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Clarisse's Infernal fight seemed a lot easier than Legion's? It was still kind of hard, but it wasn't "spend 7 stamina potions trying to get positioning right on a turn by turn basis" hard. Is Clarisse good? She seems kind of...low powered. 31(42) attack and 34 speed isn't too intimidating, and her defenses blow. First glimpse, she looks to be between Michalis and Ursula as far as GHB characters go. EDIT: Reinhart is absurdly powerful, but also overrated. I would recommend having one unit that can always answer him flat, then making your team heavier to protect that unit. RBBG is a pretty solid arena build. G to deal with Rein, Nowi, Azura, Ninian, Effie, Shareena, two blues to deal with the cloud of red units, but mostly Xander, Ryoma and Ike, and a red unit, because Hector and Nino both exists and are coming for you. TA Julia is in general bad, but she might be what you need for more consistent runs? Gensuki fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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I am genuinely considering Emerald Axe+ on my Hector just to deal with all these merged Reinhardts. Armads' QR2 is also seeing less and less use lately. E: Also maybe TA on Xander because Spring Camilla is the no.2 arena threat to me right now blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 12:08
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The correct way to deal with Reinhardt is to one-round him with your own Reinhardt, imo
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Jun 28, 2017 12:13
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Go 5* that Female Robin
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Jun 28, 2017 12:25
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I'd take Cecilia to do it since I'm using Xander and Camus but mages would tank my score :/ Also why I'd rather kill Reinhardt on the counter because Dancers are off the table
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Jun 28, 2017 12:32
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Tired Moritz posted:Go 5* that Female Robin The only person on my friends list who is on team Lissa has a +2 5* fRobin with gronnraven+ and TA. That's a level of dedication I can appreciate.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:33
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Horse Emblem team easily cleared Clarisse on Infernal. Easy peasy. Nice change of pace after the utter hell that was Legion. I also easily got a deathless Arena run with them so I'll be back up to Tier 19 again next week... and probably fall back down again. Let's be honest.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:54
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Andrast posted:The only person on my friends list who is on team Lissa has a +2 5* fRobin with gronnraven+ and TA. Probably a good time to show you guys my Spring Camilla. 
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Jun 28, 2017 14:33
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That Spring Camilla is +RES/-ATK isn't she? That hurts. I got really lucky with mine being +SPD/-RES.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:42
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Silver Falcon posted:Horse Emblem team easily cleared Clarisse on Infernal. Easy peasy. Nice change of pace after the utter hell that was Legion. I'm having trouble with Lunatic, let alone Infernal. What did you do?
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Jun 28, 2017 14:45
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ApplesandOranges posted:That Spring Camilla is +RES/-ATK isn't she? That hurts. Probably, but I got her at 5 stars so didn't cost me anything really. I really only pay attention to IVs when promoting 4 stars. If I pull a better version just fuse her into that one. Edit: I will say she kinda has a niche in finishing off Hectors. Her defense is so high she can absorb their Vantage blow and then finish them off. Trebek fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 14:51
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Playing Fate Grand/Order I can safely say my favorite thing about the game so far is that there's no IVs.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:53
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I think I have to give up on the bonus from using Priscilla so that I can actually win more than half my matches. I keep getting lovely units like Niles and the BA+ Cherche from my friend list can only do so much.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:18
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I had an easy time with lunatic, I'm close to infernal but not quite there yet. Just testing with horse emblem so far.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:22
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AweStriker posted:I'm having trouble with Lunatic, let alone Infernal. What did you do? Starting by having Xander bait and kill the green horse mage was key to it for me.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:29
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Team Elise, we got a 6.2 multiplier for the hour, I hosed up because I just woke up and might not make the second one battle
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Jun 28, 2017 15:31
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Yeah Lunatic just took me a couple of tries to figure out, and although I haven't finished Infernal yet I think I'll be able to do it, unlike Legion. I'm gonna need to fit a healer in so Hector can pull double duty and nuke the christ out of the armorslayer with Mae before it gets to him.
