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Nehru the Damaja posted:Was telling a friend about the lineage of poison mist and the kayfabe family ties around it when it occurred to me that American promotions don't seem to do kayfabe family that much. Some kayfabe brothers here and there but I definitely can't think of a lot of sons. WCW claimed The Giant was Andre's son, there was that thing with Mr. Kennedy but I go blank real quickly after that. They did it constantly. Lars, Gene, Ole and Arn Anderson are not related. Jerry Graham and Superstar Graham were not related, nor were Kevin and Dave Sullivan and just a ton more. Waldo Von Erich wasn't related and I think a kayfabe son of his was introduced to team with the Von Erich brothers. The Rock's family isn't actually related to the Samoan wrestling dynasty by blood but instead Peter took a misspelled version of a previous star's name and then they all became a family. There were fewer sons, but there were still a few out there. Ed Lewis definitely tried to play off being related to the original Evan Strangler Lewis and there were a few wrestlers in the 10s and 20s that were taking the names of pioneer wrestlers. Prince Iaukea wasn't explicitly called King Curtis' son but the implication was definitely there. I know there's more but it's hard to remember since most of them didn't last. As for why you see less in the US? Well someone taking the name Hijo or Jr in Mexico is probably going to be under a mask so it's a lot easier to pull off. Also American wrestlers who aren't bringing their own kids into the business likely don't want to be looked upon as "old" by having a fake son which isn't going to help their drawing power much. If they aren't active, the memory of wrestling promotions is typically short so why bring in a fake son in most cases? MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Wasn't there a kayfabe Von Erich? Yeah and he loving sucked and helped kill the family as draws (Lance von Erich)
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Yeah and he loving sucked and helped kill the family as draws (Lance von Erich) Waldo Von Erich was also a kayfabe family member and he was a pretty big star.
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During Matt Riddle's WOR interview recently he mentioned a promoter in Texas who called him up wanting to book him as a Von Erich 
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Ricky Steamboat was named after the Hawaiian wrestler Sammy Steamboat, and he was brought into the WWF at a time when maintaining your name recognition from a territory promotion actually mattered. I always thought this was weird later on when they were playing him up as a karate guy nicknamed "Dragon." He never even did anything vaguely martial arts like except for some chops.
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Halloween Jack posted:Ricky Steamboat was named after the Hawaiian wrestler Sammy Steamboat, and he was brought into the WWF at a time when maintaining your name recognition from a territory promotion actually mattered. Dude looked asian=karate. It was a simpler and more racist time.
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And oddly enough, the Dudleys are all actually related to one another. RIP Big Dick
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Halloween Jack posted:Ricky Steamboat was named after the Hawaiian wrestler Sammy Steamboat, and he was brought into the WWF at a time when maintaining your name recognition from a territory promotion actually mattered. That one was weird because his real name is Richard Blood
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Jason Sextro posted:That one was weird because his real name is Richard Blood I can't believe they didn't push Dick Blood
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Jason Sextro posted:That one was weird because his real name is Richard Blood He should have been Dick Blood in ECW after WCW fired him.
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I won't rest until I can call someone Dick Blood.
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OctoberCountry posted:I can't believe they didn't push Dick Blood They did push ryback for a while though
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Halloween Jack posted:I think he was Richard Blood until Eddie Graham decided it was a bad name for an unhateable babyface. Wait, I hadn't known this. Why was he fired from WCW?
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Ghostpilot posted:Wait, I hadn't known this. Why was he fired from WCW? He wasn't. He retired due to injury.
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I'm pretty sure WCW sent him his release while he was out with injury, so he just decided to stay retired since it was a pretty bad neck injury anyway.
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Steamboat was fired via Fedex after his career ending injury. Years later Mean Gene tried to stir up hotline business by acting like Steamboat would be coming back for a special appearance and it got him so mad he threatened a lawsuit. Can't imagine why he'd be mad at that company!
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I won't rest until I can call someone Dick Blood. Here's freedom: you can call anyone Dick Blood, if you wish
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:Here's freedom: you can call anyone Dick Blood, if you wish I mean accurately
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You can refer to Ricky Steamboat or Johnny the Bull as Dick Blood.
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Justin Godscock posted:Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar - WrestleMania 20 Not only did they phone it in (I think it took them something like eight minutes after the bell to actually make physical contact with one another, to the point that Austin was getting visibly irritated with both of them for being horse's asses), but the crowd shat all over the match to an extent that I don't think has been seen in WWE since, with the possible exception of the 2014 Royal Rumble.
