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Helsing posted:
The logistical support part is another angle sure but dunnae about the strength of the sales and embargo argument as u simply can't unsell anyone merch due to space-time constraints and our preoccupation with the current dimension It would take another type of cunning to break an embargo...
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# ? Jun 25, 2017 16:59 |
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https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/879414110810591232 lmao read that TL. Brown Moses is melting the gently caress down after Seymour Hersh caleld bullshit on the Sarin attack and Trump's gonna bomb Syria even more
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 14:10 |
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that particular tweet storm is accusing the media of being cowards for not turning on cameras during spicer's meetings, but his piece on the latest attack is quite bad, a lot of whinging about hersh using an anonymous source (lol) and some really dumb nitpicking, like this loving gem:quote:Ignoring the fact that the version of events presented by Hersh runs counter to narratives produced by all sides, the claims around the chemical exposure are also worth examining. Hersh refers to “a Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA) by the U.S. military” of the strike, which he provides no source for, which supposedly states “a series of secondary explosions that could have generated a huge toxic cloud that began to spread over the town, formed by the release of the fertilizers, disinfectants and other goods stored in the basement”. He describes the symptoms seen in victims as “consistent with the release of a mixture of chemicals, including chlorine and the organophosphates used in many fertilizers, which can cause neurotoxic effects similar to those of sarin.” Here it is worth pointing out that organophosphates are used as pesticides, not fertilizers, and it’s unclear if this error is from Hersh himself or his anonymous source. This is not the only factual error in the report, with Hersh stating an SU-24 was used in the attack, not an SU-22 as claimed by every other source, including the US government.
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# ? Jun 27, 2017 15:20 |
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actually after reading hersch's piece, and bm's reponse, I'm 99% convinced the chemical attack never happened, both because of the points he raised, but also because it didn't make sense for assad to use a chemical weapon in that bombing in the first place. this whole thing reminds me of that mcnamara documentary more than anything, about the gulf of tonkin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_X_6_9m2s rudatron has issued a correction as of 04:03 on Jun 28, 2017 |
# ? Jun 28, 2017 03:58 |
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actually the whole thing is good if you have an hour to waste so here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ZhIi57x-4&t=2s
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:00 |
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ya know after some indian delivery (lamb curry) and a couple of strong scotch n sodas i am not concerned about syria at all
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:08 |
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elliot you idiot!!
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 04:09 |
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This isn't the Syria thread, but I'd like to know how Brown Moses feels about the liberal media completely ignoring his report about the mosque bombing like we said they would.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:22 |
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what mask bombing
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:26 |
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Baloogan posted:what mask bombing Exactly.
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:35 |
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mollusk bombing
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# ? Jun 28, 2017 10:41 |
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rudatron posted:actually the whole thing is good if you have an hour to waste so here: I love this doc and everyone should watch it edit this is a much better video though https://vimeo.com/149799416 Michael Bayleaf has issued a correction as of 11:40 on Jun 28, 2017 |
# ? Jun 28, 2017 11:35 |
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It pertains to the problem of the brothers who are with you in their unfortunate celibacy and lack of availability of wives for them in the conditions that have been imposed on them. We pray to God to release them. I wrote to Shaykh/Doctor ((Ayman)), [al-Zawahiri], and I consulted with Shaykh ((Abu Yahya)) [al-Libbi]. Dr. Ayman has written us his opinion … As we see it, we have no objection to clarifying to the brothers that they may, in such conditions, masturbate, since this is an extreme case. The ancestors approved this for the community. They advised the young men at the time of the conquest to do so. It has also been prescribed by the legists when needed, and there is no doubt that the brothers are in a state of extreme need.
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# ? Jun 29, 2017 09:19 |
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Does anyone with credibility in real life think that Hersh article is real?
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# ? Jun 29, 2017 17:24 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This isn't the Syria thread, but I'd like to know how Brown Moses feels about the liberal media completely ignoring his report about the mosque bombing like we said they would. he was so sure it was going to be a big deal and change everything
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# ? Jun 29, 2017 17:35 |
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He got owned by Mark Ames so hard that he resorted to retweet a link to a 2014 GBS thread calling Ames a pedo.
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# ? Jun 29, 2017 17:45 |
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man he and ames are really goin at it
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# ? Jun 29, 2017 18:37 |
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Don't tease this out and not post links. https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/880383299985735681 lmao Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 19:44 on Jun 29, 2017 |
# ? Jun 29, 2017 19:31 |
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https://twitter.com/PaulSzoldra/status/882617950758248450 The Foreverwar
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 11:04 |
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I mean I'm 22 and don't have any real emotional connection with 9/11. My only emotion around it is basically just how the neolib and neocon establishment handled the, uh, aftermath.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 13:06 |
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The post-9/11 social transformation of America was one of the most bizarre and terrifying things I've ever lived through, especially since I allowed my 16 year old self to get swept up in it.
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 13:14 |
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https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2017/07/05/Cholera-in-Yemen-A-new-Houthi-weapon-killing-thousands.html *while blowing up docks, roads, neighborhoods* "Stop killing yourself, stop killing yourself, stop killing yourself..."
