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That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

That drat Satyr posted:

That part does kind if morbidly make me want to know what he saw that he mistook for signs of abuse. Like... Surely that dude must have written a detailed report that's out there somewhere since it says he tried very hard to have the courts reassess the facts.

I found it, for anyone that cares:

quote:

Dr. Michael Mouw was an emergency room physician at Brackenridge Hospital who examined the 3-year-old girl in 1991 on the night she first accused Dan Keller of abuse. Mouw testified at the Kellers’ trial that he found two tears in the girl’s hymen consistent with sexual abuse and determined that the injuries were less than 24 hours old.

But in an August hearing on the appeal, Mouw testified that his diagnosis of abuse was incorrect. Years after the trial, while attending a medical seminar, Mouw said a slide presentation on “normal” pediatric hymens included a photo that was identical to what he had observed in the girl.

“Sometimes it takes time to figure out what you don’t know,” Mouw testified, saying he had received minimal training in pediatric sexual abuse before examining the girl. “I was mistaken.”

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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

theflyingorc posted:

hahaha

I'm betting it's just that labia can be radically different from one person to the next, and pre-pornography the average person didn't see that many sets of women's genitals.
And if you're subconsciously prejudiced toward seeing abuse (because you certainly don't want to let real abuse go) you might leap to a wrong conclusion when a girl has unusual genitalia.

That said, if details are to be found anywhere, I think it would be incredibly inappropriate to post them to the thread. "Graphic description of the genitalia of a young child" is not something we need to see.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

That drat Satyr posted:

:unsmith: update on a thread favorite: Fran and Dan Keller were exonerated of all crime on June 20th..

You may or may not recall their story - they were essentially the flash point of the satanic panic craze in the early 90's. The link above recounts the cliff notes better than I can, so for the lazy here's an excerpt:


I am also quite bewildered by the police report that they obtained. All I can do is hold my head and wonder how the hell anyone would ever believe anything like that was going on...

Then I remember pizzagate and give up hope for society.

quote:


Fran cut off the arm of a gorilla in a local park


You would think that this one might be the easiest to disprove, unless there are a lot of armless gorillas in the rural outskirts of Austin.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Madkal posted:

You would think that this one might be the easiest to disprove, unless there are a lot of armless gorillas in the rural outskirts of Austin.

Gorillas aren't very dangerous but I don't know I'd go so far as to call them armless.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Phanatic posted:

Gorillas aren't very dangerous but I don't know I'd go so far as to call them armless.

Dad, get off the forums you're embarrassing me. God!

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
The whole "Omg look at all of these tears in this toddlers vagina. Whoooops turns out its vagina" thing also happened in the San antonio 4 case.

https://www.texasobserver.org/mystery-san-antonio-four/

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

King Pawn
Apr 24, 2010

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

There's a whole genre of these fake disaster scenarios/EAS alerts on Youtube which are mostly trashy but one of my guilty pleasures :shobon: This one is probably the least silly, in fact.

Osama Dozen-Dongs
Nov 29, 2014

That drat Satyr posted:

I found it, for anyone that cares:

quote:

...Mouw testified, saying he had received minimal training in pediatric sexual abuse before examining the girl.

And the fucker still gave an "expert" testimony on it. Doctors must have some special training to remove their ability for critical thought and self-reflection. They just keep bullshitting about things they don't have a loving clue about and claiming they're 100% right all day every day.
Don't ask me about working in a field that doctors regularly think they understand. They don't.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

King Pawn posted:

There's a whole genre of these fake disaster scenarios/EAS alerts on Youtube which are mostly trashy but one of my guilty pleasures :shobon: This one is probably the least silly, in fact.

dont hold out on us

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

I skipped around to bits in the video and jesus, it is straight horrifying.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
I think being consumed by nuclear hellfire would be a pretty quick way to go. Now being far enough away to survive and suffer.....that's why I stay in large cities. I'll just be an oily stain in a pile of broken bricks.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

King Pawn posted:

There's a whole genre of these fake disaster scenarios/EAS alerts on Youtube which are mostly trashy but one of my guilty pleasures :shobon: This one is probably the least silly, in fact.

How was I not aware that this was a thing? Well, I know what rabbit hole I'm going to lose myself down tonight.

Solice Kirsk posted:

I think being consumed by nuclear hellfire would be a pretty quick way to go. Now being far enough away to survive and suffer.....that's why I stay in large cities. I'll just be an oily stain in a pile of broken bricks.

During our lesson in nuclear fission/fusion, my Jr. High science teacher told our class that if he ever sees a mushroom cloud or nuke warning or whatever, he's not going to duck and cover, he's gonna go outside and jump as high as he can when the pressure wave hits. Still seems like solid advice.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Osama Dozen-Dongs posted:

And the fucker still gave an "expert" testimony on it. Doctors must have some special training to remove their ability for critical thought and self-reflection. They just keep bullshitting about things they don't have a loving clue about and claiming they're 100% right all day every day.
Don't ask me about working in a field that doctors regularly think they understand. They don't.

I'm going to ask, because I work in a field that doctors think they understand. What do you do?

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
It's IT for both of you and I claim my 10 pounds

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
Not to stick up for lovely medical practices but sciences change. It's just a hundred times worse when you see wrong conclusions being made on things that affects the welfare of actual human beings.

Buuut a lot of legal experts are probably total shills that will fit anything into the narrative of whoever is paying them for their testimony.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe
Pyf annerving article: Child Vagina sciences change

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

This is a pro click, btw. Disturbingly realistic, and shockingly well made.

