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rabidsquid posted:its too mana efficient and the wrong color. sea gate oracle didnt have enough toughness to be a horned turtle but it approaches peak horned turtle design I'd say Benthic Infiltrator but having a good attacking ability disqualifies it. I guess the last good one was Armored Skaab.
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Rinkles posted:Brian Gottlieb (I think I've heard about him before) is the new GAM co-host. spoilers 
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Jun 29, 2017 21:39
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Rinkles posted:Brian Gottlieb (I think I've heard about him before) is the new GAM co-host. He's a very good player.
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Jun 29, 2017 21:43
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If you arrange a bunch of the cards right, you totally do get a disaster movie as each of the hours pass, and new cataclysms appear.
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Jun 29, 2017 21:46
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Chill la Chill posted:There was that one guy that kept posting about how all the revealed cards would go into different edh decks. Hour of Devastation has so far been one of the best sets for commander in a long time. Razaketh is so good that I'll be shocked if it isn't banned and Hour of Revelation is an instant staple
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Jun 29, 2017 21:50
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I unfortunately don't care one bit about EDH.
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DariusLikewise posted:Calcite Snapper is the best Horned Turtle this for real, i love calcite snapper, that card is almost legacy playable
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As someone who occasionally lightly skims the waters of MTG, I'll just say that this is the first time I've ever been remotely interested in the lore. The cards seem to be unusually evocative of a high concept action-fantasy plot. So that's something going for the set.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:As someone who occasionally lightly skims the waters of MTG, I'll just say that this is the first time I've ever been remotely interested in the lore. The cards seem to be unusually evocative of a high concept action-fantasy plot. So that's something going for the set. Yeah Bolas zombies vs Phyrexians is something that I'm actually looking forward to.
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ThePeavstenator posted:Yeah Bolas zombies vs Phyrexians is something that I'm actually looking forward to. I'm glad this is accepted as fact now.
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Jun 29, 2017 22:19
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Bolas rules in general and I'm sad his new Walker was so boring after his first one
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Agreed on the flavor of this set, I'm also very excited to go to dominaria. I've been playing a long time but not quite that long!
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Jun 29, 2017 23:01
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I think the most exciting thing about Amonkhet is that we're leaving
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Jun 29, 2017 23:12
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Lawnie posted:Agreed on the flavor of this set, I'm also very excited to go to dominaria. I've been playing a long time but not quite that long!
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Jun 29, 2017 23:16
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there better be homarids in Dominaria there aren't going to be homarids in Dominaria
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Elyv posted:there better be homarids in Dominaria I want a homarid planeswalker
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Jun 29, 2017 23:27
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This set has a 6 mana wrath that might cost 3 sometimes, a 3 mana wrath with drawback, a 5 mana red board-cleaner, a planeswalker tutorman, Crucible Man, a one-sided Humility, Mana Leak and Impulse taped together, Fact or Ficti Sphinx lord, a cycle of own-color-hosers, a demon with a manaless tutor, and a horse lord. If this set is weak they're at least trying some really weird poo poo, and I'd much rather they print really weird cards than just making marquee mythics really loving pushed like Avacyn or Emrakul.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This set has a 6 mana wrath that might cost 3 sometimes, a 3 mana wrath with drawback, a 5 mana red board-cleaner, a planeswalker tutorman, Crucible Man, a one-sided Humility, Mana Leak and Impulse taped together, Fact or Ficti Sphinx lord, a cycle of own-color-hosers, a demon with a manaless tutor, and a horse lord. This, plus the curse that doubles all milling on your opponent. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This set has a 6 mana wrath that might cost 3 sometimes, a 3 mana wrath with drawback, a 5 mana red board-cleaner, a planeswalker tutorman, Crucible Man, a one-sided Humility, Mana Leak and Impulse taped together, Fact or Ficti Sphinx lord, a cycle of own-color-hosers, a demon with a manaless tutor, and a horse lord. I think the set looks kind of cool and I am interested to see what effects it has on standard.
