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Saladin Rising posted:I'm okay with this outcome. Honestly, they DID try to stop him from gaining power. Not because they couldn't get their hooks in him but because he's so obviously unhinged he will eventually just go out and murder their bills wholesale by sheer incompetence. Edit: Dogs gotta eat too 
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Why is it that the only glimpses of humanity against this bill are the female senate Republicans?
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wouldn't surprise me if he gave vladdy the information about the hole. empty whippet box posted:None of them are looking to Trump for advice. It's just a bizarre pantomime of the real version of what he's trying to do, and he's a doddering old man they're propping up and pretending isn't a barely-there senile old retard. They're sitting there watching him play pretend and hoping he makes it through each public appearance without saying something absolutely indefensible or utterly asinine or both. The only negotiating that is happening is happening with Mitch McConnell. pretty much, they are going their to listen and pretend they care what he thinks and go to sleep while he mumbles about much of littlefinger he is. then they go back to loving the poor/old/sick.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:30
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TyrantWD posted:Trumpcare is not nearly in as much peril as its being made out to be. Obviously some tweaks will need to be made, and it was never going to be possible to get it done in 2 days, but its going to be fairly easy getting this to 50 votes. Heller and Collins will be allowed to vote no, Portman, Capito, Murkowski will be bought off with Medicaid money and opioid treatment funds. The "not evil enough crowd" will be easy to win over by cutting further regulations. Everyone McConnell needs to vote yes will vote yes, no matter how much they dislike the bill. It's worse to get this far and fail, than end up voting for a bill that no one really likes. Is it really?
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Cru Jones posted:I don't know what's going on, but sometimes Sanders looks normal and sometimes she looks like she had a stroke. Do the photos catch her mid-stress tic? That's the human side and the Huckabee side trying to break free from each other. One see's sweet feeedom, the other see's a dog near a tree.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:31
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That cover is hilarious because it's not even a GOOD fake. It seriously looks like the kind of thing you'd waste your money on at a boardwalk or state fair or something. He's too cheap to even hire a decent counterfeiter
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Why is it that the only glimpses of humanity against this bill are the female senate Republicans? uh only one of them is a no, murkowski is still on the fence even after the cowards are going "oh i was always a no" after the bill was pulled
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Jun 27, 2017 22:32
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empty whippet box posted:Is it really? this. if they make it more to the tea parties liking, it will be too awful for the moderates, if its for the moderates the tea party will say gently caress off. either way the CBO score will say its loving awful because they keep trying the same poo poo over and over again.
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It was the best of timelines, it was the worst of timelines. it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
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I hate Donnie, but Times doesn't sound like they have an legal legs here.
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The thing I find most surprising about this is that the legitimate cover has the Time logo almost entirely obscured by Kate's head, but the logo covers up Donald's head.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:It was the best of timelines, it was the worst of timelines. it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only. Hey, answer your PMs!
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Crow Jane posted:That cover is hilarious because it's not even a GOOD fake. It seriously looks like the kind of thing you'd waste your money on at a boardwalk or state fair or something. He's too cheap to even hire a decent counterfeiter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEIihMtXOns&t=213s Hey found Karem going off finally. Should start at the point when he starts. He's up to 28K followers.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:35
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PhazonLink posted:I hate Donnie, but Times doesn't sound like they have an legal legs here. It seems like a pretty open and shut case of a trademark violation.
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https://twitter.com/scottwongdc/status/879746204955004928 https://twitter.com/scottwongdc/status/879746588108881921 The system works
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Javes posted:What a coincidence! If looks could kill, a Secret Service agent would have already tackled her to the ground.
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Oxxidation posted:the insurance companies are screaming for action Are they? I haven't seen it. Not doubting you, I'm just curious what they've been saying. I'd assumed they were ok with the bill because they hadn't seemed to weigh in much.
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evilweasel posted:It seems like a pretty open and shut case of a trademark violation. My grandpa had one of those framed in his basement, with a picture of him in the back of a boat with a beer and a fishing pole. Donnie should find the store that made that one and get it that way.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:39
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evilweasel posted:They aren't looking to Trump for advice, but Trump has the loudest megaphone to defend them through at a minimum 2020. They're being asked to take a hard vote and he's making clear they're on their own. That's my point, really. If Trump wants this to pass, he needs to make politicians feel like the political risk is worth it. And the main way to do that is to say stuff along the lines of what I said in an attempt to build unity and make people think outside themselves. That's how Clinton got tax raises through congress. It isn't easy, but that's the trick. Trump doesn't even get that. Worse, he takes it to the opposite extreme and threatens to campaign against them. That won't work on politicians. They're all narcissists and they don't like being belittled.
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Mustached Demon posted:Don't want the thing not cleanly slicing through entirely. We got a lot of heads to roll here we can't have misfires. Then you also know that with enough force even the dullest edge will sever limbs without issue. HappyHippo posted:The government might have to subsidize energy production in order to use low carbon sources, including nuclear. This isn't really some insurmountable problem. I see this argument come up so much in this discussion. Why do nominally left wing people suddenly care about reigning in government spending when it comes to nuclear? The amount of willful ignorance about nuclear energy on the left is staggering. Understanding nuclear power is to leftists what understanding progressive taxation is to conservatives, and that might be unfair to conservatives since lots of them understand progressive taxation they just have a FYGM mindset. RiggenBlaque posted:Ha, he's already up to 1100 and climbing Over 25k followers now. enraged_camel posted:Nothing on TD about the healthcare bill, but they are going apeshit about the CNN thing. What CNN thing? There's too much crazy poo poo to know what specific thing you mean.
