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pumpinglemma posted:What does SEC mean? Google is unhelpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLaQWFJTPG0&t=81s
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STAC Goat posted:I have no idea what he does and doesn't do himself. I'm sure some of them are him, some aren't. Maybe he has no idea how to use his phone? Maybe he's playing Candy Crush right now? I have no idea. Some are definitely written for him. They're clear, uncontroversial, and error-free.
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RZA Encryption posted:I think the idea of his phone being taken away is silly because he'd fire anyone that tried. They probably just block Twitter on the white house firewall and tell him it's down again. "Your tweets got so much attention it brought down Twitter's server." Trump tweets are official White House statements. Often he does not inform relevant staff of his tweets and they learn of decisions that way instead of through proper channels. Trump surrogates like Spicer and Sanders are explicitly warned not to contradict any of his tweets, ever. The President's tweets speak for themselves. I believe the President was very clear when he tweeted. The media is really mean to us so why is it wrong for the President to launch personal attacks on morning TV hosts? Trump, ultimately, will be hoisted by his own tweetard he can't stop posting
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Didn't the basic plan for AHCA involve it kind of being a sneak attack though? No details and then ram a quick vote through before much news gets out about it? I get the feeling the odds of passage moved down a lot by there not being a vote this week. Now that there are articles about coverage, tax cuts for the rich etc. the zerg rush strat has much lower odds of success. Oh and as far as the whole Trump circus I kind of hope that they actually physically resemble the Harkonnen gang in the Lynch version of Dune before the end. Trump is kind of close already, but Jared is a poor Feyd Rautha. Miller would be a decent Piter though.
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Zwabu posted:Oh and as far as the whole Trump circus I kind of hope that they actually physically resemble the Harkonnen gang in the Lynch version of Dune before the end. Trump is kind of close already, but Jared is a poor Feyd Rautha. Miller would be a decent Piter though. If Duke Leto is Bernie and Hillary is Lady Jessica, who is Muad'dib?? it's Zuckerberg Zuck-er-berg. Zuck-er-berg.
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Divot posted:What do you guys think is the reason that NYT / Wapo et al. haven't reported on that Flynn story yet? Maybe they're waiting to verify their own versions of the story or waiting until tomorrow to start a new news cycle with it? It just definitely reads as a pretty major development and I'm pretty surprised to only see it in the WSJ and, like, Talking Points Memo at the moment. Can someone relink it for me? I was on a plane all day missed everything after all of republican senators were super concerned and troubled by Trumps language, and if it isn't on WaPo/CNN/NYT I won't know where to look Also, I'm in DC and we're trying to decide whether to protest at congress or the WH tomorrow
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Al Borland Corp. posted:W was pretty consistent about trying to get immigration reform done and he got pretty close in his second term. W and his advisors understood that sending 70-80% of Latinos to the democrats was a bad idea and tried to take actual concrete steps to court the latino vote
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For all their numerous faults, the neocons actually wanted to govern This isn't an endorsement of them, just an observation about how they're different from the new class of Republicans.
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The Glumslinger posted:Can someone relink it for me? I was on a plane all day missed everything after all of republican senators were super concerned and troubled by Trumps language, and if it isn't on WaPo/CNN/NYT I won't know where to look https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851
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Zwabu posted:Didn't the basic plan for AHCA involve it kind of being a sneak attack though? No details and then ram a quick vote through before much news gets out about it? That was the plan, but it was the plan for the House too and it failed and they still got it through by waiting for the heat to die down, giving something to some of the "no" votes to turn them, and then shoving it through again before a CBO score. McConnell's going to try the same thing. He's smarter than Ryan but there's also less wiggle room in the Senate. And of course there's still the next step where it would have to go back to the House and this starts over again. And the word coming out is that the things McConnell is considering to get moderate votes in the Senate are opposite of the things Ryan used to get the HFC votes and would be poison going back there. So nothing's dead, nothing's through. Its a long fight. Bureaucracy moves slowly and that's a good thing in this case.
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Lightning Lord posted:For all their numerous faults, the neocons actually wanted to govern Pretty much. They wanted to govern themselves into a kleptocracy, but they still wanted the system to work well enough to let them be kings and grind the poor into money. The Tea Party just wants everything to burn to keep brown/black people from even having ashes.
