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New Leaf posted:I saw somewhere that Altria sucks but no explanation as to why. She is my 5 star, and I'm rather fond of her from Stay Night, which is all I've seen of the series. I'm not going to reroll or anything because I have some 5 star equip stuff and I'm into Orleans too, I'm just curious why she isn't better regarded. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Altera/Atilla, who really isn't all that great, and not Altria (aka Saber/Arturia/Artoria/Arthur), who's a pretty solid 5 star? Wanna punch whoever made these localization decisions btw.
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DrManiac posted:Is there a good write up on CE yet? Less situational is better than more situational. Crit-related CEs (both stargen and crit damage) aren't super useful until a few months down the line when we start getting servants with enough hitcounts to actually make a significant number of stars, although it's not nearly as dire as JP release day 'cause Quick cards are already buffed. The best CEs will be cards that straight up give you stars per turn, anyways. Buster/Arts/Quick Up are always useful 'cause they boost damage (especially if the NP is matching color) and NP/stargen. NP damage is useful but more situational than regular damage buffs since it only works with NPs. Starting NP is literally never bad. NP gen can be pretty useful. Debuff resist is lol, so far not even the spammiest debuffer has ever warranted using such a CE. Def Up is not bad but this has always been a bit of a rocket tag game, it's better to try to kill ASAP. Later on stall becomes useful but it's still recommended to try and maximize damage output. Later events will start giving some very useful CEs that reduce the need for gacha CEs. New Leaf posted:I saw somewhere that Altria sucks but no explanation as to why. She is my 5 star, and I'm rather fond of her from Stay Night, which is all I've seen of the series. I'm not going to reroll or anything because I have some 5 star equip stuff and I'm into Orleans too, I'm just curious why she isn't better regarded. She also gets outshined by Alter because Alter has an inexplicably boosted NP damage value. Kyte fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 13:50
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"Altria" would not be so bad if it wasn't so so similar to "Altera"; I really wish they had stuck with either Artoria/Arturia and/or Atilla. Related but I am desperate for the first rateup for Altria Alter, Saber is easily my biggest weakness at the moment.
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Bakanogami posted:Are you sure you aren't thinking of Altera/Atilla, who really isn't all that great, and not Altria (aka Saber/Arturia/Artoria/Arthur), who's a pretty solid 5 star? Post 2 on page 1 has a FAQ that asks what 5 stars are good and it says Altria sucks. I dunno, I don't have anyone to gauge her against so I'm going to keep on trucking.
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they'll pry artoria or arturia out of my cold dead hands
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Jun 29, 2017 13:56
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She's very much an all-rounder Servant when it's generally preferred to have each Servant do one or two things really really well.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:57
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Artoria is bad since Artoria Alter exists and she does the exact same poo poo she does for less cost and when grailed her attack is actually higher begging why you would use normal Artoria aside from waifu dedication
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Jun 29, 2017 14:01
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Also pencils http://fgo-sps.com/intro.html
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Jun 29, 2017 14:02
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Well I'm glad to see the Altria team come together to support her awesome because somehow I just got a second one..
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Captain Baal posted:Also pencils pencils...
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Actually if Altria Alter's rateup is not going to be for 6 months maybe I should just bite the bullet and roll now.
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Jun 29, 2017 14:14
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Agartha gives extra BP to women (and traps) Time to bond with Astolfo 
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Jun 29, 2017 14:16
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I don't understand half the words itt.
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Nate RFB posted:Altria Alter god I hate it even more now
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Blockhouse posted:god I hate it even more now Saltria fuels you.
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I am down with a tacit thread understanding that everyone just go with Arturia/Artoria.
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Jun 29, 2017 14:42
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I've seen conflicting reports on this: Did the shop on JP always have 5 tickets for sale each month, or was it five tickets total for the first year before becoming monthly?
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Nate RFB posted:I am down with a tacit thread understanding that everyone just go with Arturia/Artoria. Why the change i wonder, it was Artoria in the official translations for fate/zero and UBW wasn't it? I was very confused by it in this game, i think i thought it was actually a different Saber altogether to be honest.
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Just call em Saber, Atilla, Saber Alter.
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a kitten posted:Why the change, it was Artoria in the official translations for fate/zero and UBW wasn't it? I was very confused by it in this game, i think i thought it was actually a different Saber altogether to be honest.