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Petr posted:Are they? I haven't seen it. Not doubting you, I'm just curious what they've been saying. I'd assumed they were ok with the bill because they hadn't seemed to weigh in much. There's been a lot of scuttlebutt that they're pressuring the GOP hard because they need to lock in premium increases for the year and they can't do so with this constant wishy-washiness from Congress destabilizing their markets.
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Wtf is wrong with huckabee sanders face I don't know but it's so off-putting. Plus she looks so much older than she actually is. She's only 34 but I honestly thought she was pushing 50.
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Collins has made a LOT of horrible votes for someone who knows better. She's no hero.
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TyrantWD posted:Trumpcare is not nearly in as much peril as its being made out to be. Obviously some tweaks will need to be made, and it was never going to be possible to get it done in 2 days, but its going to be fairly easy getting this to 50 votes. Heller and Collins will be allowed to vote no, Portman, Capito, Murkowski will be bought off with Medicaid money and opioid treatment funds. The "not evil enough crowd" will be easy to win over by cutting further regulations. Everyone McConnell needs to vote yes will vote yes, no matter how much they dislike the bill. It's worse to get this far and fail, than end up voting for a bill that no one really likes. I fear you may be right. I really really hope you aren't, but I learned the folly of such thinking after they blitzkreiged this past the house when all of our pants were down.
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hanales posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEIihMtXOns&t=213s god drat. there is no fate too awful for these people.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Then you also know that with enough force even the dullest edge will sever limbs without issue. The usual suspects (Project Veritas, confirmed scumbags) have obtained what they think is video proof of CNN pushing a fake Russia story from the get-go. Unfortunately for them Veritas has been proven to be good at one thing only, which is manipulating video evidence, plus what they seem to have obtained if I understand this correctly didn't actually show what they purport it to. As far as I can tell it just says "We should focus on Russia right now because that's the bigger story." Which is... how reporting works?
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Evil Fluffy posted:What CNN thing? There's too much crazy poo poo to know what specific thing you mean. Probably the bit where they pulled a hastily-published article and had the journalists involved resign because it violated their procedures and wasn't fully fact-checked. You know, exhibiting journalistic integrity and all that. That's a sure sign of FAKE NEWS.
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empty whippet box posted:god drat. there is no fate too awful for these people. Avoid the comments. They are beyond redemption.
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Grater posted:I don't know but it's so off-putting. Plus she looks so much older than she actually is. She's only 34 but I honestly thought she was pushing 50. she has the huckabee family morbid obesity but it's not visible when she's looking directly at the camera i don't like to get into criticizing her appearance but it baffled me for a little while until i realized why it's so situational
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No Butt Stuff posted:Dem fundraising efforts are so bad. This is partially why I remain registered as an independent. Granted, that has its downsides but those do not include getting constant haranguing phone calls, mailers and spam begging me for money I don't have. The DNC has to know its base is broke as gently caress in spite of most of them being worked to loving death in jobs they positively loathe (the GOP base too for that matter). EDIT: Didn;t Trump once advocate for single payer not that terribly long ago?
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Petr posted:Are they? I haven't seen it. Not doubting you, I'm just curious what they've been saying. I'd assumed they were ok with the bill because they hadn't seemed to weigh in much. Oh dear Lord they are not ok with this. They just can't move fast enough to squash this. Their cognitive dissonance is holding them back too. The executives want the tax cuts personally, the industry will take a massive hit.
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evilweasel posted:It seems like a pretty open and shut case of a trademark violation. doubt it
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Petr posted:Are they? I haven't seen it. Not doubting you, I'm just curious what they've been saying. I'd assumed they were ok with the bill because they hadn't seemed to weigh in much. They're screaming for some kind of resolution, They hate being stuck in limbo between the ACA and BCRA, they just want something in place and they'll figure out how to gouge everyone from there. Being stuck in the middle is causing a shitload of uncertainty, especially with all of the threats to subsidy pool even if this fails. And as much as they hate the regulations built into ACA, they really enjoy the huge stream of money that it sends their way through the individual mandate and the government subsidized exchanges The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Ceiling fan posted:Oh dear Lord they are not ok with this. They just can't move fast enough to squash this. Their cognitive dissonance is holding them back too. The executives want the tax cuts personally, the industry will take a massive hit. They also are wary that public opposition will just get trump mad at them and not contribute to defeating it (and make him more likely to pull cost-sharing subsidies out of spite).
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WeAreTheRomans posted:doubt it he's using a forgery of Time's newspaper with their giant trademark in commerce and deliberately holding it out as real to the public it's one thing if you or I have a fake time cover in our house, it's another for a businessman to be using a fake in multiple businesses that are branded based on his name
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"Atoms!"
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WeAreTheRomans posted:doubt it Yeah, faking a newspaper cover would be a tricky case at best unless he's using it to advertise his own show. And it isn't his show anymore, far as I recall, either.
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