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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

badjohny posted:

I think the new stuff only comes from the new suns out, guns out chests.

The seasonal stuff, yes. The additional skins and recolors they've added recently, no.

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BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine




"It's about summer time" :allears:

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
There are a lot of really overpowered heroes right now, hopefully there is a big balance patch coming

Especially Malthael, Uther, Genji, Anub'arak

Midnightghoul fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jun 27, 2017

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


What exactly can they take away from Anub without completely destroying the whole concept behind him, which is two kinds of stuns? Two kinds of hard CC will always be good.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Huh, they don't give any notice when you've earned your sweepstakes ticket for the day?

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
Make more heroes that can do what he does. There are way too many warriors with no CC in the game.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


wiegieman posted:

What exactly can they take away from Anub without completely destroying the whole concept behind him, which is two kinds of stuns? Two kinds of hard CC will always be good.

His innate spell armor, probably.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

wiegieman posted:

What exactly can they take away from Anub without completely destroying the whole concept behind him, which is two kinds of stuns? Two kinds of hard CC will always be good.

Is anub the only character with 2 proper CC abilities? Muradin's secondary stuns seem too short to matter for anything except interrupting channels. I think anub wouldn't be so must-play if there were more characters with ample crowd control.

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

Anub has always had really strong CC but he sucked for such a long time until they gave him really good spell shield. Nerf that and make him really squishy again, and he'll be back to being one of the worst warriors.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012


I like how both of the sets of rewards for 50 people are better than the reward for 10 people. Also that Tychus skin... :allears:

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
Exactly. Anub has been oscillating between "clearly the best tank by a wide margin" and "nerfed so hard he's now completely useless (as a tank)" for as long as he's been in the game. Even the whole Spell Armor thing was just concocted to try and find him a healthy niche.

He's not actually oppressing the meta or anything like that, his win rate is actually fairly reasonable. His popularity is just through the roof because he's the only main tank pick with really great CC.

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED

wiegieman posted:

What exactly can they take away from Anub without completely destroying the whole concept behind him, which is two kinds of stuns? Two kinds of hard CC will always be good.

The insane range on Cocoon, and the CD

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

On a different note, simultaneously on this thread I've seen people throwing shade at Medivh's low winrate and talking about how nasty he can be. Is he just a very high skillcap or am I missing sarcasm somewhere?

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
He's a pretty good hero if he has a good player and a good friendly team with coordination. If he doesn't have either one he's pretty bad.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Bruceski posted:

On a different note, simultaneously on this thread I've seen people throwing shade at Medivh's low winrate and talking about how nasty he can be. Is he just a very high skillcap or am I missing sarcasm somewhere?

I only play him now when I have a full premade and we can coordinate poo poo. Absent that he really isn't very fun because people tend to not react to the things you try to make happen with his unique abilities.

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



AlphaKeny1 posted:

Anub has always had really strong CC but he sucked for such a long time until they gave him really good spell shield. Nerf that and make him really squishy again, and he'll be back to being one of the worst warriors.

Honestly, does no one remember how many extended periods since launch where he's been un-pickable garbage? He is a bit strong right now but it's a pretty drat recent thing

Bruceski posted:

On a different note, simultaneously on this thread I've seen people throwing shade at Medivh's low winrate and talking about how nasty he can be. Is he just a very high skillcap or am I missing sarcasm somewhere?

What the other guy said about coordination, it helps to be on a team with actual voicechat etc. but apart from that the team still has to be built around him, much like Illidan, etc. so their winrates will always be a bit depressed

That said, he is not at all in a good place in the meta right now even comped around him, just in terms of S or A tier drafting

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Bruceski posted:

On a different note, simultaneously on this thread I've seen people throwing shade at Medivh's low winrate and talking about how nasty he can be. Is he just a very high skillcap or am I missing sarcasm somewhere?

It's a bit of both. A comp built with him in mind and communicating CAN be a nightmare, in addition since he's not a support you can wind up in nasty situations with both teams having 0 supports, but Medivh providing a lot of clutch mitigation. there's some funny wombo combos that stick out from his ults or say stitches hooking then eating and running deep back into base using portals. In draft I can't think of much he can bring to the table that isn't brought by others -without a major trade off from a drop in a 5th player doing/soaking damage or pushing.

It's a bit like how some stealth characters if played right can ensure the other team can never have someone alone, but in practice just wind up sitting near team fights swooping in to steal last hit.

Since he's poo poo at waveclear or other generic "Well at least it's a body," stuff it means those amazing "He gave vision for ultra long range snipes and saved his team from death constantly, and synergized with every nasty combo" or "Dude just flew around as a bird watching us teamfight while throwing down portals that got me murdered/blocked me from clicking enemies to finish them off" sticks out.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Can everyone stop playing for a month so I can get that trip to blizzcon, I really need to get out of Sydney tia.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I have zero interest in going to Blizzcon so if I win I hope I can sell it.

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


What's the Sun's Out Loot Crates have in them? 1 guaranteed event item like in OW or something different?

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Imagine being the person who wins one of the drawings only to wind up with a lovely statue of Illidan you have to try and flip on ebay or something.

