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If this was a gif, it would be perfect.
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Samuel Clemens posted:If this was a gif, it would be perfect. Gotcha covered.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:25
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That's undeniably great, but it does lose something when you can't see the individual parts.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:32
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It's taken ages but I've finally beaten FFV for the first time. It was just a regular run with Blue/Bers/Nin/Drg. I did most of the optional stuff (besides Bahamut/Levi/Phoenix and Superbosses) because I wanted to check out as much as possible. So 29 hours of goblin punching later Exdeath is defeated (4th or 5th try or so). Shoutouts to Exdeath slayer Berserker Krile. She got like 4+ Sword Dance procs on W2 Exdeath to really alleviate that fight for me. Final Exdeath she wrecked form 1 with 4 Sword Dance procs and then a handful more in phase 2 (including the killing blow).  I feel like I could have at least killed Shinryu with a bit of effort (thanks to a Dragon Lance I managed to snag), not so sure about Omega (was trying to do stuff the first time around without looking too much into advice/cheese strats). However, I felt more compelled to start a new run (embracing the #chaos this time). 
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Jun 30, 2017 00:31
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 Our long national nightmare is over. Ended up at level 45. Even after cheating it took me ten more tries to get enough CK hits and two not-so-bad Grand Crosses. Let us never speak of this again.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:52
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Is snapping rods against the sandworm a viable strategy?
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RobotsLoveSpectres posted:Is snapping rods against the sandworm a viable strategy? go for it.
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RobotsLoveSpectres posted:Is snapping rods against the sandworm a viable strategy? Frost rods will pop for about 600, so you either need about five or to do some damage outside the rods. You'll also eat two Gravity counters every time, so unless everybody in your party can break rods you probably will want to heal up while you do it. But it's definitely possible, since that's how I did it, having only bards and time mages at that point on my run.
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Jun 30, 2017 01:19
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Does quickleaking work in the GBA version?
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Kashuno posted:Does quickleaking work in the GBA version? Yes.
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  So that was a lot less grinding than I anticipated. Mystic Knight really lets you farm fast, whether ABP via Void enemies or XP via Iron Giants in the Rift. Avoiding bad enemy packs is also really easy with Thief. While getting X-fight on everyone I was also able to steal a spare Bone Mail to use the unequip glitch so everyone could be charm-immune vs Omega (I also stole a buttload of mostly-superfluous things). My plan had been to first put everyone up to 41 and then take my Mystic Knight + Monk as high as needed to be able to rush down Shinryu before seeing how high I would need to take the Mystic Knight so that 2 volleys would wreck Omega. Turns out 41 was plenty on both counts, although both fights looked like they needed a little luck. Shinryu was first try (I'm unsure how well my levels would have stacked against some of his moves, like Zombie Breath/Poison Breath) and Omega was second (lol Encircle RNG). I'm glad I stayed at 28-29 for Neo Exdeath, because after picking up those levels + Flare Blade I'm pretty sure the fight would have been boring (unless I rolled the dice with X-Fight I guess). e: lol i forgot to use the darkness bow vs Shinryu e2: also forgot to mention that while grinding levels i stole no fewer than 15 wall rings. FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 01:57
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How do I know if I need to buy Istory rings, exactly? I'm never really sure what lineups or objectives would warrant that kind of farming.
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I think it's not really strictly required for many parties, although if you have no healing options flame ring + fire attacks might theoretically be attractive. However, once you get to world 2 past the bridge you have access to Hi-potions, which provide enough healing to get by except for a couple of the later world 2 fights. I think there are very few teams that would need them for world 1, especially if you are willing to use elixirs on the tougher fights like Sol Cannon or maybe Archaeoavis. If by the time you reach the crystals you will have zero access to instant death/critical HP (berserker, ranger, beastmaster) or shell (white mage) or other OP bullshit (samurai, chemist) then you have to be pretty careful in the crystal fight and you want at least enough DPS to deal the last 3000 damage reliably quickly. Any team other than like something with only geomancers, red mages, and thieves can do this if you give them a reasonable number of levels (probably less grinding than going for 50k a pop in world 1). If managing that fight seems like it's going to be an issue then you can cheese the fight by getting one or more flame rings in world 1 (or the flame shield after the fire but in almost all cases the aegis shield is what you want to take), putting the fire crystal into danger mode, and then having it heal you as you chip away at the others. The other big roadblock that you would theoretically want to cheese would be world 2 Exdeath (I would make a case that he's the toughest boss in the game in that there are very few gimmicks available, he has a pretty nasty constellation of moves, and he's before you have access to the world 3 goodies and grinding spots). I think the Istory rings aren't as useful here, as compared to farming wall rings in Barrier Tower, since that protects from all three of the Bolt3/Fire3/Ice3 spells he throws out in his later phase. If you have a red mage then the question is whether you are going to need a stockpile of rods for either of these two fights, since they boost the red mage's damage dramatically and are only available in world 1. (Maybe also for Time Mage, although Comet will probably suffice up to w3). FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 02:28
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FreeKillB posted:I think it's not really strictly required for many parties, although if you have no healing options flame ring + fire attacks might theoretically be attractive. However, once you get to world 2 past the bridge you have access to Hi-potions, which provide enough healing to get by except for a couple of the later world 2 fights. I think there are very few teams that would need them for world 1. Current squad is Knight/Beast/RDM so I think I'm set on reflects, don't know how BST is able to cheese the seal crystals though.
