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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Concerned Citizen posted:

seth moulton is transparently running to be the next speaker of the house




gently caress that

I'm ridin with nance bitch

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Seth moulton is pro-charter school

He is a New Dem

If Cory booker was white and had chopped down Iraqi teenagers with an M60 he would be Seth moulton

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

should i ever run for office, my plan would be to put an ad for television into rotation like a week before election, where the first fifteen seconds would be me saying "hey, i know y'all are getting pretty sick of election commericals, so i, [gene hackman fan], candidate for [whatever], will give you a little peace and quiet for the next [whatever]."

then there'd be a complete silence over peaceful scenes of cumberland gap national park, with a crawl along the bottom saying poo poo like "ghf is in favor of single payer. ghf will fight for $15. ghf will support any efforts to eliminate private prisons. ghf will work to legalize weed. ghf knows he can't do it alone, so he'll either find dems who'll support the same, or stump for candidates who will."

on one hand, people are so used to loud commercials during wheel of fortune or jeopardy that when there's an extended silence, they're going to want to look at the tv to make sure it's still on or working. on the other, i get pretty sick of political commercials towards the election as well.
Adbuy overnights like the 1-4 am slots with 5 minute long(or longer!) commercials of something that's deceptively a good show and youtube the past episodes. Do this significantly before the election indiscriminately

Hits on TV and hits from rumors on youtube, ez money
Just gotta have content

ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 05:42 on Jun 30, 2017

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I'm gonna have an ad where Kendall Jenner gives Mitch McConnell and cuck schumer a coke and then they smile and put aside their differences to do what's right for the county (destroy Medicare, Medicaid, and social security)

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
do what's right for the country =
smash the state

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

I met him at a fundraiser and it was weird and he was weird

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Scent of Worf posted:

do what's right for the country =
smash the state

I take the first step and use it for my passwords.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

GalacticAcid posted:

Seth moulton is pro-charter school

He is a New Dem

If Cory booker was white and had chopped down Iraqi teenagers with an M60 he would be Seth moulton

Hmm... it's almost like his reaction to Ossoff's "economic vision" wasn't actually a debunking of that particular critique at all, but instead an opportunist being presented with the kind of pablum he normally vomits out himself and not understanding enough about his new pretend worldview to respond coherently

But that can't be it

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Al! posted:

robert seigel: also opposes socialism. record my voicemail then guillotine

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Zeris posted:

I met him at a fundraiser and it was weird and he was weird

Actually it was a fun-raiser

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/party-unity-is-for-rubes

quote:

For a contrasting view on the subject of party unity, we need only look to the example of a prominent Democratic politician by the name of Barack Obama. In the aftermath of an extraordinarily fractious primary campaign that left the Democrats deeply divided between Clinton and Sanders supporters, the Sanders side recruited Keith Ellison to run for DNC chair. Ellison looked poised to cruise to an easy victory; for Obama to support him or at least stand aside would have been a powerful symbolic affirmation that whatever had happened during the primaries, Democrats now stood united in opposition to the Republican agenda.

So naturally Obama immediately recruited a challenger to Ellison from the ranks of his own administration and pressured the DNC electors to quash the Ellison candidacy, thus affirming his own faction’s control of the party machinery at the cost of party unity at a historical nadir of the Democrats’ power.

What did Obama understand that Kazin didn’t? He understood that party unity is a story for rubes. It’s a feel-good line for pundits and a convenient thing for the rank-and-file to believe, but not something practical politicians take seriously.

Why? Well, the two-party system in the U.S. forces each party to build ideologically diverse coalitions of interest groups. Those interest groups are held together not by mutual love and fellow-feeling but by raw political need: none of the coalition partners can attain a majority by itself, so their only road to power is by staying in the coalition. But naturally each faction would like to see the whole coalition prioritize its own interests over the others; the question of which groups get legislation passed to their liking and which merely provide the foot soldiers for the larger whole is a vitally important one. So the normal condition of U.S. political parties is faction war, with each faction attempting to seize power within the coalition and the whole coalition held together by the need for alliance against the other party.

Doesn’t this permanent internecine warfare render a party ineffective against its opponents? To answer that question one need only look to the Republicans. The Republican Party is an ideologically diverse coalition incorporating ethnonationalist populists, billionaire libertarians and family-values evangelical conservatives, and since the advent of the Tea Party its factional strife has been far deeper and more intense than the Democrats’. The Koch network and the Tea Party movement have been conducting what amounts to an incredibly well-financed all-out civil war with the Republican establishment, doing things like primarying Eric Cantor, felling John Boehner and forcing Republican Congressional leadership to drive the nation to the brink of default. (Imagine if the Sanders wing of the Democrats successfully primaried Nancy Pelosi or shut down the government over single-payer.) Yet if this has hurt the GOP electorally, it’s hard to see how; in the same timespan that this civil war has intensified, the Republicans have achieved a level of electoral dominance over their Democratic opponents not seen in a century.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


well it forces one party to build ideologically diverse coalitions

the other just votes republican on everything with a flag up their rear end in a top hat

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

should i ever run for office, my plan would be to put an ad for television into rotation like a week before election, where the first fifteen seconds would be me saying "hey, i know y'all are getting pretty sick of election commericals, so i, [gene hackman fan], candidate for [whatever], will give you a little peace and quiet for the next [whatever]."

then there'd be a complete silence over peaceful scenes of cumberland gap national park, with a crawl along the bottom saying poo poo like "ghf is in favor of single payer. ghf will fight for $15. ghf will support any efforts to eliminate private prisons. ghf will work to legalize weed. ghf knows he can't do it alone, so he'll either find dems who'll support the same, or stump for candidates who will."

on one hand, people are so used to loud commercials during wheel of fortune or jeopardy that when there's an extended silence, they're going to want to look at the tv to make sure it's still on or working. on the other, i get pretty sick of political commercials towards the election as well.

better than my idea, which is 30 seconds of a man jacking off while crystals shine around him

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

This is why "maintaining unity" is such bullshit. You're not going to drive people away from your party by it being divided. If anything you may draw more to the party because it is more diverse and "has something for everyone."