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Honestly, I can't remember the names so I just call them Regular Saber/Red Saber/French Saber/Evil Regular Saber, etc
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'Nero', 'White Nero' and 'People who are not Nero and therefore not important' (What were they thinking when they wrote Septem)
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at launch they didnt think people would be THAT into the story and while orleans still came out decent septem and fuyuki are the two worst written arcs in the game by a mile
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a kitten posted:Why the change i wonder, it was Artoria in the official translations for fate/zero and UBW wasn't it? I was very confused by it in this game, i think i thought it was actually a different Saber altogether to be honest. Supposedly this was a change ordered directly by Type-Moon, so blame it on the people there being poor at english. Or possibly they're just screwing with everybody.
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The fact that people would rather argue name purity over the quality of puns that Altria brings is the real tragedy.
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Velyoukai posted:The fact that people would rather argue name purity over the quality of puns that Altria brings is the real tragedy. arturia/artoria is easier to rework into other names like archuria
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Endorph posted:at launch they didnt think people would be THAT into the story and while orleans still came out decent septem and fuyuki are the two worst written arcs in the game by a mile Yeah, I've finally been making some real progress through the story on my JP account and things pick up so much better it's astounding. The story's a total slog up through rome and then starts to get good. Now if only they could find a way to escape the curse of being attacked by mooks and interrupting their conversations every thirty seconds. Bakanogami fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Between the mediocre anime of Fuyuki and having redo the Prologue a bunch for rerolls I've grown to intensely dislike the story for the first singularity, but I kind of knew it was kind of eh to begin with so that wasn't surprising. Just treated it as a Quartz/FP farm (from Cu Caster). E: So I know from this that Nero is added to the summoning pool after Septem, but what is the difference between her and say Mordred who is not a Limited Servant but also seemingly not unlocked by clearing something later? Is it a case that the summoning pool simply gets updated passively for all players and all of a sudden players will start getting Mordred in rolls regardless of where they are in the story? Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Bakanogami posted:Yeah, I've finally been making some real progress through the story on my JP account and things pick up so much better it's astounding. The story's a total slog up through rome and then starts to get good. Nate RFB posted:Between the mediocre anime of Fuyuki and having redo the Prologue a bunch for rerolls I've grown to intensely dislike the story for the first singularity, but I kind of knew it was kind of eh to begin with so that wasn't surprising. Just treated it as a Quartz/FP farm (from Cu Caster). yeah, but usually there's an announcement and a rate-up for them when they get added, even if they aren't limited, so it's not really sudden/surprising.
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Looks like people spoilers on the identities of the servants in the new JP event are starting to show up. What's the policy on JP spoilers in here?
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Astolfo is my friend, and he's going to be added to the US gacha next tuesday.
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Bakanogami posted:Looks like people spoilers on the identities of the servants in the new JP event are starting to show up. What's the policy on JP spoilers in here? Story content should be held off on or black barred, servant identities are fine since those are gonna get passed around regardless since no one wants to say "Shinjuku Archer" when referring to James loving Moriarty.
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Captain Baal posted:Story content should be held off on or black barred, servant identities are fine since those are gonna get passed around regardless since no one wants to say "Shinjuku Archer" when referring to James loving Moriarty. Especially when one of those servant identities is so incredibly, painfully obvious I can't believe they even bothered keeping it a secret
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New Leaf posted:Well I'm glad to see the Altria team come together to support her awesome because somehow I just got a second one.. Just use her. You won't regret it. There isn't anything that she can't wreck at this stage of the game. She'll always be really good for clearing out EXP dailies. By the time you get to content where it becomes apparent that she is outclassed, you'll have ways around it. There are multiple versions of Altria across most of the classes so don't be disappointed if the OG one is bad. A couple of them are pretty decent. A couple of them are worse, but don't focus on that.
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I think the fundamental thing that needs to be repeated is that you can finish most of the game with almost anything. Some dudes just make it simpler early on to wreck things than others. Are the Lancer Artorias any good? Never rolled any of them.
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Lancer Artoria is okay, Alter is better.
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did you just call ryougi a melty blood character edit: also you get ryougi for free from the kara no kyoukai event anyway
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I figure Camelot brings the normal version, but when is Lancer Artoria Alter added? Is there an agreed upon shorthand for that character so I don't have to type that out again?
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Dj Meow Mix posted:I figure Camelot brings the normal version, but when is Lancer Artoria Alter added? Is there an agreed upon shorthand for that character so I don't have to type that out again? Lalter is the shorthand and she comes during London which is the 4th Singularity.
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