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Catch a Sand Crawler, which releases for Maelstrom, which can put any number of the crystals into critical HP (you can probably get it to proc on 3-4 if you save scum a little). The other world 2 catch that can cheese them is the Aquathorn, which is a single target Destroy effect which will also kill 1 crystal.
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Jun 30, 2017 02:43
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FreeKillB posted:Catch a Sand Crawler, which releases for Maelstrom, which can put any number of the crystals into critical HP (you can probably get it to proc on 3-4 if you save scum a little). The other world 2 catch that can cheese them is the Aquathorn, which is a single target Destroy effect which will also kill 1 crystal. This is a good way. My old way was to catch 4 iron backs in the cave to Catolepas. I'd whittle down each crystal until they were close to the critical phase then release all at once to skip the spells altogether. I've never ground Istory rings.
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Journey of the Quadzerker: Part V "Spankety spankety spankety!"  Completely unnecessary...  Worst. Boss rush. Ever.      Tidal Wave healing is fun. I think it's the first time I haven't cheesed him in two years.  RIP in peace, Greg...  Next time: Axe versus tree.
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Yahoo I got Omega It was just a simple matter of holding him down with !Calm while I landed 19 Sword Dances before he snuck out and got a shot off and killed me. It took quite a few tries to get that lucky.
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drat even with a freight train of Mystic Knight/ Mystic Knight/ Knight/ Ninja Byblos still almost killed me. I think it's the counterattacks that make the bosses in this game so brutal. Anyway my last job is Dancer...I'm starting to get worried about the lack of anything but damage output.
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So my next party is Thief - Knight - Geomancer - Dragoon. That's... pretty bad! I feel like this might be one of the very rare occasions where I actually need the Brave Blade. Talk me out of it!
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 Run #3 down. Wasn't hard just wasn't very interesting. Having to grind to survive Almagest wasn't very fun. Also wanted to avoid doing Island Shrine and other World 3 dungeons, so I ended up just stealing a rune blade from a stingray which actually made my red mage a pretty great attacker when combined with two handed, Next run is a popular run starting with Time, so I guess I'll be freelancering it up for a while.
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OzFactor posted:So my next party is Thief - Knight - Geomancer - Dragoon. That's... pretty bad! I feel like this might be one of the very rare occasions where I actually need the Brave Blade. Talk me out of it! There are more good swords available than daggers, you have two ways around chicken knife flee, you have an easy shinryu for an alternative sword, and iirc CK gets the Lance !jump bonus in one of the versions.
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 First Fiesta of the run done! Geo/Drag/Nin/Drag. I never used !Gaia in my actual runs, so I was surprised to see it not only demolish World 1, but stay sort of relevant the entire game. Lots of stronger random encounters can be insta killed or confused by it, and I thought that was awesome. !Lance being my only source of non-itemized healing was interesting, and the mp damage was very rarely useful as well. !DualWielding Dragoons are still cool as gently caress if not extremely useful, and !Throw was very much my emergency button (RIP World 2 ExDeath, Shuriken'd to shreds). I could probably take on Shinryu, but fuuuck farming 6 Dragon Lances. Overall, this team lacked extreme synergy and was somewhat single-minded, with timing !Jumps being the most complex poo poo. That being said, the fact that I felt like I was constantly swinging between over and underpowered depending on the entirely on the enemy made this team and run fairly fun. Onto the next one.
