NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

pubic works project posted:

I edited my post, but would you rather have Griffin or Hayward if you had to give up Bradley to get PG?

Griffin if his medicals check out and they hire a witch doctor to magick his bones whole when he breaks them

Realistically Hayward because he'll play in all of the games

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:51

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# ? May 18, 2024 19:51

fast cars loose anus: Mar 2, 2007; Pillbug

I have no loving idea why Morey wants CP3 when we have a great point guard already

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:52

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Kibner posted:

Was this a better deal for the Clippers than losing Butler was for the Bulls?

The Clippers got assets in return for a pending free agent. The Bulls traded away a player with two years left on his cheap deal.

And the Clippers didn't have to pick swap!!

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:53

SpiritOfSanDimas: Oct 31, 2012

pubic works project posted:

So their starting line-up gonna look like this?

PG - Paul
SG - Harden
SF - Ariza
PF - Ryno
C - Capela

Key Bench - Eric Gordon, Nene, Harrell

I'm reading they're still trying to trade away Ryno.

Ryan Anderson's contract is bad but imo he's a good pick and pop partner for Harden / Paul. There are situations where he can't play defensively but I'm not sure I'd get rid of him

Also lol at the ensuing battle of Gordon Hayward and Blake Griffin both trying to convince Boston to sign them

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:53

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/880089618573557760

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:53

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Cool Buff Man posted:

CP3 made it clear he wasn't going to return so it's all profit really. He did what the Pacers wish PG had done hahah

Yeah, but did the players and assets the Clippers got back vs what they gave up result in a better package than the same that the trade the Bulls did?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:53

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Also do the Mavs laugh or get mad at CP3 for taking away their one free agent and then leaving anyways to strand him in LA?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:54

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

Paul is opting in which means hes 24mil and not 32mil, Rockets still have a good amount of room to work with

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:54

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Redgrendel2001 posted:

https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/880089618573557760

That would be a loving gift to the clippers

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:55

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Bring blake home 👏👏👏

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:55

Professor Funk: Aug 4, 2008; WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

That seems like a pretty huge return for a sign and trade, or am I an idiot?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:56

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford on the same team, so I don't really see the Clippers taking a step back at all

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:56

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Kibner posted:

Yeah, but did the players and assets the Clippers got back vs what they gave up result in a better package than the same that the trade the Bulls did?

Depends on if the Clippers are going to rebuild (Bye Doc) or try to cling to the playoffs (Hi Doc.) I don't think Lou Williams or Patrick Beverley are particularly useful on already bad teams and that 2018 pick will likely suck, so the Bulls trade might have resulted in better assets for a team trying to blow up

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:56

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Tae posted:

The Clippers got assets in return for a pending free agent. The Bulls traded away a player with two years left on his cheap deal.

And the Clippers didn't have to pick swap!!

So, Bulls gave up in-his-prime Butler with two years of team control left and a first round pick for injured young star LaVine, likely young bust Dunn, and a worse first round pick.

Clippers gave up past-his-prime CP3 who is going to be a free agent and got back an eh young player in Dekker, a good defensive roleplayer in Beverly, an established gunner in Lou Williams, and a (likely) late first round pick.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:57

big boi: Jun 11, 2007

Trade Bev to Cleveland, imo

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:57

Bashez: Jul 19, 2004

Chris Paul sucks.

The Clippers get way worse but I don't think the Rockets get much better.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:57

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Professor Funk posted:

That seems like a pretty huge return for a sign and trade, or am I an idiot?

A few redundant role players and a garbage pick for CP's bird rights seems fine

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:57

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Cool Buff Man posted:

Depends on if the Clippers are going to rebuild (Bye Doc) or try to cling to the playoffs (Hi Doc.) I don't think Lou Williams or Patrick Beverley are particularly useful on already bad teams and that 2018 pick will likely suck, so the Bulls trade might have resulted in better assets for a team trying to blow up

Good point.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:57

Jota: May 6, 2003; uga-booga uga-booga

Respect to my man Morey. Can't wait to see how they play together.

G-Hawk posted:

Paul is opting in which means hes 24mil and not 32mil, Rockets still have a good amount of room to work with

I think we have different ideas of good amount.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:58

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

morestuff posted:

A few redundant role players and a garbage pick for CP's bird rights seems fine

Sam Dekker got some hype from Rockets fans last year but I assume that's just fans overhyping bench trash

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:59

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

Jota posted:

Respect to my man Morey. Can't wait to see how they play together.

I think we have different ideas of good amount.

i mostly mean in terms of trades. It keeps Houston farther away from cap hell

# ? Jun 28, 2017 16:59

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Metapod posted:

Bring blake home 👏👏👏

This would be pretty fun imo. The Thunder would basically just be a dunk line.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

WhyteRyce posted:

Sam Dekker got some hype from Rockets fans last year but I assume that's just fans overhyping bench trash

hes a rotation player, maybe a replacement level starter at best long term. Hes a useful part but nothing to write home about.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Tae posted:

Also do the Mavs laugh or get mad at CP3 for taking away their one free agent and then leaving anyways to strand him in LA?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/jonahkeri/status/880091500943724544

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

Rad Valtar: May 31, 2011; Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.

Chris Paul is a really good player and maybe it's just me but I don't see how he fits with Harden who controls most of the ball. The styles don't mesh.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Sacramento apparently is giving Bogdan a $30M/3year deal. Vlade is collecting weapons

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

WhyteRyce posted:

Sam Dekker got some hype from Rockets fans last year but I assume that's just fans overhyping bench trash

He looks real goofy with the ball but has hops. I think he was included in the deal so the Clippers would take Sweet Lou instead of Gordon.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:00

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Tae posted:

Also do the Mavs laugh or get mad at CP3 for taking away their one free agent and then leaving anyways to strand him in LA?

Both, that season it would have been cool. Now it's better to go younger and have Noel, especially while the Warriors are together.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:01

NickRoweFillea: Sep 27, 2012; doin thangs

I hate my stupid stout Division

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:02

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

CP3 and Harden team up. Become home insurance defectors

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:03

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Redick's gotta be gone too, right?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:03

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

NickRoweFillea posted:

I hate my stupid stout Division

Paying Chandler Parsons as much as an all-NBA player is basically gonna leave the squad twisted until 2020.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:03

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Reminder Griffin followed IT on Instagram like a week ago. I think he is gone.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:04

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Rad Valtar posted:

Chris Paul is a really good player and maybe it's just me but I don't see how he fits with Harden who controls most of the ball. The styles don't mesh.

CP3 is a 41% 3pt shooter.

They will fit together fine.

Just because CP3 has never been on a team where he didn't have to carry the ball handling duties doesn't mean he is incapable of being a shooter when the situation demands it.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:04

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

pubic works project posted:

Redick's gotta be gone too, right?

He was gone anyways, definitely

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:04

Ghost Dog: Aug 17, 2016

Rad Valtar posted:

Chris Paul is a really good player and maybe it's just me but I don't see how he fits with Harden who controls most of the ball. The styles don't mesh.

they both have great jump shots and staggering minutes for 2 dudes is really easy. they should be able to play together fine

# ? Jun 28, 2017 17:04