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Pander posted:"managing to not be a complete chode to people* is not an affirmative reason to vote someone in as president, what is wrong with you? Being presidential, having the fitness and demeanor to be president, is absolutely an affirmative reason to vote someone in as president. What is wrong with YOU?
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JeffersonClay posted:I'm sorry that advertisement contradicts the narrative that Hillary Clinton never gave any affirmative reasons to vote for her during the election, but it does. That "affirmative reason" being "vote for me, I'm not the other guy." Strong case you've got there, JC.
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cochise posted:That's pretty much his life nowadays. Just bitches about dumb poo poo on Twitter and complains about how lonely his life has become. Can you imagine getting a billion dollars and still being so unhappy you just start dumb fights on twitter all day?
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JeffersonClay posted:Being presidential, having the fitness and demeanor to be president, is absolutely an affirmative reason to vote someone in as president. What is wrong with YOU?
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JeffersonClay posted:Being presidential, having the fitness and demeanor to be president, is absolutely an affirmative reason to vote someone in as president. What is wrong with YOU? Pander posted:"managing to not be a complete chode to people* is not an affirmative reason to vote someone in as president, what is wrong with you? please consider taking this debate elsewhere, we've all heard it before and nobody will be convinced e: thanks
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business hammocks posted:Can you imagine getting a billion dollars and still being so unhappy you just start dumb fights on twitter all day? Notch 2020?
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evilweasel posted:Witte's "boom" story: So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? Is this not treason? This seems kinda huge, but I don't see people freaking out. Freak out more!
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"The illusion there is a divide" the man says, a matter of days after the second anniversary of Obergefell.
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namaste faggots posted:Help me understand how a politician goes to bed at night thinking that suppressing voters is a legitimate political tactic. they assume the other side is doing it too and they're just making things 'fair'
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Serfer posted:Never read mcmagic I know, but he literally called for Russians to hack Hillary DURING THE DEBATE ON LIVE TELEVISION The GOP have basically already signaled they'd look the other way with all their "so what if he DID collude?" last week.
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business hammocks posted:Can you imagine getting a billion dollars and still being so unhappy you just start dumb fights on twitter all day?
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business hammocks posted:Can you imagine getting a billion dollars and still being so unhappy you just start dumb fights on twitter all day? Sure, but it also involves me also imagining I'm more clever and important than I really am. Pollyanna posted:Is this not treason? This seems kinda huge, but I don't see people freaking out. Freak out more! the technical definition of trererarararrjenananaahggggkkkkkkk ak ak. besides, is collusion really that criminal? really? really? is it really? reeeeaaallllllly?
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? Look at the last time a geriatric old Republican President got charged with treason and a General took the fall for him. History repeats itself.
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? so, no. obviously, though, if it is verified it raises some interesting questions - if the campaign was in no way involved in the hack itself (and there is no evidence I've seen indicating that they were), is it a crime to try to benefit from the hack once it's happened? for fairly obvious reasons that's not a question the president's campaign wants to have to answer
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Literally a story with a direct link between trump's campaign and russia came out, don't get distracted to talk about dumb videogame man.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Look at the last time a geriatric old Republican President got charged with treason and a General took the fall for him. History repeats itself. I would think that maybe 2% of republican voters will flip if it turns out the entire party is conspiring to help Russia affect the elections. It's not putting all of them in jail like a sane country would but it might be close enough.
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BardoTheConsumer posted:I would think that maybe 2% of republican voters will flip if it turns out the entire party is conspiring to help Russia affect the elections. It's not putting all of them in jail like a sane country would but it might be close enough. The pivot has already started though. It's "Oh I barely even watch the news anymore, it's all so negative" and "well no poo poo, all politicians are rear end we've always said this"
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/880545238414241792
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business hammocks posted:Flynn gonna be the first one on us soil to get some polonium soup or have a piano-falling-off-the-roof accident. I think you'll find Vince Foster died in the 90s. 
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/880545238414241792 to be fair he was 81 so its a little less suspicious
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Literally a story with a direct link between trump's campaign and russia came out, don't get distracted to talk about dumb videogame man. A friend on Facebook who feels incredibly slighted that the Democrats stole the nomination from Bernie is utterly convinced that accusing Russia of any kind of meddling in our elections is modern-day McCarthyism, because you see making accusations without evidence is what McCarthy did. Like, I dunno dude, how much more evidence of this poo poo do we need before this becomes impossible to ignore? Probably none will do, because he has an irrational hatred for Hillary Clinton and it seems anything that shows she should have won the presidency makes him foam at the mouth.
