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Rigel posted:Reminder that Obamacare was originally the Heritage Foundation's "Conservative Alternative to Clintoncare". No more hilarious than them winning control of the entire government running against their own idea.
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Rigel posted:Reminder that Obamacare was originally the Heritage Foundation's "Conservative Alternative to Clintoncare". It wasn't really. It had some of the basics of the ACA but a lot of the demands that the wing nuts have. Definitely no Medicaid expansion or anything like that and IIRC they wanted to block grant it, effectively eliminating it.
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nachos posted:Imagine being a republican and realizing your dream of a billion dollar tax cut is dead because orange man bored Trump might be the only person in that room who thinks that this bill is actually about healthcare.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:58
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Rigel posted:Reminder that Obamacare was originally the Heritage Foundation's "Conservative Alternative to Clintoncare". No it wasn't. The only major thing they share was the individual mandate, which Heritage was certainly not the first to think of it.
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Javes posted:What a coincidence!
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Also, I came up with some names. I'm sure at least half are taken and haven't been hosed to google them but, FOCUS TEST THESE NAMES FOR ME GOONS  I've helped set up two insincere PACs and one sincere one, it's good to see more of the former working against the forces of evil. 
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Chilichimp posted:Pork Barrel Bribes If earmarks were still a thing, congress would be in much better shape than it is right now.
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quote:Sen. Lee Comments on Delayed Healthcare Vote ...is the bolded supposed to be good things or bad things?
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At this point tomorrow I am assuming Sara Sanders will just be asking reporters to agree that there are five lights.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:03
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evilweasel posted:...is the bolded supposed to be good things or bad things? Things I hate: - tax cuts for the wealthy - bailouts for big insurance - provisions to make the program affordable for the working class
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evilweasel posted:...is the bolded supposed to be good things or bad things? The implication here seems to be that it helped everyone except the middle class, with no outright value judgments on the other forms of spending.
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evilweasel posted:...is the bolded supposed to be good things or bad things? Two goods and a bad. In that order.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:America First is taken, Americans First isn't! gently caress yes. I'm gonna be rich ya'll. Wait no put me down as a board member
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There is literally no way that a phrase of "Americans First" wouldn't be immediately co-opted by xenophobes.
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Rigel posted:Reminder that Obamacare was originally the Heritage Foundation's "Conservative Alternative to Clintoncare". No one calls the Affordable Care Act by its name. People call it Obamacare, and it will never matter who made all the amendments to the law to be what it is today, because it has been called Obamacare since it was a bill. Anything about the ACA will be pinned on Obama because the name everyone calls it by is his.
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evilweasel posted:...is the bolded supposed to be good things or bad things? "The rich and the poor -- literally the same thing" From the memoirs of the gentleman Mike Lee
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Edit: Someone already asked to grab it, thanks for playing!
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/879798939637223424 This...this is just bad negotiating. This is basically saying its okay not to do it. You should be saying poo poo like "I understand this puts many of you in difficult political situations. This is a gamble. However, to further our party's agenda, we need to get over this hump. We can't go into 2018 without something to our name. All the bad press from this bill is a sunk cost: everyone already associates us with it. But, if we pass it, and immediately pass permanent tax cuts, we can win back voters and donors and turn this whole thing into a win with minimal losses, mostly in the house which we have a strangehold on anyway. Think of your party and its values, not just your seat." But, ya know, that'd require a good negotiator to do.
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Star Man posted:No one calls the Affordable Care Act by its name. People call it Obamacare, and it will never matter who made all the amendments to the law to be what it is today, because it has been called Obamacare since it was a bill. Every time NPR has mentioned it in the last 6 months they've called it 'The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare." I'm not sure if any other media organizations have started doing the same since NPR comprises 90% of non-print media I consume.
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"Now we're just waiting for Mr. Mueller, my...most special guest. When he arrives we will...begin the feast."
