|
What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed. |
|||
|---|---|---|---|
| The Big3 Tourney |
|
67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
|
40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
|
54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
|
41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
|
97 | 32.44% |
| Total: | 210 votes | ||
|
I mean look what the lakers had to do to get rid of mosgov
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 15:57 |
|
|
I can't believe in 2017 ESPN Insider is still a thing
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:15
|
|
|
Cool Buff Man posted:https://twitter.com/MereGorman/status/880071800901824512 I think Ojeleye has a chance to be a good combo forward, he just has to get better at everything. He demolished AAC teams, although that's not saying much. His jumper is really nice, he does everything on defense you'd hope he could do. He could get his own shot. If he was a good passer and 2 years younger then he probably would have been picked 8 or so picks higher. But it's good that he improved in everything while sitting out for the transfer, it's a good sign. Now the Celtics have 3 combo 3 combo 3/4s. Although Taytum looks a lot more like a 3 than anything else. Have you guys noticed that Duke has inflated the stock of its premiere players over the last 4 straight years by playing them at 4 despite being 3's or even 2 sized? Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jun 28, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:15
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:If you buy him out, he's on the cap anyway. If you have to take back a bad contract to get a few picks along with it, that seems reasonable. Unfortunately your now ex-GM did his best to tank any remaining value Carmelo had by trashing him nonstop to the media (even if what he said was true) and hinting that he would be bought out if he had his way Dejan Bimble posted:I think Ojeleye has a chance to be a good combo forward, he just has to get better at everything. He demolished AAC teams, although that's not saying much. His jumper is really nice, he does everything on defense you'd hope he could do. He could get his own shot, if he was a good passer and 2 years younger then he probably would have been picked 8 or so picks higher. But it's good that he's improved in everything over his team not playing, it's a good sign. I've been looking at footage of his shot and it really is nice looking
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:15
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:If you buy him out, he's on the cap anyway. If you have to take back a bad contract to get a few picks along with it, that seems reasonable. The Knicks won't be getting any picks. they will be only getting the bad contracts. No team is going to give up any picks in that trade.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:17
|
|
|
Almost every year we talk about how such and such contract is so bad it is impossible anyone would ever trade for it. Almost every year someone trades for that contract. The cycle continues. That Noah contract tho, for real, no one will ever trade for that.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:18
|
|
|
RCarr posted:Almost every year we talk about how such and such contract is so bad it is impossible anyone would ever trade for it. No contract is untradeable, but usually the team trading said contract has to give something with potential up to get rid of it. You just hope that what you give up is a player that you wanted to get rid of anyway(see, Snitchy McSnitch, and Mosgov to the Nets.)
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:22
|
|
|
Cool Buff Man posted:Unfortunately your now ex-GM did his best to tank any remaining value Carmelo had by trashing him nonstop to the media (even if what he said was true) and hinting that he would be bought out if he had his way I doubt any one of the other teams takes anything Phil said seriously after his performance here.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:22
|
|
|
RCarr posted:Almost every year we talk about how such and such contract is so bad it is impossible anyone would ever trade for it. Everything just happens now, stuff used to be talked about and then not happen, but nobody has the attention span for that anymore, everything that's talked about just happens Cool Buff Man posted:Unfortunately your now ex-GM did his best to tank any remaining value Carmelo had by trashing him nonstop to the media (even if what he said was true) and hinting that he would be bought out if he had his way If he wasn't one handed and could dribble a bit better, he'd have been a higher pick. But I think he's in the mold of Taurean Prince and other of age college wings who can be decent contributors in their second year https://sports.yahoo.com/masai-ujiri-fix-knicks-mess-competent-moves-arent-style-144739950.html THE VERTICAL'S CHRIS MANNIX reporting that the Knicks want to hire Masai Ujiri The NEW YORK KNICKS should sign Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars to make draft decisions as part of a GM triumvirate with code:Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jun 28, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:22
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:I doubt any one of the other teams takes anything Phil said seriously after his performance here. You should really be steeling yourself for 2 more years of Melo instead of trying to talk yourself into getting value for him. You deserve to be happy instead of anxious, my man Dejan Bimble posted:Everything just happens now, stuff used to be talked about and then not happen, but nobody has the attention span for that anymore, everything that's talked about just happens Thank you for more info about his game, he seems like a good pick at 37. I trust Brad to figure out his strengths and put him to use quickly
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:25
|
|
|
Cool Buff Man posted:You should really be steeling yourself for 2 more years of Melo instead of trying to talk yourself into getting value for him. You deserve to be happy instead of anxious, my man If they can't trade him, they should buy him out. It makes no sense for him to be on the team.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:26
|
|
|
Dexo posted:Just to match salaries with Melo you are likely gonna have to take on a more garbage salary or give up assets for anyone to take it amd absorb him into their cap. The Knicks could get better picks by buying out Melo and using the new cap space after he signs somewhere to absorb a bad contract or be a third wheel in a trade. As opposed to just trying to trade Melo without his NTC.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:27