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
I think the statue looks cool, rather have that than a handful of skins :shrug:

garthoneeye
Feb 18, 2013

Yukari posted:

What's the Sun's Out Loot Crates have in them? 1 guaranteed event item like in OW or something different?

A chance to have an event item.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Bruceski posted:

I have zero interest in going to Blizzcon so if I win I hope I can sell it.

I mean you can try, but you'd have to be very hush-hush about it:

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exchanges (including for cash) of any prizes will be permitted, except that Sponsor reserves the right to
substitute a prize (or portion thereof) of comparable or greater value for any prize.

official rules

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

Avatar brought to you by the TG Sanity fund
I love Abathur, gently caress the haters.

Was just in a game with goons where we were down 2 and just had Li Ming and Zag with 50% health poking the entire enemy team at the boss on the Egypt map. Hatted Zag, managed to shield heal and then spike the entire enemy team fully healing her back up to full and chunking the gently caress out of them all, then our Samuro showed up, I cloned him, we both cloned out, and suddenly there's like 10 of us beating them all to death. Team wiped them, then pushed with the boss straight through their bottom Fort and dropped their Core to like 8%, then I threw a mine by the core and our minions finished it off.

This was after they kinda had been having the upper hand for much of the game, though any time we got into a good fight and I was hatting Sammy or Leoric we'd tear through them because they had squishy assassins, mostly, but yeah... drat fun.


Edit: also in curious what this dream rig is. I can pay for my own, but if they really trick it out that'd be easy enough to flip and make some bank off of.

Guy Farting
Jul 28, 2003

has vegetable salty
i was the samuro and yes that was fun. all clones all the time

Khaba
Oct 29, 2011

Spudd posted:

Can everyone stop playing for a month so I can get that trip to blizzcon, I really need to get out of Sydney tia.

If you mean Sydney, Australia then I have to be the bearer of some unfortunate news for you... it's not included in the list of countries eligible.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


BrianBoitano posted:

I mean you can try, but you'd have to be very hush-hush about it:


official rules

lame, New Zealand isn't eligable?

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

thechalkoutline posted:

Honestly, does no one remember how many extended periods since launch where he's been un-pickable garbage? He is a bit strong right now but it's a pretty drat recent thing

He's also had other extended periods he was the best warrior by a wide margin.

My favorite era was when you got all the beetle talents and they actually did a ton of damage, had decent health, spawned them passively on top of when you use skills, and had life steal for Anub so you just had an army of dudes refilling your health bar constantly.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

Fuzz posted:

I love Abathur, gently caress the haters.

then our Samuro showed up, I cloned him, we both cloned out, and suddenly there's like 10 of us beating them all to death.


the clone ult is so good and has so many hidden bits of fun like A MILLION SAMUROS that it is criminal to not pick it

I had a good abathur game a while ago on the publisher map. Every time the objective was up and both teams fought over it, I would clone our butcher and we would both charge at the enemy team from outside their range of vision. Scared the poo poo out of them and scattered them everywhere. And it worked every single time the objective was up.

Double Nazeebos or Zagaras are pretty good too. There's just so many skills going off, the screen is a mess and there's frogs/spiders/zergs everywhere.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Bruceski posted:

On a different note, simultaneously on this thread I've seen people throwing shade at Medivh's low winrate and talking about how nasty he can be. Is he just a very high skillcap or am I missing sarcasm somewhere?

He's incredibly strong in diamond/masters, where there's as much as a 40% chance your team is even looking at their screen. Below that he is completely worthless, where there is a 100% chance that every person who ends up in your draft will slampick an assassin or specialist and feed all game.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

An orb focus medivh can get by in quick match. Just know that no one is going to click the portals. But his vision and shields can pull his own weight. The problem is people look at hotslogs and see the masters tier portal build and then take dead talents

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Khaba posted:

If you mean Sydney, Australia then I have to be the bearer of some unfortunate news for you... it's not included in the list of countries eligible.

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Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
hi how are you?
there was this racist piece of shit in your av so I fixed it
you're welcome
pay it forward~
If Medivh wasn't 10K gold I'd buy him. But for 10K I have other heroes I need first. Seems like Blizzard stopped with gold price drops this year.

Lprsti99
Apr 7, 2011

Everything's coming up explodey!

Pillbug
Medivh is actually really growing on me, even for QM. Yeah, people will gently caress up portals without VOIP, but that just means I get to use them to bully the gently caress out of people then dip out as soon as they try to go on me. His shield is amazing, and Rift kind of shits out damage when you finish Master's Touch.

Hunting down Abathurs is also the funniest thing, even if they can easily burrow out if they're paying attention. Dude just wants a stress-free game where he hats friends and soaks lanes, but nah, better run bugman.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Lprsti99 posted:

Hunting down Abathurs is also the funniest thing, even if they can easily burrow out if they're paying attention. Dude just wants a stress-free game where he hats friends and soaks lanes, but nah, better run bugman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DkqsVNhH3Y

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Spudd posted:

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One more reason to get out of Sidney, but for good :v:

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

This is clearly a Big Tuna man, not a tiny fish man. Come on dude.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

GenericOverusedName posted:

This is clearly a Big Tuna man, not a tiny fish man. Come on dude.

He remembers his roots

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Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Is Sudmon a goon? I keep getting friend requests from someone with a filled list.

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