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https://twitter.com/jeremynoell/status/879814082538471424
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:37 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 05:11 |
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My favorite 3 are probably my old frame judge foil crucible of worlds because I love that card and it looks sick, my Japanese foil M14 young pyromancer because I love young peezy and pulled it in a prize pack, and my Christopher Rush signed beta bolt because it looks sick and bolt is the card I love the most.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:43 |
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Reminds me a lot of Urza's Saga, taking a bunch of staples, giving them cycling, and adding 1 to their mana cost, like Expunge and Lull.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:45 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Reminds me a lot of Urza's Saga, taking a bunch of staples, giving them cycling, and adding 1 to their mana cost, like Expunge and Lull. Yeah, pretty much. I wonder if this helps the bad New Perspectives deck, since it's can tutor up the signature card or cycle as needed
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:46 |
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80s James Hetfield posted:I'm like the complete opposite. I mostly win via Fevered Visions or I get them down to 8-12 life then just blast them in the mid-late game with a 10+ damage Fateful Showdown. I'm not actually sure I ever won a game with Approach. By the time you get to Turn 9 where you have the turn to cast it with Fog backup you've already destroyed their life with Vision damage. The As Foretold is basically a free fog after your second turn which leaves all of your mana free on the opponent's turn to cast draw spells, or counter spells if folks get cute and try to counter the fogs. By turn three you're slamming Fevered Visions for free on your turn. By turn four all of the card draw is free and it's basically over. It also means you can drop an Approach on T7 with negate protection available and still have a fog available for the opponent's turn. Additionally, the fact that fogs are free on your opponent's turns leaves mana open for Lumbering Falls on your turn off needed.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:56 |
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Hmm, I know this effect is stone unplayable at 4 mana. What if we give it cycling and make it cost more?
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:56 |
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Will this card bring Seasons Past back to standard? no
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 22:57 |
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Jenx posted:Huh that...that is not how I would have imagined Ugin being pronounced. Then again, Russian is kind of weird like that. It really is. My favorite is Lotus Bloom. It's translated to "Blooming of the Lotus" which is so much cooler, imo.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:00 |
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the Orb of Zot posted:I mean if it wasn't a land that tapped for mana, I would have dismissed it on the spot. It'll see play in Standard, given that Panharmonicon exists and playable LD doesn't.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:04 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Hmm, I know this effect is stone unplayable at 4 mana. What if we give it cycling and make it cost more? Laziness and lack of playtesting cards.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:12 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Hmm, I know this effect is stone unplayable at 4 mana. What if we give it cycling and make it cost more? Diabolic Tutor saw play in Odyssey era mono-black
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:14 |
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Cycling is the default mode of the spell. It has a 3B kicker to turn it into a tutor. It's better a better card than Diabolic Tutor.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:15 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Hmm, I know this effect is stone unplayable at 4 mana. What if we give it cycling and make it cost more? There's much more interesting design space they could've explored. BBB Search your deck for a card with CMC equal to or less than the number of cards in your graveyard. Cycling B Beseech the Queen is a reasonable baseline for the tutoring effect. 5 mana diabolic tutor with cycling is not only bad it's boring.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:19 |
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whydirt posted:Cycling is the default mode of the spell. It has a 3B kicker to turn it into a tutor. It's better a better card than Diabolic Tutor. If it was Instant i'd agree with you.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:19 |
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PJOmega posted:There's much more interesting design space they could've explored. I too think better Grim Tutor is fine
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:26 |
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:According to Gatherer: Makes sense! Did just reconfirm that it works on modo though. The well of bugs will never go dry.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:27 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:I too think better Grim Tutor is fine At least this one wouldn't cost over $200.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 23:31 |
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this is going to be one of the best uncommons of the set almost certainly. Reminds me of Murder of Crows
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 01:14 |
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Elyv posted:
Yeah that's a cut above the Angler Drake in most instances, probably on par with the rare sphinx for 2UU that lets you scry when you cycle. Turning each cycle into a combat trick is going to make attacking into mana impossible.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 01:27 |
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Ominous Sphinx is going to be a loving chore to play against in Limited
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 01:45 |
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ZeroCount posted:Ominous Sphinx is going to be a loving chore to play against in Limited Reminds me of the joy that was Troubled Healer in Prophecy.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:07 |
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Elyv posted:
Combat is already a pain in the rear end with a Ruthless Sniper active. This is going to be brutal. Reminds me of Silvergill Dowser.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:28 |
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our latest Disperse with upside
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:39 |
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PJOmega posted:Combat is already a pain in the rear end with a Ruthless Sniper active. This is going to be brutal. Reminds me of Silvergill Dowser. Crap, and I thought that merciless javelineer + ruthless sniper was annoying. Being new to drafting, what would y'alls reactions have been opening an ulamog in early draft ($$$ notwithstanding)? Is it a 'oh nice I can make this work, or 'this bomb is unplayable in this format'. I'm still trying to work out the kinks of drafting.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:45 |