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:If they can't trade him, they should buy him out. It makes no sense for him to be on the team. And we have come full circle.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:27
|
|
|
I don't even see why the Knicks need Melo gone to begin with. He doesn't fit into their plans but it's not such a big deal that it'd make sense to pay him $50,000,000 to go away. I thought Phil's whole media bullying thing was toward the purpose of getting him to waive his NTC so they can get something back for him. If he'll waive the NTC somewhere that wants him then go ahead and trade him, otherwise who cares
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:28
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:If they can't trade him, they should buy him out. It makes no sense for him to be on the team.  Fast Luck posted:I don't even see why the Knicks need Melo gone to begin with. He doesn't fit into their plans but it's not such a big deal that it'd make sense to pay him $50,000,000 to go away. I thought Phil's whole media bullying thing was toward the purpose of getting him to waive his NTC so they can get something back for him. If he'll waive the NTC somewhere that wants him then go ahead and trade him, otherwise who cares He's almost certainly finishing out his contract in NYC
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:28
|
|
|
Melo for Mozgov would keep him in NY, clear up some short-term room + money savings for the Knicks, and be completely hilarious
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:31
|
|
|
^^lolKibner posted:The Knicks could get better picks by buying out Melo and using the new cap space after he signs somewhere to absorb a bad contract or be a third wheel in a trade. As opposed to just trying to trade Melo without his NTC. I don't think they'd get much back in a buyout. I mean, it would be something if you really would prefer the guy not be around, but it's not enough to take on a Mozgov-type deal or anything.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:31
|
|
|
Is a buyout for the remainder of the contract or just that particular year it occurs?
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:33
|
|
|
Fast Luck posted:I don't even see why the Knicks need Melo gone to begin with. He doesn't fit into their plans but it's not such a big deal that it'd make sense to pay him $50,000,000 to go away. I thought Phil's whole media bullying thing was toward the purpose of getting him to waive his NTC so they can get something back for him. If he'll waive the NTC somewhere that wants him then go ahead and trade him, otherwise who cares Because they have a 21 year old guy who should be one of the best players in the NBA in a few years if they don't gently caress him up and who's development Melo being there is hampering. Also, they aren't going to be a good team for the next few years anyway.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:33
|
|
|
pubic works project posted:Is a buyout for the remainder of the contract or just that particular year it occurs? The whole contract, but you can renegotiate it if both parties are interested
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:34
|
|
|
Rest of the contract. Although there is some rule when it comes to the player having a player option.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:35
|
|
|
Cool Buff Man posted:The whole contract, but you can renegotiate it if both parties are interested Is the cap hit spread out between the remainder of years? Like if Melo took 70% of his contract, is it spread out 35% for each year?
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:35
|
|
|
Lockback posted:^^lol Yeah, and it's still better than what they would get back by trading him somewhere he would waive his no-trade clause to.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
Lockback posted:Right, but paying him 90% and having him gone is better than paying him 100% if your just going to bench him. the extra 10% to keep Melo as a scorer off the bench is cheaper than trying to get an equivalent scorer elsewhere. Dexo posted:but but I hate Melo and would rather be petty and vindictive, and likely piss off the players union. Carmelo was worse than Joakim Noah last year by advanced stats. If a team is paying someone why can't they decide the player is most effective coming off the bench?
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-bulls-fred-hoiberg-spt-0628-20170627-story,amp.htmlkcjohnson posted:Hoiberg is aware of the perception from some circles that he has underwhelmed in his first two seasons. He doesn't waste time or energy focusing on critics but the fact he had analytics at the ready when asked about his ability to develop players seemed telling. Oh Fred 
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:37
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880087788242083841 WOW
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:37
|
|
|
 https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880087788242083841
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
OH MY GOD
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
Lmao holy poo poo
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
WOJBOMB
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
Can't say I expected that
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
is the reasoning that harden needed some help that's help https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/880088178161586176
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880088294700331008
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
Does this improve or harm Blake's chances of re-signing with the Clippers? Normally I'd say it's obvious that he's gone but there were rumblings about CP3 being the reason he didn't want to play there anymore
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:40
|
|
|
the gently caress?
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:40
|
|
|
THATS IT? Daryl Morey is my god drat hero
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:40
|
|
|
Holy poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:41
|
|
|
Silly season He's 32 and the wheels are starting to shake though so Houston is making a huge push to win. Still dunno if I like the fit but I'm sure 2 basketball geniuses will work it out
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:41
|
|
|
No Good Clippers Get poo poo on
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 21, 2024 15:57 |
|
|
I'm excited for James Harden screening for Chris Paul and a thousand free throws this loving owns.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2017 16:41
|
|