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Which wrestler had the best and worst match with the most distance of quality between them. Who had a match of exceptional quality & had an extremely terrible match as well such that the differential Was most outrageous. What wrestler had a match so bad and a match so good that no One else even did it that much. t
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Cavauro posted:Which wrestler had the best and worst match with the most distance of quality between them. Who had a match of exceptional quality & had an extremely terrible match as well such that the differential Was most outrageous. What wrestler had a match so bad and a match so good that no One else even did it that much. t It's the Sheepherders who had a ***** match against the Fantastics and a -More stars than there are in the universe and the universe is infinite match at Heroes of Wrestling. There is also the case of Masa Chono vs Rick Rude who had a ****+ star match and a negative star match within a year of each other. Chono's neck was broken in between.
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Cavauro posted:Which wrestler had the best and worst match with the most distance of quality between them. Who had a match of exceptional quality & had an extremely terrible match as well such that the differential Was most outrageous. What wrestler had a match so bad and a match so good that no One else even did it that much. t James Storm and Chris Harris had a dogshit blindfold match with each other in TNA and then a month later had a MOTY against each other
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Is the Sheepherders/Bushwackers has to be up there with the biggest 180 the WWE did for a gimmick in the 80's right?
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Was it known that Stone Cold was going to switch right back to heel at Invasion 2001, given that it looked like they were turning back on the initial heel turn no-one wanted to see anyway? Or was his Alliance defection as big a surprise as the end of Mania?
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Jericho. I don't like it, they should never have made him Doink.
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Halloween Jack posted:Bret Hart and Sting were in the same -4 star match: WarGames 98. (Sting's two five-star matches and his worst match are all WarGames!)
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who am i supposed to believe with all those answers. might as well whoop my rear end right here. send a PM if You want to whgoop it though.
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Question raised by the Netflix GLOW show: Did the real GLOW have titles? If so, were they belts, or did they 'girly' it up like in the dramatised version? (In the Netflix version, the championship is a tiara)
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Gaz-L posted:Question raised by the Netflix GLOW show: Did the real GLOW have titles? If so, were they belts, or did they 'girly' it up like in the dramatised version? (In the Netflix version, the championship is a tiara) It was a tiara in the actual show too, a loving plastic tiara like you would find at a halloween store or in a princess kit in the bargain section of the wal-mart toy aisle. It just had GLOW in red plastic stones glued on it. You can see it at the end of the GLOW documentary on Netflix, Ivory / Tina Ferrari shows it off for the camera. E: besides Ivory, did anyone from GLOW continue on to have a successful career with a major company? I'm not counting Matilda the Hun because I'm pretty sure she just continued to wrestle in the indies.
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Holy poo poo, the one in the Netflix show is basically EXACTLY like you describe, down the low-rent lettering stuck to it.
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titties posted:E: besides Ivory, did anyone from GLOW continue on to have a successful career with a major company? If you count porn, yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffany_Million quote:By 1994 she had appeared in about 100 X-rated films (including one called B.L.O.W. (Beautiful Ladies of Wrestling)). !!! I must see this
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The Bee posted:Remember when Tatanka just showed up in the ARMBAR? What was really cool was the several consecutive posts of "IS THAT loving TATANKA?!" followed by Micheal Cole going "...is that Tatanka?"
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EugeneJ posted:James Storm and Chris Harris had a dogshit blindfold match with each other in TNA and then a month later had a MOTY against each other Was that the actual stipulation?
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As somebody who hasn't watched the show: How is the Netflix show related to the actual company? Is it a show that just uses the acronym? Are the characters based the real-life people that made up GLOW? Is it a fictional show based on real-life things that happened in GLOW?
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It's this one. Solid show. Great gimmicks.
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It's a show that uses the real-life circumstances around the creation of GLOW as a jumping-off point. Some of the characters are very, very loosely based on real people, but exceedingly fictionalised. I believe Marc Maron's character is based on the real director, and some of the show-within-the-show's gimmicks are inspired by the real ones. (Machu Pichu instead of Mt Fiji, Melrose instead of Hollywood, etc)
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Machu Picchu is awesome but they didn't really have a choice since Mount Fiji loved and was loved by everyone. The GLOW doc on Netflix is much less depressing than the other women's rasslin doc, Lipstick & Dynamite.
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