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twice burned ice posted:Every time NPR has mentioned it in the last 6 months they've called it 'The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare." Even tagging on that the law is also called Obamacare after calling the law by its name still pins the entire thing on Obama. Don't even mention or acknowledge that the law has a common nickname.
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Watching Sanders be like "fake news is abhorrent, you should watch this video that I don't know if it is fake or not" is pretty funny/frustrating
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Kekekela posted:This is apparently our hero from the briefing, under 700 followers so ground floor : Did anyone else notice this? Brian Karem's bio posted:Columnist for Playboy Was the mainstream media upstaged by... Playboy's WH correspondent?
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Star Man posted:Even tagging on that the law is also called Obamacare after calling the law by its name still pins the entire thing on Obama. Don't even mention or acknowledge that the law has a common nickname.
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Covok posted:This...this is just bad negotiating. This is basically saying its okay not to do it. You should be saying poo poo like "I understand this puts many of you in difficult political situations. This is a gamble. However, to further our party's agenda, we need to get over this hump. We can't go into 2018 without something to our name. All the bad press from this bill is a sunk cost: everyone already associates us with it. But, if we pass it, and immediately pass permanent tax cuts, we can win back voters and donors and turn this whole thing into a win with minimal losses, mostly in the house which we have a strangehold on anyway. Think of your party and its values, not just your seat." None of them are looking to Trump for advice. It's just a bizarre pantomime of the real version of what he's trying to do, and he's a doddering old man they're propping up and pretending isn't a barely-there senile old retard. They're sitting there watching him play pretend and hoping he makes it through each public appearance without saying something absolutely indefensible or utterly asinine or both. The only negotiating that is happening is happening with Mitch McConnell.
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canepazzo posted:Did anyone else notice this? twice burned ice posted:That's how you end up with idiots saying "Don't get rid of the ACA, just get rid of Obamacare! I like my ACA coverage." Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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empty whippet box posted:None of them are looking to Trump for advice. It's just a bizarre pantomime of the real version of what he's trying to do, and he's a doddering old man they're propping up and pretending isn't a barely-there senile old retard. They're sitting there watching him play pretend and hoping he makes it through each public appearance without saying something absolutely indefensible or utterly asinine or both. The only negotiating that is happening is happening with Mitch McConnell. They aren't looking to Trump for advice, but Trump has the loudest megaphone to defend them through at a minimum 2020. They're being asked to take a hard vote and he's making clear they're on their own. It's like if the Democrats in 2009 who were being asked to risk their seats were also told by Obama that, by the way, he might campaign against them if it was in his benefit.
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Isn't there a gelfling somewhere she can give her piece of the Dark Crystal to ?
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Also Brian karem was there in his capacity as correspondent for the Sentinel, a newspaper.
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evilweasel posted:They aren't looking to Trump for advice, but Trump has the loudest megaphone to defend them through at a minimum 2020. They're being asked to take a hard vote and he's making clear they're on their own. He absolutely will campaign against them the second he thinks it will benefit them and they all know it.
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empty whippet box posted:He absolutely will campaign against them the second he thinks it will benefit them and they all know it. i think they figured he wouldn't realize it would benefit him that fast
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nachos posted:Imagine being a republican and realizing your dream of a billion dollar tax cut is dead because orange man bored
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Trumpcare is not nearly in as much peril as its being made out to be. Obviously some tweaks will need to be made, and it was never going to be possible to get it done in 2 days, but its going to be fairly easy getting this to 50 votes. Heller and Collins will be allowed to vote no, Portman, Capito, Murkowski will be bought off with Medicaid money and opioid treatment funds. The "not evil enough crowd" will be easy to win over by cutting further regulations. Everyone McConnell needs to vote yes will vote yes, no matter how much they dislike the bill. It's worse to get this far and fail, than end up voting for a bill that no one really likes.
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"Can you loving believe this idiot?" "Unfortunately, the voters did."
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