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Carl Killer Miller posted:Crap, and I thought that merciless javelineer + ruthless sniper was annoying. Suboptimal. Even in slow formats, 10 is just so much. Your average deck will have 17ish land, so you would need to have a bunch of land and some scions/kozilek's channeler. In BFZ specifically I might have thought there was a chance because there are so many mana producers, but 10 is such a large number.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:47 |
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Carl Killer Miller posted:Crap, and I thought that merciless javelineer + ruthless sniper was annoying. 10 mana cards are generally unplayable in anything other than decks specifically built from the ground up around being able to cast them or cheating them onto the battlefield without paying their mana cost, and in this case I mean 'unplayable' in the literal sense - the game will end before it is possible for you to cast the card. Eldrazi ramp was kind of an archetype in BFZ limited, so it wouldn't have been impossible to make that work, but you would probably want to at least get passed a couple other big bomb-y cards to make sure you had the payoff for it and my Plan A would still be to take Ulamog for the $$$ and then pick the best card in pack two as if he was never there.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 02:58 |
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I look forward to hearing stories of people tutoring with this, picking up their deck to search, and finding out the card they're looking for was the top card.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 03:05 |
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Elyv posted:
Oh wow. It's not Far and Away, but that's still pretty great.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 03:16 |
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whydirt posted:Cycling is the default mode of the spell. It has a 3B kicker to turn it into a tutor. It's better a better card than Diabolic Tutor. I don't really get this. In a cycling based deck I guess, but cycling has been a pretty real cost for me. Decks I've played built around cycling have been hard to get momentum with (all my experience is in draft)
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 03:17 |
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Elyv posted:
This card seems sneakily good
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 03:59 |
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It could have cost the same as Diabolic Tutor and been a common and even then it would only barely be playable in Pauper, never mind any other format. Overpriced tutors feel so much worse than overpriced versions of anything else, I dunno why.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:03 |
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Do X-costed spells trigger imminent doom the way I think they do? I.e. Casting an endless one for 4 triggers a doom with 4 counters on it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:19 |
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Veyrall posted:Do X-costed spells trigger imminent doom the way I think they do? I.e. Casting an endless one for 4 triggers a doom with 4 counters on it. The CMC of X on the stack is what you paid for it, so yes.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:29 |
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My prettiest cards are these ones: And if I had to pick one as absolute favorite it would be the Maze.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:33 |
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Veyrall posted:Do X-costed spells trigger imminent doom the way I think they do? I.e. Casting an endless one for 4 triggers a doom with 4 counters on it. Yes. When an X spell is being cast or is on the stack, its mana cost is calculated using the actual value for X. Any other time, X is zero. If you have an Endless One in hand and your opponent hits you with Transgress the Mind, they can't take it because its CMC is 0. If you cast an Endless One where X = 5, it's a 5 mana spell on the stack. It would trigger Imminent Doom appropriately and it couldn't be countered by Spell Queller. Once it's on the battlefield, it's X goes back to being 0 even though it has five counters on it. Your opponent can kill it with Fatal Push. In your graveyard, X is still 0, so you could bring it back with the front half of Claim to Fame (though this wouldn't be a very good play, since it would come back without any counters and immediately die). X spells get a little screwier when cost reductions or alternate costs get involved. For instance, if you flashback a Conflagrate, you still calculate its CMC on the stack using its normal casting cost and the given value for X. Discarding three cards makes it a 7 mana spell, even though that's not what you actually paid.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:41 |
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Welp, guess it's time to just admit here that Imminent Doom is going to be the next aetherworks and it's going to be banned in Standard. actually, it's probably going to go into Against the Odds where SO is going to completely miss the X cost interaction in deckbuilding
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:56 |
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Entropic posted:I look forward to hearing stories of people tutoring with this, picking up their deck to search, and finding out the card they're looking for was the top card. Idk if they're doing it intentionally but I see a lot of pros start searching from the bottom and it seems like it might be a good practice lmao
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 05:21 |
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The Shortest Path posted:It could have cost the same as Diabolic Tutor and been a common and even then it would only barely be playable in Pauper, never mind any other format. It's because the first two playable tutors were severely undercosted so now everyone is allergic to paying what they should.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 05:29 |
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Star Man posted:The joke is that I wish I was dead because I'm too chicken poo poo to do it myself and need an act of God to do it for me. Hey friend. Instead of opening a booster box, why not open one of these suicide hotlines? Seeking help can be daunting but it's worth it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 06:14 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 05:11 |
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-ubr-39150#paper UBR deck that runs a bunch of Dork artifacts to help cast metalwork colossus. Reminds me a lot of the lattice decks from scars. This has top 8'd a couple modos lately but how do you win with it exactly? What am I searching for when I crack my inventors fair? This deck does a lot but I'm not doing whatever I should be to make it work well.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 06:37 |