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Today has been an unusually bigly day: - Flynn intermediary communicated with Russian hackers about Hillary's emails, requesting they be forwarded to Flynn - Admin requests a disturbing amount of voter info from all 50 states, promising to release it all publicly - It's revealed that the GOP budget totally eliminates the only agency overseeing voting machines - Trump gets mad at Morning Joe and invokes every misogynist trope in the process - Senate investigation calls bullshit on admin's "The tweet speaks for itself" response to the request for any records responsive to records of Trump/Comey interactions - Huckabee-Sanders and Melania defend the "leader of the free world" for his lashing out at people being mean to him on the internet - McConnell status: Still an evil turtle
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Jun 30, 2017 05:35
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Woof. This account follows someone I went to high school with. At a wedding I went to recently, a different friend I haven't seen in a long time said they have been seeing him a lot lately. I haven't kept up with the guy since high school, so I asked how he was doing. The answer was not good. He's been heavily involved in the Mississippi Red Pill and Alt Right scene. Now he's trying to write fiction for a living but hasn't been able to publish anything yet. My friend asked me, as someone who took two whole fiction workshops in undergrad 9 years ago, if I be willing to review one of his pieces? Of course I said yes. Holy poo poo, dudes. Nine page short story that includes how people now are pussies that don't fight anymore, two out of two female characters that are roughly told to leave the scene and do so immediately, and a Tom Clancy-ish protagonist who has vital, but undefined, info about how direct intervention in the Middle East is necessary to ensure peace. Spoiler alert. The twist of the story is that one of the pussies who won't fight has been slipping our hero an amnesia pill every night for at least two years now to keep him away from his direct line to the President. I don't visit Mississippi often, anymore.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:07
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Jun 30, 2017 06:10
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How are people not freaking out about this more. This is it, this is the end of democracy right there.
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Divot posted:What do you guys think is the reason that NYT / Wapo et al. haven't reported on that Flynn story yet? Maybe they're waiting to verify their own versions of the story or waiting until tomorrow to start a new news cycle with it? It just definitely reads as a pretty major development and I'm pretty surprised to only see it in the WSJ and, like, Talking Points Memo at the moment. I think the major issue is that the primary source for the story is dead and thus it can't be confirmed.
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Tatsuta Age posted:Post it.
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That reminds me of another friend I had in college. Cool dude, liberalism guy from Hawaii that moved to San Diego to make Kombucha. I ran into another friend of mine a few months back who was roommates with the dude for a few years after college. Apparently, he went completely crazy, and went total redpill, r/td, etc. Like, my favorite story was that one time, he had left out a relationship bucket list for things he wanted to do with his GF (who was apparently his first one ever). It included such adventurous things as "have sex with her still wearing socks", "have sex in the southern hemisphere (it was confirmed that he did not mean anal sex)", and "jerk off while watching her". Plus Olympic levels of passive aggression.
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I'm trying not to be a sad-brainer; haven't been following this kind of stuff as closely over the last month as I've been very caught up in my own stress and work. However, occasionally peeking in at this and the climate change thread has got me asking, what's the best-case scenario for things going forward? Like, seriously, the rainbows and unicorns best-case scenario. Republican party dissolving over the next four years, actual progressive politicians winning in at least a few states, big investments in infrastructure and nuclear power resulting in...somewhat fewer people dying of poverty over the next two decades? Putin finally kicks the bucket, China becomes less of a shithole, somehow the Middle East stops being a despairing wasteland ruled by petty tyrants caught up in proxy wars? Something like that? I understand that poo poo was never and will never be all roses and sunshine, but Trump's ascension to presidency and the glacial pace at which all of his entire long life of scandals is just constantly failing to catch up to him is endlessly frustrating. This poo poo does not optimize universal happiness, goddamnit. People are dying. Useful institutions are being gutted.
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Shady Amish Terror posted:I'm trying not to be a sad-brainer; haven't been following this kind of stuff as closely over the last month as I've been very caught up in my own stress and work. However, occasionally peeking in at this and the climate change thread has got me asking, what's the best-case scenario for things going forward? Like, seriously, the rainbows and unicorns best-case scenario. Republican party dissolving over the next four years, actual progressive politicians winning in at least a few states, big investments in infrastructure and nuclear power resulting in...somewhat fewer people dying of poverty over the next two decades? Putin finally kicks the bucket, China becomes less of a shithole, somehow the Middle East stops being a despairing wasteland ruled by petty tyrants caught up in proxy wars? Something like that? Yeah, the whole world deciding to stop getting into shifty resource wars and focusing on green tech and, moderate levels of socialism, and space exploration is pretty good
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Tatsuta Age posted:Post it. 50% It's a dick move to post stuff sent to me in confidence, even an alt-right guy's prose. 50% it's legitimately not worth reading, even ironically.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:23
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Optics? What is that? Democrats have hired Raffi Krikorian, a former Uber exec, as their chief technology officer https://www.recode.net/2017/6/28/15886560/democrats-raffi-krikorian-chief-technology-officer-dnc
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The Glumslinger posted:Yeah, the whole world deciding to stop getting into shifty resource wars and focusing on green tech and, moderate levels of socialism, and space exploration is pretty good Yeah, space exploration is cool. Is the cloud of shitheads around Trump just too dense to penetrate? The answer is obviously yes, because Bannon, but still, you'd figure it wouldn't be hard to sell a man with the interests and attention span of a ten-year-old on at least building cool poo poo like nuclear power plants and space rockets, jfc yes i know that doesn't help with the 'people dying' problem I'm just saying
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Jun 30, 2017 06:29
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Yeah, space exploration is cool. Does it actively put money in his pockets or undo something Obama did? if not, he ain't interested
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Furthermore you could sell him on Obama not being big on the spaceships and flying around and zoom zoom, then he'd doubly go for it. Edit: Wow, that's timing
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The Glumslinger posted:Does it actively put money in his pockets or undo something Obama did? if not, he ain't interested You're not wrong, but it's also frustrating to have a president so immeasurably dense it's hard to even properly joke about him. Look at him. Look at that smug organism. It's like a mean old tom cat won the presidency, so goddamned pleased with itself in between bouts of batting at the blue bird and pissing on everything.
