sun goes down hoping trump will incriminate himself further. There is no bomb. There never is.
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Oxxidation posted:This is your latest reminder that Covok is comfortably wealthy and uses this thread to amuse himself between his sizable periods of downtime at work. How much are we talking? Because my recollection was he was like 23 and had no perspective outside of this election cycle.
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Oxxidation posted:This is your latest reminder that Covok is comfortably wealthy and uses this thread to amuse himself between his sizable periods of downtime at work. Your fanfiction of me is flattering but inaccurate. Like seriously dude.
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empty whippet box posted:Goddamnit where is my wittes-bomb Most of these big stories have hit about 5 or 6 in the evening Eastern time, to maximize impact and eyes on the story. Expect then if at all. This guy is fairly reliable wrt predicting bombs.
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Oxxidation posted:This is your latest reminder that Covok is comfortably wealthy and uses this thread to amuse himself between his sizable periods of downtime at work. Aren't we all? I thought SA was pretty much made up of 30 year old + computer janitors and the like at this point
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Covok posted:Man, any time anything remotely pro-Trump happens, you all lose your heads and doomsay. Have some perspective. The travel ban thing sucks, but it isn't over yet. If you're angry, form a protest group and clog your local airport. I had my fill of not panicking in November 9th, 2016, thanks
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Teddybear posted:https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879372157700145154 So hannity knows what's up and is trying to intimidate wittes over it/ claim he "knows more"? Man, I dunno how anyone is saying it's dead or gonna be nothing with poo poo like that going on.
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Cocoa Ninja posted:Earlier up thread there was some talk about state-based single payer. Single payer is not a good idea at the state level even if you are California sized, unfortunately. Another big problem would be the inevitable influx of very sick people, which you don't really have as much of a problem with when it's country to country due to immigration and so on. This would likely lead to a feedback loop. It's simply not worth the risk, if single payer fails at the state level, which would be the likely case, it will doom the federal effort for decades.
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empty whippet box posted:So hannity knows what's up and is trying to intimidate wittes over it/ claim he "knows more"? Man, I dunno how anyone is saying it's dead or gonna be nothing with poo poo like that going on. hannity is trying to imply that witte knew comey leaked his memos to the press, and is trying to imply that it was a felony that witte did not report hannity is an idiot, of course
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Lightning Lord posted:Aren't we all? I thought SA was pretty much made up of 30 year old + computer janitors and the like at this point There's a lot of that and also a lot of people with thankless retail backgrounds. I always feel a little out of the loop because my work is both outdoors and quite physical, not to mention poorly paid...  It hurts a little hearing people chat about how people making $60k have wages depressed and such!
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Quorum posted:Most of these big stories have hit about 5 or 6 in the evening Eastern time, to maximize impact and eyes on the story. Expect then if at all. This guy is fairly reliable wrt predicting bombs. My guess is it's confirmation and more details on the CIA recording of Putin personally ordering his goons to hurt Hillary and help Trump win. That's why we got the Trump rant this morning. Obama KNEW Russian hackers tried to hurt Hillary, he didn't do anything because he thought she would win, it's Obama who's colluding! Also Trump didn't collude or obstruct!
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evilweasel posted:hannity is trying to imply that witte knew comey leaked his memos to the press, and is trying to imply that it was a felony that witte did not report The private memo he wrote to himself, that was not privileged or classified, that he then released as a private citizen. Lock him up.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I wonder how long this is going to take someone to break down into plain English for me. It includes a six month ban from getting coverage if you don't have coverage continuously or miss two payments.
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Teddybear posted:It includes a six month ban from getting coverage if you don't have coverage continuously or miss two payments. Wow, they found a way to kill even MORE people.
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