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bagual posted:Sooo Zezé Perrela, the senator whose farm was the center of the half-a-ton-o-cokecopter debacle just had a taped conversation between him and Aecio released lol
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Lawman 0 posted:Dear Brazilian goons: Was today a good day? temer is like a villain that never dies, he must chew scenery till the very end I have my doubts if the lower house will vote for his investigation and oust him
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Symbolic Butt posted:temer is like a villain that never dies, he must chew scenery till the very end 
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They won't. PMDB made a pact to gain the ability to put an exceptionally awful and unpopular vice-president in power through suspicious means and getting him through the end of his term every generation.
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Huh I was kinda suspecting Temer was somewhat corrupt heh can you believe it
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ZearothK posted:They won't. I liked Itamar Franco, he was a funny old dude
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Magrov posted:I liked Itamar Franco, he was a funny old dude Yup, he was a remnant of the PMDB that actually had a vein of civil service. And he took no crap from Antonio Carlos Magalhaes, which was refreshing.
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It's depressingly funny how there's been a rash of high-profile corruption defendants being hastily release and having their charges charges muddled because they support the interim government in Brazil, the country is so ostracized that it didn't attend the G-20 and is skipped by all foreign leaders, among other big news like the government cutting education to pay for passports so the co-opted middle class won't miss their Disney trips in July... ...and this thread stays dead. I guess everyone moved into the Acceptance phase of the national tragedy, and i can't blame them.
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Sephyr posted:It's depressingly funny how there's been a rash of high-profile corruption defendants being hastily release and having their charges charges muddled because they support the interim government in Brazil, the country is so ostracized that it didn't attend the G-20 and is skipped by all foreign leaders, among other big news like the government cutting education to pay for passports so the co-opted middle class won't miss their Disney trips in July... I'm just kinda fatigued by all the trash news, I'd rather play videogames and study than engage with yet another "hey, this corrupt dude got away because he has friends in the Judiciary". Frankly it just feels hopeless. It's kinda sad too, because I know this is Latin America's status quo and Brazil was just fortunate enough to have a good decade, but for gently caress's sake we were doing FINE.
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There were mid-size protests nationwide last Friday and a crazy kid crashed through the gate of the presidential palace (where Temer is not actually living), the government has also reached 7% approval ratings despite an apologetic media, which does do a lot of front page "politician was arrested!" and then a few weeks later some hidden news about them being released, unless they're from PT or very high profile, in which case the news of their release goes to the front page. It is also rather telling that even DataFolha has published today that "right-wing" ideas are losing to "left-wing" ones in opinion polls in relation to 2014. I wouldn't really say Brazil has comformed, but there is clearly a high level of fatigue combined with a mix of both "let's wait and see" and "nothing matters". In the end there isn't much that the individual private actor can do other than share their ideas with peers and local level activism, so we go back to Candide's wisdom that we must attend to our own garden.
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ZearothK posted:the presidential palace (where Temer is not actually living) just to liven up a bit let me remind the thread that the president is not living the presidential palace because he is afraid it's haunted.
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Symbolic Butt posted:just to liven up a bit let me remind the thread that the president is not living the presidential palace because he is afraid it's haunted. Um fantasmo ronda o Palácio da Alvorada...
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Negrostrike posted:Everything is lost and pointless. It's all over. Every day is a new 7-1.
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At least it's not a military dictatorship yet
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Symbolic Butt posted:just to liven up a bit let me remind the thread that the president is not living the presidential palace because he is afraid it's haunted. It is the ghost of PT's communism.
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soooo uruguay is set to have marijuana in pharmacies this week guess who's an hour away from the border  unfortunately it's probably just montevideo for now 
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bagual posted:soooo uruguay is set to have marijuana in pharmacies this week macri take notes
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ArfJason posted:macri take notes Articles 9 and 10 of the Constitution guarantee free movement of goods and people across provincial borders so what issue could there be?
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bagual posted:soooo uruguay is set to have marijuana in pharmacies this week I was born 1:30h away from the border too, it's not even expensive drug tourism! (i know it doesn't work like that)
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Non Serviam posted:Piñera will be the candidate for the right in Chile and, hopefully, the next president. Piñericosas season 2.
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Here's hoping he'll save more miners. He's drat good at this.
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In case anyone ever thought that the investigations in Brazil were actually about corruption, they are dismantling and merging the lava jato task force.
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In Argentina news, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, currently indicted in something like 5 different tax evasion investigations, is running for a Senate seat in Argentina as Macri does his best impression of a Peronista that ultimately satisfies no one. Rich conservatives are clutching their pearls at the possible return of "La Yegua" and her dreaded kirchnerismo, while the Peronistas decry her as "not one of us", pretending that they'll vote for her rival when everyone knows that they don't have anything resembling a backbone or a strategy besides "side with whoever polls well in the Conurbano". Also, for whoever in the US that still can't wrap their mind around Trump and what's happening to American politics, please feel free to read up on Argentine history.
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Yeah, and he was still leading in the polling (often by far). I honestly don't know where the way forward is for Brazil at this point.
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Way forward? There's none. Like I said before, there's no hope.
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Negrostrike posted:Way forward? There's none. Like I said before, there's no hope. Admittedly, I knew they were going after Lula but giving him 10 years while he is still getting extreme strong polling is pretty impressively hosed.
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To be honest, at this point Lula is Brazil's Hillary: Someone with a huge target painted on his back and a in a party that is severely weakened by all the latest controversy. If he won, we'd have an even worse repeat of the last two years, so if he can't run I don't feel too bad about it (ignoring all the bullshit around it, and how people who did worse are getting away with it). Now, if anyone else popped up on the left or even left of center to beat Bolsonaro, Dória et al I'd be glad. Of course things won't go well, though.
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nerdz posted:To be honest, at this point Lula is Brazil's Hillary: Someone with a huge target painted on his back and a in a party that is severely weakened by all the latest controversy. If he won, we'd have an even worse repeat of the last two years, so if he can't run I don't feel too bad about it (ignoring all the bullshit around it, and how people who did worse are getting away with it). Lula at least had a history of pushing the politics of Brazil to the left and some real accomplishments. He would be a lighting rod but at least would communicate that the public has some type of voice in the affairs of the country. It would be great if a strong left-wing candidate replaced him, but the odds are really against them.
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And at the same day they pass the loving Labour reform in the Senate and free Geddel.
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I thought Lula was being prosecuted unfairly until his son bought a football team in Uruguay. You don't do that unless you have a lot of money to launder so now I'm convinced he's dirty af.
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Polidoro posted:I thought Lula was being prosecuted unfairly until his son bought a football team in Uruguay. You don't do that unless you have a lot of money to launder so now I'm convinced he's dirty af. I mean, I think he's dirty, it's more that EVERYONE ELSE that's dirty has way more evidence piled up against them and somehow they're still getting away with it. It just shows how people just wanna gently caress PT up and as soon as they're dead, they'll go back to the passive "corruption is bad but we can't help it meh" thing Brazilians are so fond of. I can't even bother going to protests anymore, I'm just kinda numbed to it all and it sucks. It doesn't help that our left is divided between people that wanna die embracing Lula's flaming corpse and people that wanna do the Zizek thing of "letting them gently caress up the system because it will CHANGE things" which, well, it won't and I'm the one getting hosed then.
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Dias posted:do the Zizek thing of "letting them gently caress up the system because it will CHANGE things" which, well, it won't and I'm the one getting hosed then. lol Zizek is such a retard
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