King Pawn
Apr 24, 2010

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

dont hold out on us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjVLwoaNW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l3oUjAN1IA

There's also Threads if you haven't seen it, which aired in Britain and Australia in the 80's and scared the poo poo out of a lot of people. It's not on Youtube and I'm not 100% sure I'm allowed to link it, but you should be able to find it if you're interested.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

The Day After and Testament are also two you should watch if you want to be emotionally scarred.

edit: Also going to throw in Miracle Mile for something a bit more lighthearted, as well as By Dawn's Early Light if you want to see something where the crisis ends up actually being averted and James Earl Jones is a badass

BattleMaster has a new favorite as of 07:09 on Jun 28, 2017

Melondog
Oct 9, 2006

:yeshaha:

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

Jesus christ why did I click that at this hour?

BattleMaster please use your capybara powers of zen to make it better.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Here, let me help!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNHYz89sNc

King Pawn
Apr 24, 2010
The healing power of music will get us through this :unsmith:

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Segmentation Fox posted:

Jesus christ why did I click that at this hour?

BattleMaster please use your capybara powers of zen to make it better.

If anything in this thread ever gets you down, just relax

take a nap


go for a walk


hang out with a friend


relax in a bath


have a snack


and remember that things will turn out okay

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Battlemaster you're too good for us.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~


ugh, stop it.

Perhaps some 80s pop will bring up everyone's spirits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4FT7BKr8GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTVpCcvG0aM

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Segmentation Fox posted:

Jesus christ why did I click that at this hour?

BattleMaster please use your capybara powers of zen to make it better.

Please, just sit down, relax, and read a good comic book.

Melondog
Oct 9, 2006

:yeshaha:
Battlemaster is the rodent of my dreams <3

Erghh
Sep 24, 2007

"Let him speak!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCM4_5uB1ww

A shameful oversight.

Hoopy Frood
May 1, 2008

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

ugh, stop it.

Perhaps some 80s pop will bring up everyone's spirits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4FT7BKr8GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTVpCcvG0aM

Surely some Sigur Ros will relax you after that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPuZsIkRj8

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

gently caress this thread, I'm gonna go laugh at some cheesy old government films
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMdnod8VPI

ruarc
Oct 22, 2008

what

Hoopy Frood posted:

Surely some Sigur Ros will relax you after that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPuZsIkRj8

How about Morrissey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHBZFSYA12A

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e0b8c863c1cb18b

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/pretty-backpacker-who-lived-cult-10707505

I think this "murder island" has been posted before but another tourist died. Most of the british press are saying its some tantric murder cult. The others are saying its the mob. I dont really see any connection or motive for any of it though and some of it is plausible as dumb tourist stuff. I guess its not really a mystery why its happening when the police are either in on it, or dont care. Could be a serial killer but it doesnt really seem like it.

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Just saw this recent BBC News/Home Office simulated nuclear war broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ3LGfSMhA

The whole thing is unnerving but the last ten minutes are sleepless nights material.

Oh my you weren't kidding. That is extremely convincing, and the last five minutes is pure nightmare fuel. I watched it yesterday and I can't get that sound from the final warning out of my head.

Only funny thing: I love when they're talking to the guy in Poland, and you hear sirens and then see a bright flash, and then the feed cuts out. The British anchor is like "Well we seem to be having technical difficulties. We will get back to talking with this expert who I assure you is alive and well and not a smoldering pile of cinders right now as soon as we can."

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
I found the bombing scene from Threads. It's not quite the same without all the buildup but very well done for the time I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHoMSRZOS4

Also Testament, goddamn. Really captured the sheer futile stupidity of it all.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Fun video but it did seem kinda Russian propaganda-y a bit what with Russia swallowing like half of Europe in x hours and the BBC guy repeatedly being like "as you know, NATO's aggressive actions in the region and refusal to allow Russia to dominate the former nations of the Soviet Union has led to this inevitable conflict"

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

HopperUK posted:

I found the bombing scene from Threads. It's not quite the same without all the buildup but very well done for the time I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHoMSRZOS4

Also Testament, goddamn. Really captured the sheer futile stupidity of it all.

man way back when, GBS had an "add inappropriate soundtracks to movies" thread and someone added Trans-Siberian Orchestra to this and it was great. Unfortunately YouTube deleted the copy I uploaded and I'm not sure where my disc with it went.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

HopperUK posted:

I found the bombing scene from Threads. It's not quite the same without all the buildup but very well done for the time I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHoMSRZOS4

Also Testament, goddamn. Really captured the sheer futile stupidity of it all.

Wouldn't be complete without history's saddest acting credit.

Tardcore
Jan 24, 2011

Not cool enough for the Spider-man club.

DogonCrook posted:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e0b8c863c1cb18b

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/pretty-backpacker-who-lived-cult-10707505

I think this "murder island" has been posted before but another tourist died. Most of the british press are saying its some tantric murder cult. The others are saying its the mob. I dont really see any connection or motive for any of it though and some of it is plausible as dumb tourist stuff. I guess its not really a mystery why its happening when the police are either in on it, or dont care. Could be a serial killer but it doesnt really seem like it.

Club Dread is real now.

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

DogonCrook posted:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e0b8c863c1cb18b

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/pretty-backpacker-who-lived-cult-10707505

I think this "murder island" has been posted before but another tourist died. Most of the british press are saying its some tantric murder cult. The others are saying its the mob. I dont really see any connection or motive for any of it though and some of it is plausible as dumb tourist stuff. I guess its not really a mystery why its happening when the police are either in on it, or dont care. Could be a serial killer but it doesnt really seem like it.

What is a tantric murder cult? Do they spend all night bringing you to the point of death but then not bother finishing the job because they don't want to waste the energy?

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