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I should add I'm interested a decent amount, for a small set, of cards for powered cube so it ain't all bad. Especially excited for magus of the crucible and might add more of a lands matter theme because of him/her (I forget).
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Rinkles posted:
This card is great for limited, maybe good enough for standard if you can be pitching Honored Hydra or Fiery Temper or something
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:If this set is weak they're at least trying some really weird poo poo, and I'd much rather they print really weird cards than just making marquee mythics really loving pushed like Avacyn or Emrakul. On the other hand man, those PO prices, dang. Just brutal.
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Lone Goat posted:I'd say Benthic Infiltrator but having a good attacking ability disqualifies it. I guess the last good one was Armored Skaab. armored skaab was a goddamn fantastic horned turtle, divorced from any context it was just a great value card but it was also an enabler in multiple fun deck types in draft.
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Rinkles posted:
This, and a handful of the other spoilers so far, seem like they're going to fly under the radar but end up being really good value down the line once folks have time to tinker with them. Still kind of :meh: on some of the design decisions but some weird, possibly fun poo poo is a nice change of pace. AKH/AKH/HOD draft will still be aggro as hell, seems like.
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rabidsquid posted:i thought they were switching to single set draft format Not until Dominaria next Spring, there's still Amonkhet and Ixalan as old-model two-set blocks to push out.
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we're all getting swerved and bolas is gonna invade kamigawa to steal O-Kagachi to restore his super planewalker powers
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:AKH/AKH/HOD draft will still be aggro as hell, seems like. Should be H/H/A, no?
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Elyv posted:Should be H/H/A, no? yea, also that guy is dumb for making broad assumptions without many of the commons spoiled
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And also no one likes double small one large draft, either, which is why they're going to triple large for every set.
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Spiderdrake posted:I have this feeling this set will end up one of the most valuable in the long term sets of recent stuff, because people are going to want to play with all that poo poo and weird cards end up in random decks, whereas hyper-efficient pushed beater #234 isn't really a big deal in casual and rarely has much of an impact on deeper environments. Having a bunch of playable efficient beaters is important. EDH staples aren't going to drive people to crack packs or draft, since you only need one of them. Having a bunch of playable cards means there are money opens, which means people want to draft more, it's an important cycle. Perhaps more importantly, it injects new cards to change the meta, something standard needs. Whiffing hard on this set after a bunch of repeated bans is just brutal.
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sit on my Facebook posted:You guys are much too pessimistic. There are an about average number of standard-worthy cards already spoiled for this set. Just at a glance and ignoring anything cute;
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My guess is that a lot of stuff from this set won't enter Standard until rotation, as it has always been and will be until the end of time.
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I think this set will be fun to draft, and I look forward to drafting it.
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I've never bought one before but I thought the Planeswalker decks came out prerelease weekend. PO says 14th for the pair I had ordered for me. Was my store selling ahead of street date or something stupid? DariusLikewise posted:My guess is that a lot of stuff from this set won't enter Standard until rotation, as it has always been and will be until the end of time.
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Bugging for Deck Help again. I pulled a Nissa, Steward of Elements from an Amonkhet pack, so I'm trying to figure out what to do with her. Aiming for Standard. This is what I have so far: http://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/free-handouts-1/ In testing it has ALMOST worked once. I think I'm maybe a little bit too split focus with trying to run both As Foretold & Nissa, since they do similar things but in slightly different ways. My idea here is that I get some stuff to be able to get free cards from my hand & the top of my deck, using combos with Scrying, counter doubling, ramping from the mana dumping, and hand drawing cards. I think I'm close but I think it's a bit too unfocused. Any help would be appreciated, including telling me "this deck is garbage sorry" 
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Spiderdrake posted:I've never bought one before but I thought the Planeswalker decks came out prerelease weekend. PO says 14th for the pair I had ordered for me. They can sell to people during the prerelease events. After prerelease weekend they can't sell them again until the set comes out.
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