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OzFactor posted:So my next party is Thief - Knight - Geomancer - Dragoon. That's... pretty bad! I feel like this might be one of the very rare occasions where I actually need the Brave Blade. Talk me out of it! I usually never talk people out of Brave Blade runs, but this team won't have many issues with bosses in World 3, while several random encounters will be really annoying for them, so you might want to reconsider. Nasgate posted:There are more good swords available than daggers, you have two ways around chicken knife flee, you have an easy shinryu for an alternative sword, and iirc CK gets the Lance !jump bonus in one of the versions. I don't recall the Chicken Knife getting the bonus damage with !Jump. The Twin Lance's double attack works correctly on the iOS version though, so a Thief with !Jump is a genuinely good idea for World 2 and arguably most of World 3 as well. Also, I wouldn't consider Shinryu easy with this team.
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With knight/blue/beastmaster/summoner I got the brave blade after fleeing all game just to goblin punch with it through the pyramid and then two-hand Excalibur.
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"Heh, bunch of people wasting their time making Freelancer-only saves at the Water Crystal. What are the odds* they'll need them?" In my defense I thought Chaos and Pure Chaos still sorted by availability. *70% for Chaos, ~72% for PC. I probably should have actually checked the odds!
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Nasgate posted:There are more good swords available than daggers, you have two ways around chicken knife flee, you have an easy shinryu for an alternative sword, and iirc CK gets the Lance !jump bonus in one of the versions. I totally forgot about Mug. But how is this an easy Shin kill? Dragon Lance jumps? I'd have to land, like, a lot of them, wouldn't I?
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OzFactor posted:I totally forgot about Mug. But how is this an easy Shin kill? Dragon Lance jumps? I'd have to land, like, a lot of them, wouldn't I? Dragon Lance jumps often do the full 9,999 damage, so you'd need six jumps.
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Okay but I'm still not sure how I stay alive that long... Dragoon just keeps jumping while the others are reflected zombies? Will that timing work out?
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OzFactor posted:Okay but I'm still not sure how I stay alive that long... Dragoon just keeps jumping while the others are reflected zombies? Will that timing work out? Shinryu is pretty fast, so I don't think so. There's probably no foolproof strategy so you might have to do it a couple times till the RNG is favorable. I might go Coral Rings on everyone but the Dragoon, who puts on Running Shoes. Phoenix Down & Elixir the Dragoon the first turn then just Jump away and hope for favorable attacks. The downside of Haste is that the jump ends sooner, so I might be wrong there and it might be worth the Coral Ring. It ain't a great strategy. Someone who is smarter than me might have a better idea. I don't see how it's easy and you don't have access to Berserk. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Second Fiesta, second run. The first run I skipped Omega and Shinryu, but this time I want to give them a try. I'm going for Omega right now. Problem is, I'm significantly lacking disabling abilities for Omega. My party is Black Mage / Time Wizard / Ninja / Chemist. Last one is the key, of course, but other than Kiss of Blessing to disable Omega's worst attacks, but I don't have Golem to buffer his powerful hits or the reliable Blink. For damage I know I can use the Black Mage with the aid of some reflects, or the Ninja with their own Kiss of Blessing, a couple of dragon potions and 2 or more Turtle Soups on Omega. But I have no clue how to keep people alive. The downside of the KoB is that Omega gets REALLY fast. I can renew KoB on the Ninja for the blink effect and have one or two party members using !Image. But that means I have less !Mixing going on. Am I missing something obvious?
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Dr. Psychobabble posted:Second Fiesta, second run. Quickleak?
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Solo Chemist strat? I don't know if that guide is in the OP but it's definitely somewhere lurking in Carbybot or the Discord info posts. I mean, you could do fancier stuff, but solo Chemist works just fine.
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Omega for chemists obviously swtich Geomancer with whatever class has the highest magic.quote:How To Murder Omega With Chemist, Fight It Out edition: Funktastic fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Oh, worth noting, someone in chat brought up that you might only want to use five Turtle Soups so that Reflected attacks still did 0 and didn't trigger counters. Whatever, though.
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Up to L36 on my zerkers. Almost ready to smash my face against the wall that is Sandworm.
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Dr. Psychobabble posted:Second Fiesta, second run. Just beat him with the exact same team. Had mix on everyone and reflect rings. Originally tried to fight it out before blessed kissing him. I was close to level 40 and between Goliath tonic, back row, and protect from !mix he was only doing around half my hp. I took a few turns before berserking him to ready my guys up. Use quick to immediately make your time mage hasted and heavy, then work on doing the same for everyone else. The chemist can use a Goliath tonic which is nice.
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