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Thank you! Which idea group would you recommend first, given that Exploration will be second? Humanist?
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alcaras posted:Thank you! I would probably go administrative. Maybe Economic if you're a fan of that group.
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Jun 26, 2017 21:15
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Pellisworth posted:The first big decision you need to make is whether to fight for your holdings on the continent or surrender them to France. You'll want some big allies if you plan to defend those provinces-- Castile, Aragon, Burgundy (usually rivals England though), Austria. There is an event that triggers very early which will force you to surrender Maine or go to war with France.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:00
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Can you use the same trick to keep France's liberty desire down as you do for CNs? Develop a province every now and then?
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Jun 26, 2017 22:03
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Can the Inheritance of Burgundy still trigger if France in under a PU, and will the land go to France or its overlord?
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Jun 26, 2017 22:11
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alcaras posted:Thank you! Usually something from the Admin group, because you won't be coring much while you're busy dealing with France. Economic is solid and what I tend to pick when in doubt. Innovative is good as well, but less useful for someone in Western Europe.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:56
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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In my England game where I wanted to grab a bunch of achievements, I didn't surrender Maine and the AI France decided not to go to war over it. After I formed some alliances and got some favors, I took the Subjugate France mission and formed a PU over them. Then once you start to take control over the English Channel, you're stupidly powerful and even more stupidly rich. It was actually kinda fun.
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Arcturas posted:Can you use the same trick to keep France's liberty desire down as you do for CNs? Develop a province every now and then?
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Jun 27, 2017 00:36
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White Coke posted:Can the Inheritance of Burgundy still trigger if France in under a PU, and will the land go to France or its overlord? I was wrong about this. The event will not fire if France is a subject. Too Poetic posted:If you're gonna go for the PU with France dont wait until the surrender of Maine event. If you do you have to beat France + their allies and your allies wont help you. Your allies probably won't help you anyway, Surrender usually fires too fast for you to get enough favors and calling them in for land is not likely to be possible so early in the game. And even if you do it's not a great idea since you'll probably lose the alliance when you stiff them. The point of having the allies is not to call them in but to deprive France of the chance to ally them themselves. Node posted:In my England game where I wanted to grab a bunch of achievements, I didn't surrender Maine and the AI France decided not to go to war over it. After I formed some alliances and got some favors, I took the Subjugate France mission and formed a PU over them. Then once you start to take control over the English Channel, you're stupidly powerful and even more stupidly rich. It was actually kinda fun. It's extremely fun, I really recommend this run. The first time I tried it I actually lost the PU thanks to my chronically lovely relations with France and my king dying out of nowhere like a year after I won the war, so I had to take it back in a big rear end hellwar. Somewhere back in the thread I posted a picture of how that run turned out, I basically locked down the whole new world and was making over 400 gold a month in tariffs alone. You can take it in a lot of different directions once you have France reined in.
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Too Poetic posted:If you're gonna go for the PU with France dont wait until the surrender of Maine event. If you do you have to beat France + their allies and your allies wont help you. You can call allies into the SoM war as normal (you'll likely need to promise them land, though). skasion posted:
Aragon, Burgundy and Castile are all likely to want french land if they rival France. It required a couple of restarts, but I managed to get both Burgundy and Castile to help me get the union in my recent England run. Silent Banana fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 01:25
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Tfw you're going for White Elephant and Ming decides it'd rather annex Pegu than make it a tributary.
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Any advice for trying to take down Muscovy as a Russian minor? It's rough going. I seem to either bite it early or get pretty strong--but not quick enough to outpace Muscovy's explosive growth so that they're basically impossible to tackle when the Ottomans have started breathing down my neck.
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Mr. Fowl posted:Any advice for trying to take down Muscovy as a Russian minor? It's rough going. I seem to either bite it early or get pretty strong--but not quick enough to outpace Muscovy's explosive growth so that they're basically impossible to tackle when the Ottomans have started breathing down my neck. You can support rebels. Pray for a disaster to hit them, which isn't unlikely if you're supporting rebels. Ally them and drive them into massive debt over a bunch of wars. Go after what splits off in the following bankruptcy.
