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KickerOfMice posted:Man, between this baby spice no-cameras fuckery, and the cloaked authorship of the health care bill, the entire administration and congressional R's are really acting more like rulers and less of representatives. That's exactly what they think they are.
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One thing that's very important: currently, the Senate bill reduces the deficit by ~$200 billion more than the House bill (it cannot reduce it by less than the House bill). That's a big slush fund for McConnell to buy his way to 50 votes.
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I imagine the "15 million new uninsured by next year" is gonna make any senator up for reelection in 2018 more than concerned.
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Post just dropped their CBO score article too. Pretty bare bones right now. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...7341_story.html
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I think McConnell may have made a very serious error by not including his mandate replacement in the bill he sent to the CBO:quote:Effects on Health Insurance Coverage That 15 million number would look a loooooooooooooooooooot better with their current "miss two payments and you're hosed" language, I bet.
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22 million more uninsured
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Here's the full cbo report
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Robot Hobo posted:So, Rand could end up saving us from a bill designed to kill so many of us entirely because he's pissy at his party for not trying to kill even more of us. Rand is a way less awesome version of the T-Rex at the end of Jurassic Park. He's not on our side, but if he's stopping the immediate threat from literally killing us, then loving good.
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Here lies 1% of the population of the United States of America Birth-2018
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evilweasel posted:I think McConnell may have made a very serious error by not including his mandate replacement in the bill he sent to the CBO: It actually is in there: the problem is the waiting period provision doesn't start until 2019.
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I don't know how they could have made it much worse if they tried.
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evilweasel posted:I think McConnell may have made a very serious error by not including his mandate replacement in the bill he sent to the CBO: The house bill had the penalty and had 14 million losing it next year, didn't it?
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That CBO score does not reflect merely death and suffering, it also reflects the practical collapse of medical care as an industry. If this passes, there will be layoffs overnight across multpile industries. Doctors, nurses, hospital admin, social workers, counselors and therapists, janitors, orderlies, insurance adjusters, my god. This bill is recession that will hit immediately, and will devastate a load bearing pillar industry in a massive, cross-cutting way.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I don't know how they could have made it much worse if they tried. Maybe let's not find out
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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/879437378229866496 that's...a lot of medicaid cuts
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TGLT posted:McMagic, I am not talking about "internal senate caucus politics". I am talking about anyone attempting to retaliate against Cruz for saying no. If it's McConnell, that poo poo is like rain on a loving raincoat. Hell that poo poo is like rainwater to a dam, it would just make Cruz more popular. And if Trump does go after Cruz like he's going after Heller, I still don't know that it actually has the disastrous effect on his popularity that you seem to think it would. Do I think Cruz could face a credible primary challenge? Probably not. But he definitely could depress turnout among Trumps fans in the general if he votes against Dear Leader since he'll be running on top of the ticket.
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Looks like I was wrong on the CBO score being the tick tick tick (Unless Wittes is just late to the party). I'll own that.
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Kylra posted:Here lies 1% of the population of the United States of America If only it could be the so-called "top 1%" 
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mcmagic posted:Do I think Cruz could face a credible primary challenge? Probably not. But he definitely could depress turnout among Trumps fans in the general if he votes against Dear Leader since he'll be running on top of the ticket. Cruz may face a primary challenge from Perry. Not really explicitly from the right or from the pro-trump wing, but basically "im a conservative but better and less slimy than cruz".
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evilweasel posted:most of the senate was on board with "by god, 23 million will lose insurance? that is a nightmare cbo score" so we are about to see some...interesting...statements that basically suggest 22 million is SO MUCH LESS than 23 million BREAKING: CBO says Senate bill saves 2 million Americans from losing their health coverage under Obamacare!
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/879437378229866496 It's important to remember that there is no valid fiscal reason for these cuts. It's purely driven by spite, racism and crackpot economics.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/879437378229866496 god what a loving poo poo show 
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:Looks like I was wrong on the CBO score being the tick tick tick (Unless Wittes is just late to the party). I'll own that. I don't think that's really Wittes' beat. His ticks have been for Comey / Russia / Sessions stuff.
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mcmagic posted:It's important to remember that there is no valid fiscal reason for these cuts. It's purely driven by spite, racism and crackpot economics. yes there is tax cuts 
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KickerOfMice posted:Man, between this baby spice no-cameras fuckery, and the cloaked authorship of the health care bill, the entire administration and congressional R's are really acting more like rulers and less of representatives. [That tweet about how GOP behavior makes sense if they're assuming they'll never lose another election]
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mcmagic posted:It's important to remember that there is no valid fiscal reason for these cuts. It's purely driven by spite, racism and crackpot economics. evilweasel posted:yes there is beaten Yeah, the goal here is to raid Medicaid for budget "savings" so they can enact tax cuts, increase defense spending, throw some token money at the opiod epidemic and border security. Basically, convert the lives and health of tens of millions of Americans into tax cuts for the super-rich.
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How do you gently caress it up that badly?!
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Huh, I didn't know Higgins was a goon. That explains a lot actually
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:How do you gently caress it up that badly?!
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reporters are getting a little irritated with the republican lying about medicaid https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/879438590727647232
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Ague Proof posted:Definitely not bots in the replies. You misspelled "daily active users".
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lol there's no loving way they pass this poo poo. If nothing else it would crater the economy, and they would get blamed for that AND blamed for all the people dropping dead and going bankrupt after what they did.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:How do you gently caress it up that badly?! You know all of those companies that threw fits about having to pay for insurance for workers? They're gonna now be allowed to kick those people off
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Politicians really need to open a thesaurus or something. https://twitter.com/DomenicoNPR/status/879439027837042688
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Yeah can't wait to roll the dice after my girlfriend and I get married, get a house, and start trying for kids this year. By roll the dice meaning my family goes broke and destitute because we dare to have a child and have pre existing medical conditions.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:How do you gently caress it up that badly?! A lot of medium sized businesses were forced to offer health insurance by the ACA. They presumably would not do so if they were no longer required to.
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Pellisworth posted:beaten If you had a comic book where the villain was going to kick old people out of nursing homes to make money you wouldn't loving believe it.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:How do you gently caress it up that badly?! What you think is a bug is a feature.
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