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
Republican ideology has also successfully warped the party's constituent factions toward each other, so that evangelical preachers now teach that we should gently caress the poor and that wealth is a sign you've earned god's favor; neocons wrap themselves in Christian dominionism and bomb poorer countries until they have the freedom to have all their public assets looted by huge multinationals; the white nationalists adopt economic conservatism as a way to punish ethnic and religious minorities; and the billionaires see their own exploitative practices as the truest expression of God's blessing to man, the American Dream.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
a cunning ploy, creating diversity in the party, by backing the establishment candidate

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



I've said this several times before but I am perfectly willing to remain allied with the centrists until such that the GOP are completely and irrevocably destroyed

At which point I will also be perfectly willing to split into two parties without any animosity over the split itself

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

SKULL.GIF posted:

I've said this several times before but I am perfectly willing to remain allied with the centrists until such that the GOP are completely and irrevocably destroyed

At which point I will also be perfectly willing to split into two parties without any animosity over the split itself

I remember the heady days of 2016 when even as some people acknowledged the rift between the centrist and progressive wings of the Democrats, it was assumed that hashing it out would be done in the backdrop of control of the White House, a liberal majority in the Supreme Court, and a GOP whose own internal rifts would have been even more deepened by their inability to win a Presidential race.

Oops.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Yinlock posted:

well it forces one party to build ideologically diverse coalitions

the other just votes republican on everything with a flag up their rear end in a top hat

lol

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/pslweb/status/880541097126092802

this is the part where republicans start a gofundme for these victims of fascist vandalism... right?

that's not just an idiotic democrat thing right?!

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/pslweb/status/880541097126092802

this is the part where republicans start a gofundme for these victims of fascist vandalism... right?

that's not just an idiotic democrat thing right?!

:golfclap:

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

punk rebel ecks posted:

A response to the question: "Why don't black people flock to Sanders?" asked last year:

this might be true for the old guard and some really dumb southerners but black youth broke for bernie; tho the op is right about older black people being regressive shitstains

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

yes I said that? I'm talking about gfsincere

that came after zoux

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
#TheResistance

https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/880748831398408192

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

y'all should feel accomplished that this thread has started moving too fast for me to bother reading it

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/pslweb/status/880541097126092802

this is the part where republicans start a gofundme for these victims of fascist vandalism... right?

that's not just an idiotic democrat thing right?!

they should shoot fascists imho

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

zegermans posted:

y'all should feel accomplished that this thread has started moving too fast for me to bother reading it

Trick is to skip to the last page and post

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Martha Stewart Undying posted:

Trick is to skip to the last page and post

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

i tried that as a kid and it took 126 licks but left me with a shredded as gently caress tongue and was not loving worth it

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Martha Stewart Undying posted:

i tried that as a kid and it took 126 licks but left me with a shredded as gently caress tongue and was not loving worth it

weve all had dates like that

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/pslweb/status/880541097126092802

this is the part where republicans start a gofundme for these victims of fascist vandalism... right?

that's not just an idiotic democrat thing right?!

i was going to quote some of this but every word of this highlights how pathetic and weak the psl is lmao aspiring socialists should read this to know how not to form a revolutionary vanguard

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

our legislators are morons

Moulton is a prominent example of "lovely right-wing Dem who inexplicably holds seat in deep-blue state"

i live in his district so all these reminders of how poo poo he is are especially painful :mad:

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Squizzle posted:

weve all had dates like that

there was a time, boy, when I couldn't sustain more than 3 minutes of figure-8'ing my tongue

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

SKULL.GIF posted:

I've said this several times before but I am perfectly willing to remain allied with the centrists until such that the GOP are completely and irrevocably destroyed

At which point I will also be perfectly willing to split into two parties without any animosity over the split itself

That's a mistake. The centrists have pretty clearly shown they cannot be trusted and will never treat the left fairly. A civil split is pure fantasy.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

zegermans posted:

there was a time, boy, when I couldn't sustain more than 3 minutes of figure-8'ing my tongue

sorry for ur wife

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Liberals teamed up with conservatives to run a single candidate against socialists in WI ~100 years ago, there's no reason to believe they won't do the same again.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Al! posted:

i was going to quote some of this but every word of this highlights how pathetic and weak the psl is lmao aspiring socialists should read this to know how not to form a revolutionary vanguard

sad, every socialist knows that when you don't expect the cops to show up you report it as a fire instead

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/880776113357770753

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Melenchon called himself the real opposition in France :getin:

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Al! posted:

i was going to quote some of this but every word of this highlights how pathetic and weak the psl is lmao aspiring socialists should read this to know how not to form a revolutionary vanguard

how do i form a revolutionary vanguard al

can i do it by shitposting on the internet

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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Al! posted:

i was going to quote some of this but every word of this highlights how pathetic and weak the psl is lmao aspiring socialists should read this to know how not to form a revolutionary vanguard

now that's a spicy take

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