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Mr. Fowl posted:Any advice for trying to take down Muscovy as a Russian minor? It's rough going. I seem to either bite it early or get pretty strong--but not quick enough to outpace Muscovy's explosive growth so that they're basically impossible to tackle when the Ottomans have started breathing down my neck. Fall into a PU with them and then...  France, Spain, Persia, Ottomans, Bahmanis  But seriously, it's a lot of getting lucky and jumping on any advantage you get.
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Jun 27, 2017 09:44
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I just bought this game, and I decided to be all statesman-like and step in to defend a minor nation from the Ottomans, and now everything is on fire. It's absolutely wonderful. Apparently being fairly good at Civ 5 is very poor preperation for EU4...
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Silent Banana posted:You can call allies into the SoM war as normal (you'll likely need to promise them land, though).
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Tree Bucket posted:I just bought this game, and I decided to be all statesman-like and step in to defend a minor nation from the Ottomans, and now everything is on fire. It's absolutely wonderful. Civ5 and EU4 are almost antithesis as far as games go. I enjoy Civ5 a lot, but doesn't keep me coming back as EU does. Basically, EU is all about building strong (and convenient) alliances, growing as much as possible in 'safe' regions (those that have your culture/religion) before taking on the big boys, managing your manpower so wars don't ruin you for decades, and concentrating trade so your economy can sustain your ambitions. Civ5 is far more about getting to the prime real estate before anyone else (A bit of a thing in EU4 as well if you are colonizing, but never to the same extent) and then boosting technology as fast as it will go.
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3 years into Court and Country i just had the horrible realization that my 7 legitimacy monarch will not allow me to have 65 absolutism by the resolution of the disaster. Great great great Now taking suggestions I Love You! fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 15:48
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After getting a little frustrated with Ryazan, I decided to just make a fun/stupid short term goal that, uh, seems to be paying off. See, Tver, like Ryazan, starts off with no heir and is Rurikovich, but they're very willing to do a Royal Marriage. So I kept restarting until I managed to win a war for my claim on their throne. It wasn't hard--Ryazan has slightly more forcelimit than Tver and combined with a Boyar general your troops are probably going to pull through. The issue isn't even taking them AND Odyev at once. It's mostly that there was more than a few times where they ended up in a Personal Union with Muscovy before I could seal the deal! But it seems like it's working? Tver isn't too hard to please with development and then you've got a subject that's rolling around with 6-8 forcelimit--and Muscovy doesn't get it, particularly if you Ally Muscovy.
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Jun 27, 2017 16:01
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I Love You! posted:3 years into Court and Country i just had the horrible realization that my 7 legitimacy monarch will not allow me to have 65 absolutism by the resolution of the disaster. Reduce autonomy and use military points to strengthen government
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Jun 27, 2017 19:38
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Going for a Dracula's revenge run, current status is uh, interesting to say the least: Long story short, anytime the Ottomans have gone to war, Russia and I have dog piled on them. This will be the first war where we (I) take anything and dont just end it in a white peace. My usual strategy of rushing to join the HRE didn't workout, which worried me at the start of the run, however I'm pleasantly surprised with how this run has gone thus far.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:47
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i'm concerned that you don't have a draculesti dynasty
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Jun 27, 2017 20:14
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oddium posted:i'm concerned that you don't have a draculesti dynasty Sadly the Wallachia start is, at least in my experience, far more difficult then Moldavia. Get Independence from Poland and take enough provinces in the same war to border Silesia. (Again, got lucky this run and didnt join the HRE). How to start as Wallachia I wouldent even know. Get an alliance with Hungary and hope the Otto's dont declare on you I guess. Update: Constantinople is mine, time to crush the rest of the Ottoman Balkans. About 100 years left, should be able to do it without issue, hopefully. 
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I've done it as Wallachia. It takes some luck early on snagging alliances with Hungary, Poland, and Austria, and patience to build up favors with them for an offensive war. Once you win that first war on the Ottomans you can just snowball and hit them again every time the truce runs out. Mountaineer fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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What are the key things to do for a good Golden Horde start? Do you want to deal with Muscovy right away, or go in a different direction first and then come back for them later? I'm not really clear on the strategies for keeping horde unity up any more either. Its actually been some time since I last played EU4.