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 14:48 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2017/07/05/Cholera-in-Yemen-A-new-Houthi-weapon-killing-thousands.html what a monstrous article
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 14:56 |
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i don't buy the hersh story but i'm not 100% because the bm response was so wanky and petulant i couldn't bring myself to actually read it
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 18:33 |
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My takeaway from the Hersh story is that it doesn't really make a difference if his version of the bombing is true to any degree, the big thing is that we couldn't have possibly known what had happened by the time our president made the decision to performatively bomb an empty airfield because he saw some photos of dead kids and our actual intelligence had almost zero influence on that decision making process and when you think about that for more than 10 seconds it's scary as heck
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 18:46 |
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khan sheikoun is horrific but ultimately a rounding error in the aggregate suffering of the civil war trump raring off half-cocked and being rewarded with lockstep support from the supposedly trump-sceptical press is not a good precedent for the next 3.5 years of the country that did the iraq war
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:33 |
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Jose posted:how do death tolls get independently verified? ghost census
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# ? Jul 6, 2017 19:42 |
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Judging by the track record of the US intelligence community I don't know why you think the net result would somehow be better if Trump had waited for them to tell him to drone a wedding.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:36 |
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Larry Parrish posted:I mean I'm 22 and don't have any real emotional connection with 9/11. My only emotion around it is basically just how the neolib and neocon establishment handled the, uh, aftermath. Same. The event itself was weird and scary but the infuriating political response made me feel a lot worse.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 00:39 |
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Larry Parrish posted:I mean I'm 22 and don't have any real emotional connection with 9/11. My only emotion around it is basically just how the neolib and neocon establishment handled the, uh, aftermath. The overall war frenzy it kicked off is probably the main reason 9/11 truther theories is the most common conspiracy theory imo (iirc something like a quarter of americans have doubts about the official version of it), because it's so hard to believe something that was so perfect in every way for the neocon/neolib establishment was just the US sleeping at the switch. Watching the societal change happen as a teen was horrifying truth be told (esp. growing up in a middle eastern, muslim community). After 16 years of war on terror propaganda, Trump is starting to feel more like a culmination (or a step towards it) than an aberration. Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 02:31 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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It became necessary to destroy the town to save it
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# ? Jul 9, 2017 14:50 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The post-9/11 social transformation of America was one of the most bizarre and terrifying things I've ever lived through, especially since I allowed my 16 year old self to get swept up in it. i was in israel at the time, of 9/11, and i recall people saying that "now they will know how it feels." i watched it all unfold live on tv, and that phrase, is the only thing i can ever think about, especially in the context of what you posted. i was ten.
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# ? Jul 9, 2017 17:23 |
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From the voice of the perpretatos themselves
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# ? Jul 9, 2017 17:26 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The post-9/11 social transformation of America was one of the most bizarre and terrifying things I've ever lived through, especially since I allowed my 16 year old self to get swept up in it. I felt something weird back in the late nineties. saving private ryan and the wash of "good war" nostalgia and... as weird as it sounds Tom Brokaw getting a real short, almost martial haircut. I was in the military and all the professional journals were spinning wildly looking for a new enemy to justify their programs' existence. I felt that it was a powder keg waiting a for a match. when the Cole was bombed, i thought that would kick it off.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:01 |
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Plutonis posted:From the voice of the perpretatos themselves
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:03 |
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Anyone else think it's FTW how in the almost 20 years since the supposedly greatest American tragedy we have not once even acted diplomatically against the perpetrators of 9/11
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:05 |
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How about when the former NATO commander of Afghanistan / disgraced CIA Chief / Atlantic Council mouthpiece David Petraeus floated that brilliant trial balloon proposal to arm an Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 10:24 |
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https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/pentagon-study-declares-american-empire-is-collapsing-746754cdaebfquote:Pentagon study declares American empire is ‘collapsing’ quote:Thus, securing computer networks and cyber lines of communication from the predations of opportunistic opponents remains a critical component of U.S. defense calculations. However, this is essential but also insufficient in the contemporary environment. Indeed, to date, American strategists have focused to the point of distraction on defense against the purposeful interruption or destruction of the United States’ information-focused connective tissue, as well as intrusion into and damage to sensitive information repositories. However, consequently, they have been less focused on the purposeful exploitation of the same architecture for the strategic manipulation of perceptions and its attendant influence on political and security outcomes.18 quote:The study team suggests there is a single core defense implication of hyperconnectivity—”speed kills.” With hyperconnectivity comes a quantum increase in the velocity of change in strategic circumstances. It raises the specter of sudden, violent, or disruptive political contagions; rapid, unintended military escalation; as well as war prosecuted by alternative—even overtly non-violent—means at increasingly faster processing speeds. Furthermore, it enables virtual mobilization and distributed collective action under no centralized authority or control and at speeds that will outpace 20th-century bureaucracies at every turn. lmfao quote:The study team concluded that the status quo that virtually all U.S. strategy rests on is, in fact, an artifact of a prior era. It lingers precisely because it comports well with the U.S. self-image of a matchless global leader. In reality, it is an increasingly flawed foundation for forward-looking defense strategy and risk assessment under post-primacy conditions. Basically the conclusion of the study seems to be that the US military is still set up to face a Cold War environment, and if it wants to adequately deal with new 21st century threats - then it needs to get bigger and have more money so it can deal with both conventional and unconventional threats at the same time. The necessity of American hegemony is never in question, and the only solution is to make the military bigger and to do more on the internet I guess.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 11:58 |
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Incidentally this year's NDAA is even bigger than the increase Trump wanted. Of course this means more toys that the military will want to take on a ride. And american media has been way, way into ramping up its traditional saber rattling against a few select countries.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 12:08 |
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Has one ever considered a defensive posture
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