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Pretty stupid how the solution to all 3 difficulties was "have a reinhardt and a dancer" but that's like half of the content of this game so
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Jun 28, 2017 15:39
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Xander on a defensive tile can kill everything else but I can't seem to be able to solve the blue mage on infernal. I'm having a mage blast the breakable block open and have Xander charge to the defensive tile. He kill the green mage and wounds the red cavalry and archer but they live unfortunately.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:40
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Oh gently caress, I thought the gauntlet quests refreshed every day instead of every other day so I blew a bunch of flags and now I only have 500 left
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Pretty stupid how the solution to all 3 difficulties was "have a reinhardt and a dancer" but that's like half of the content of this game so I had Rein and two dancers in my team
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Jun 28, 2017 15:45
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My horse emblem team was doing well for a while but recently it's been really underperforming. Would it be worth it to swap everyone or almost everyone out? Elise: WoM 2, Fortify Cavalry Gravity Rehabilitate Kindle fired balm Ursula: Death blow 2, hone cavalry Blarblade New moon/moonbow Gunter: Armored blow, hone cavalry Brave axe Harsh command And for red it's either Eliwood: WoM 3, ward cavalry Durandal Holy vestments Or Luke: Fire boost, panic ploy, hp seal. Brave sword + Bonfire. As far as reserves I've got Camus, Xander, Cecilia, Frederick, and Stahl.
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Cant Ride A Bus posted:My horse emblem team was doing well for a while but recently it's been really underperforming. Would it be worth it to swap everyone or almost everyone out? Xander and Cecilia are a lot better than Eliwood or Gunther.
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Find a way to get Xander and Camus onto your team. Xander for the red spot, Camus in place of Elise. They're both excellent physical tanks with a ranged counter attack that gives you a decent amount of counter-kills on mages (Nino needs serious pump for a gronnblade, non TA build to one shot Xander, Xander needs no investment to OHKO Nino, Same wrt Camus v Tharja/Celica) and they can both beat most archers and any ninja 1v1. That they occupy the same niche is not a problem because they use different weapon types, and also because it is an extremely good niche to fill. Given those two, next you'll want a strong Green unit. Sadly, unless you can pull Titania, or you're willing to abandon one horse skill slot (probably Fortify) there aren't good axe users on horses. Luckily, Cecilia is free, and good when she's 5*. If you have the feathers, she is a good tag in. I would only include Elise if you had a Genny to sacrifice. The loss of an attacker is far more crippling than the loss of a healer, even with gravity/drag back shenanigans EDIT: Thing to consider, If Elise triggers her Kindled Fire balm, that does the same job as, but less than, Goad Cavalry. In the spirit of same type teams, having them split up is generally a bad idea anyway, so positioning him shouldn't be hard. Gensuki fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Gensuki posted:Find a way to get Xander and Camus onto your team. Xander for the red spot, Camus in place of Elise. They're both excellent physical tanks with a ranged counter attack that gives you a decent amount of counter-kills on mages (Nino needs serious pump for a gronnblade, non TA build to one shot Xander, Xander needs no investment to OHKO Nino, Same wrt Camus v Tharja/Celica) and they can both beat most archers and any ninja 1v1. Thanks for the input, I actually do have Titania and totally overlooked her. So what I think I'm looking at is something like Camus, Xander, Ursula, Titania? Or is Cecilia better? I have feathers to get one of them to 5*
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Cant Ride A Bus posted:My horse emblem team was doing well for a while but recently it's been really underperforming. Would it be worth it to swap everyone or almost everyone out? You've got one of the best units in the game benched. 5* that bad boy and make a permanent roster spot.
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I got Lunatic Clarisse on my first try but Infernal is being rough even when I rotated Rein into my lineup because people here were saying he trivializes it I found that the blue mage and the ninja get in my way and he actually seemed pretty mediocre for the first time ever
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Gensuki posted:I would only include Elise if you had a Genny to sacrifice. The loss of an attacker is far more crippling than the loss of a healer, even with gravity/drag back shenanigans Eh, Elise actually still hurts decently even with the staff penalty, so she can still get a few picks or soften up anything that can't counterattack. A proper cavalry team might not need her, but she's not the worst option ever if you have a good core of Xander/Cecilia/Ursula - at that point you've got generally enough firepower to handle any one threat, so a support option to fill that last slot's not exactly terrible.
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Elyv posted:I got Lunatic Clarisse on my first try but Infernal is being rough Reinhardt is great when he can one-shot units and pretty awful when he can't. He's too squishy and virtually every unit in the game can double him. He's still awesome but maybe a bit overhyped. And I say this as a proud Reinhardt owner.