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Kersch posted:What are the key things to do for a good Golden Horde start? Do you want to deal with Muscovy right away, or go in a different direction first and then come back for them later? I'm not really clear on the strategies for keeping horde unity up any more either. Its actually been some time since I last played EU4. Kick them down ASAP. If they build steam you'll regret it. You'll have to time them in another war. I find it's best to try and eat a path to Novgorod so that you can take them apart at the same time. Ally another tough horde and eat all the other ones. You want to hop on Crimea quickly as well so they don't become Otto vassals. You can eat almost all of Crimea in one go. Try and ally with Poland at first imo, though it can be dicey.
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Tsyni posted:Kick them down ASAP. If they build steam you'll regret it. You'll have to time them in another war. I find it's best to try and eat a path to Novgorod so that you can take them apart at the same time. Ally another tough horde and eat all the other ones. You want to hop on Crimea quickly as well so they don't become Otto vassals. You can eat almost all of Crimea in one go. Try and ally with Poland at first imo, though it can be dicey. Oh yeah, I haven't played with the new Muscovy changes, but I'd eat ryazan right away and release them as a vassal to feed on Muscovy land after you raise it.
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I Love You! posted:3 years into Court and Country i just had the horrible realization that my 7 legitimacy monarch will not allow me to have 65 absolutism by the resolution of the disaster. Doesn't the disaster only end once you've beaten all the rebels and unsieged everything? It's not just immediately over once the timer runs out. So just keep some rebel stacks around while your legitimacy ticks back up.
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yo i ran some numbers on Improve Relations vs AE Impact Reduction because i was curious. this is a case in which it's assumed you took what would have been 50 ae of land without any reduction at 0 prestige, -20% ae impact is equivalent of having +25% improve relations which is easy to get (40 ae at +2 decay per year vs 50 ae at +2.5 decay per year) at 100 prestige, it's equivalent of having +88% improve relations which is also kind of easy to get (+50% from 100 prestige, some combo of humanist, diplomatic, advisor, policies, being hindu/protestant, there's a ton of traditions) (36 ae at +3 decay per year vs 45 ae at +3.76 decay per year) so improve relations is more "expensive" but you get better stuff to go along with it with ae impact reduction you get more of that good good land at a time which obvs can get you stronger faster
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Jun 28, 2017 04:47
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How am I supposed to gain monarch points other than advisors? It's like 1460 and I am not even close to getting my first technology.
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Jun 28, 2017 04:52
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:How am I supposed to gain monarch points other than advisors? It's like 1460 and I am not even close to getting my first technology. Don't spend them on non-tech things. If your ruler is a real pos like 1/0/0 consider making him a general and sending him into battle. Use estates to get some monarch bonuses.
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If you have the expansions there are some extra ways to get them, but yeah the big thing is to not waste them unnecessarily. Don't harsh treatment unless you have to, don't hire loads of generals unless you really need to, try to use the advisor rather than constantly buying down inflation and so on.
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Lagnar posted:Sadly the Wallachia start is, at least in my experience, far more difficult then Moldavia. Get Independence from Poland and take enough provinces in the same war to border Silesia. (Again, got lucky this run and didnt join the HRE). How to start as Wallachia I wouldent even know. Get an alliance with Hungary and hope the Otto's dont declare on you I guess. You aren't Count Dracula. Achievement revoked. Try again. Second offense will force the music player to play nothing but EU2 Falalalan for a week.
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oddium posted:yo i ran some numbers on Improve Relations vs AE Impact Reduction because i was curious. this is a case in which it's assumed you took what would have been 50 ae of land without any reduction This is cool and interesting but at the end of the day I always get both anyway 
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Jun 28, 2017 06:56
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Got the Redecorating achievement  
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Jun 28, 2017 08:51
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Every time I think I will play a game through til late I hit those higher level forts and the desire to play just evaporates. This game would be so much better later on if forts capped out at 2 or 3.
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Jun 28, 2017 10:22
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Wait, you can consecrate a metropolitan without controlling the whole state  ?
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Jun 28, 2017 10:26
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Just need to be able to state the province and accept it's culture.
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Futuresight posted:Every time I think I will play a game through til late I hit those higher level forts and the desire to play just evaporates. This game would be so much better later on if forts capped out at 2 or 3. Stack siege ability and +siege pips for generals (Offensive, aristocratic, innovative nets you +2 siege pips and +20% siege ability through ideas and a policy iirc). Roll a 3-4 siege pip general, take the splendor ability where you get a bigger bonus to sieges from artillery, bring a shitton of cannons and you'll feel good again.
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