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He's very stupid. *cuts NASA budget while yelling at them to go to Mars now. Also listens to Hydrocarbon boners about cutting money to Climate Change research while still yelling at NASA to go to Mars now or else*
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The Glumslinger posted:That reminds me of another friend I had in college. Cool dude, liberalism guy from Hawaii that moved to San Diego to make Kombucha. I ran into another friend of mine a few months back who was roommates with the dude for a few years after college. Apparently, he went completely crazy, and went total redpill, r/td, etc. God this story so similar to my own that I would think we were talking about the same person. But yeah guy used to know from college who lived on Long Island went crazy in that exact same way. It wasn't much of a surprise to me though. He was playing a lot of characteristics that suggested he be vulnerable to that kind of psychotic break. Not that I didn't try to help but he was very stubborn. Besides at the time I just thought he had a extreme but reasonable opinion. Then he got racist. Or more likely he always hid it and suddenly felt comfortable being vocal about it. Since I'm non-white he definitely wouldn't act that way around so I didn't notice until after things went off the deep end.
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Zwabu posted:Didn't the basic plan for AHCA involve it kind of being a sneak attack though? No details and then ram a quick vote through before much news gets out about it? Having the CBO score seemed to gently caress everything up for McConnell. Pardon my ignorance, but are they legally required to wait for the CBO to score a bill before it can be voted on?
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nerdz posted:Optics? What is that? Has he done anything wrong other than working for uber and twitter? It seems fairly Obvious they hired him as a hatchet man to address some highly critical and highly publicized flaws in the DNC organization, not to formulate policy
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Having the CBO score seemed to gently caress everything up for McConnell. I think so, if they want to push it through via reconciliation (i.e. with only 50 votes + Pence).
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Having the CBO score seemed to gently caress everything up for McConnell. According to current Senate reconciliation rules yes, although a Senate majority can overrule the parliamentarian at any time which sets a new precedent going forward. But practically speaking no that was never going to happen in the Senate because you're not going to find enough senators as stupid and green as the dumbfucks in the House that they would actually vote for major health care legislation without reading it or knowing what it does. And even to get the House on board they had to be reassured with "the Senate will fix whatever the CBO finds don't worry nothing bad will happen" but obviously that argument can't be used again.
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pillsburysoldier posted:Trump has been quite the inspiration for students in southern universities Remeber Divesrity Fewer Goddamnit
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I'm hoping to wake up to tweets from trump saying something like "Flynn is a great man! Procured emails at my request! Nothing wrong with that, public deserv 2 c email 4rm crkd hlry"
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EwokEntourage posted:Has he done anything wrong other than working for uber and twitter? It seems fairly He doesn't have any relevant cybersecurity experience as far as I can tell, so they seem to be hiring him because of his association with Twitter and/or Uber (both of which they really shouldn't see as positive things at this point) and/or because of him being a part of that political think tank thing. There's millions of tech people they could have got, but they went for the rich guy from Uber whose past work had nothing to do with what they want him to do.
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Roland Jones posted:He doesn't have any relevant cybersecurity experience as far as I can tell, so they seem to be hiring him because of his association with Twitter and/or Uber (both of which they really shouldn't see as positive things at this point) and/or because of him being a part of that political think tank thing. There's millions of tech people they could have got, but they went for the rich guy from Uber whose past work had nothing to do with what they want him to do. Eh maybe we'll see. He's the CTO, not the head of the cyber security department. I agree that he probably got hired thru his connections, since that's how every high level job works, more so in political jobs. If their goal is the completely overhaul the DNC tech wise, then it makes sense to higher a high profile guy from the ~tech industry~. Working for uber doesn't make you automatically a douchebag. If someone can point to him being one, then okay. It seems to me (and this is just a guess) that he is a hatchet man. Basically to say that this is what the tech industry and Silicon Valley does with emails, security, social media, etc and now we are going to do it too. Pure conjecture tho. Some feel free to point to more info about him, googling didn't turn up much
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Shady Amish Terror posted:I'm trying not to be a sad-brainer; haven't been following this kind of stuff as closely over the last month as I've been very caught up in my own stress and work. However, occasionally peeking in at this and the climate change thread has got me asking, what's the best-case scenario for things going forward? Like, seriously, the rainbows and unicorns best-case scenario. Republican party dissolving over the next four years, actual progressive politicians winning in at least a few states, big investments in infrastructure and nuclear power resulting in...somewhat fewer people dying of poverty over the next two decades? Putin finally kicks the bucket, China becomes less of a shithole, somehow the Middle East stops being a despairing wasteland ruled by petty tyrants caught up in proxy wars? Something like that? I suddenly gain superpowers, throw about half the world's population into the sun and usher in a new world order of gay space communism for all.
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