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Elyv posted:I got Lunatic Clarisse on my first try but Infernal is being rough I think what I did was Turn 1 bait the ninja and green mage with Xander (ninja lives, mage dies) turn two move Reinhardt to the middle defense tile, kill one dude, end, turn 3 reinhardt kills 2 dudes with a dancer and Nino kills the blue mage (I think) , turn 4 Reinhardt kills the swordsman on the right that was chasing after Nino the whole time
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ApplesandOranges posted:Eh, Elise actually still hurts decently even with the staff penalty, so she can still get a few picks or soften up anything that can't counterattack. A proper cavalry team might not need her, but she's not the worst option ever if you have a good core of Xander/Cecilia/Ursula - at that point you've got generally enough firepower to handle any one threat, so a support option to fill that last slot's not exactly terrible. Would I be better off with Titania or Cecilia as a green?
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Elyv posted:I got Lunatic Clarisse on my first try but Infernal is being rough My rein killed both the Ninja and the blue mage just fine. Cant Ride A Bus posted:Would I be better off with Titania or Cecilia as a green? Cecilia with a blade tome is a lot better than titania.
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Cecilia is too slow for me honestly. I'm gonna be pissed if they make another green mage calvary that doesn't have jack speed.
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Cant Ride A Bus posted:Would I be better off with Titania or Cecilia as a green? Titania (with standard kit) isn't that good against non-blues, though you can sub in an axe/g tome breaker to increase her coverage. She's good if you can take out anything but blues with the rest of your team. Cecilia with a Gronnblade and full Horse Emblem is... about as good as Ursula, if not better. She's nuke #2 along with her, and she works well as a multi-merged 4*. The third option for horse green is Frederick, who is better than Gunter at everything he does. Find a +atk version, give him Brave Axe, and keep him the hell away from mages. Finally, with your Ursula, Darting Blow is probably better than Death Blow in HE. It'll give her 40+ speed with Hone and turn her into a budget Reinhardt.
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So this was a lot easier that the Legion battle. It helps that Clarisse and the dagger user can't do any damage to a 5* Xander on a defense tile, and even on Infernal, the green mage horse unit can't hit double digit damage to Xander on the defense tile, and he kills it when it attacks. Now I have beaten all three battles in just the first few hours.
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Nthing the Xander love he's been a p amazing addition to my permanent red roster spot. I've been leveling up camus but I haven't taken him to 5 star yet. Currently linde is my blue offensive unit and so far she's been dang amazing with Desperation and Ardent Sacrifice. Is camus decent enough to challenge her for the spot? I've also got a somewhat lovely iv Cordelia sitting around too. The wiki rankings clock her at s+ but I take those with a boulder sized grain of salt. Is she actually that close to amazing? I've socked away another 20k feathers and my current choices of bumpage are camus, Cordelia, Nino, and I guess legion since I'm assuming he will be a bonus character for arena relatively soon.
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Camus sucks pre 5* but he starts kicking rear end if you rank him up. Very worth it. If you have Xander with a hone calvary and Camus with his built-in Goad Calvary, they can easily carry you till tier 18 if you have a good green mage to tell Reinhardt to gtfo.
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Xander has been amazing for me. I'm tempted to build up a Camus too but his defense isn't as amazing as Xander, wouldn't that makes his Distant Attack shenanigans less effective?
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Can confirm Xander and Camus as a certified Machine of many forms. Made it to Tier 20 on the back of Goad, QR Camus, and Fortify Cav. Vantage Xander. Add in your dedicated answer to Reinhart (which in most cases will double as your answer to blue units, but Camus can pull double duty there) and leave the fourth spot for the weekly bonus unit, and then all you have to do is hope aReNG does not pair you against 682s forever... EDIT:^^ Camus' speed means he won't get doubled by any (Green) units once Honed unless they're using Lance breaker. His Defense is "enough" but if he is also fortified, then 33(+6) is more than enough to survive any red unit, and any non brave weapon blue unit. Gensuki fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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For now I'm using Reinhardt Cecilia Xander + bonus unit. But I suppose that's both easy mode as well as relatively low BST. I'll start work on Camus to sub in for Reinhardt (Cecilia is a 4*+ to boost ranking).
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