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https://twitter.com/LarrySabato/status/880516753155014665 I feel like this list could use a few more numbers. https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/880539085844213760 So, uh, that's a conspiracy charge on its own right?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I honestly can't wait until Notch hangs himself. Dude's life is a total train wreck and despite being a billionaire is a miserable loner. (I wonder why) The guy seems possibly properly depressed. Don't say that. I don't feel too much sympathy for him, but I know how destructive that sort of thing can be, manifested in different ways, especially when there's a bad influence. I do think he's an idiot.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:https://twitter.com/notch/status/880517922870906880
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I appreciate the fact that these chucklefucks commit treason in the same manner that I order office supplies.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I mean, I hate to go along with Trump's own self-mythologizing, but Jackson sure loved to publicly display his grudges. Grant's fondness for the bottle and depressive tendencies might have led him to some dark nights with Twitter, too. I know this is from ten pages ago but you don't have direct messaging- just FYI for everyone here Grant wasn't a drunk, and no subordinates back up the claim. It was a rumor spread by some higher ups in the beginning of the civil war to detract from what a better job he did than them winning battles, and then got tied into lost cause mythology. E: if anyone would like to learn more, please read Mighty Scourge by McPherson.
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? It's pretty big. However Treason is the only crime that's specifically detailed by the constitution. It's pretty rare and even the people caught spying during the Cold War didn't get charged with it. I wouldn't get too hung up on it. You can still be turbofucked by the law without it.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I appreciate the fact that these chucklefucks commit treason in the same manner that I order office supplies.
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Robot Hobo posted:Why do you cackle with glee and whisper "oh the suffering of those peasants will be delicious" when you order office supplies? You... You mean you don't?
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Yawgmoft posted:I know this is from ten pages ago but you don't have direct messaging- just FYI for everyone here Grant wasn't a drunk, and no subordinates back up the claim. It was a rumor spread by some higher ups in the beginning of the civil war to detract from what a better job he did than them winning battles, and then got tied into lost cause mythology.
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I think it's about 50/50 that we are going to find out that Russian interference in the election didn't originate in Moscow but with the Trump campaign itself.
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Yawgmoft posted:I know this is from ten pages ago but you don't have direct messaging- just FYI for everyone here Grant wasn't a drunk, and no subordinates back up the claim. It was a rumor spread by some higher ups in the beginning of the civil war to detract from what a better job he did than them winning battles, and then got tied into lost cause mythology. grant was an alcoholic but he was largely functional and his drinking was mostly a response to being bored and away from his family. his drinking was totally exaggerated by unkind rumors and military politics but it wasn't a fabrication, he did have a drinking problem
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Simplex posted:I think it's about 50/50 that we are going to find out that Russian interference in the election didn't originate in Moscow but with the Trump campaign itself. I can see this happening. Trump would never allow himself to lose at anything, so he probably planned to cheat from the start, just in case.
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? I mean, we already know the GOP doesn't give a poo poo about the Russia collusion so its hard to really care. Its just another thing to throw onto the overwhelming mountain of evidence that Trump is a Russian stooge. But so long as the GOP controls congress they won't do a drat thing about it.
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Zophar posted:I can see this happening. Trump would never allow himself to lose at anything, so he probably planned to cheat from the start, just in case. The way he projects, yeah, I could see that. He wouldn't shut up about the election being rigged before it happened.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Are you saying the Animaniacs lied to me? Don't meet your heroes. Do you remember that short lived cartoon that was supposed to teach kids about history? Woof. boner confessor posted:grant was an alcoholic but he was largely functional and his drinking was mostly a response to being bored and away from his family. his drinking was totally exaggerated by unkind rumors and military politics but it wasn't a fabrication, he did have a drinking problem You better go tell McPherson.
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Pollyanna posted:So basically, this is proof that the GOP was working with the Russians to try and influence the election, correct? It probably isn't treason, if only because the legal argument that Russia is an "enemy" is difficult to make without a state of war existing. Even if arguably them tampering with the election could be construed as close to an act of war, I don't think that's enough for it to count. Soliciting foreign hackers to try to obtain correspondence of a former government official is almost certainly under the umbrella of espionage, though. Not to mention conspiracy charges in relation to soliciting the commission of a crime. There's plenty of other potential charges from this act alone as well, depending on the details. Flynn's hosed if this is true, in other words. And there's only one way to save himself.
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