NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

I love how people blame Thibs for Butler's minutes like Hoiberg also didn't have that dude playing heavy minutes.

Jimmy averaged like one less minute per game under Hoiberg than he did under Thibs.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:20

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# ? May 15, 2024 17:25

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Dexo posted:

I love how people blame Thibs for Butler's minutes like Hoiberg also didn't have that dude playing heavy minutes.

Jimmy averaged like one less minute per game under Hoiberg than he did under Thibs.

The most minutes in a season Thibs played Butler was 2591 (which is basically what Kawhi played). Butler has less than 15000 minutes between regular and post season play (Same as Kawhi). The idea that he has all these minutes and miles on him is absurd, the dude does not have much NBA mileage at all.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:28

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/poundingtherock/status/880794081412227072

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:29

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Lockback posted:

The most minutes in a season Thibs played Butler was 2591 (which is basically what Kawhi played). Butler has less than 15000 minutes between regular and post season play (Same as Kawhi). The idea that he has all these minutes and miles on him is absurd, the dude does not have much NBA mileage at all.

WHAT?

You mean a narrative pushed and floated out by certain media members who are known to talk to and get talking points from a certain front office who were waiting for an excuse to fire their best coach since phil might be misleading?

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:30

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/Sixers2017Draft/status/880789593053949953

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:32

aBagorn: Aug 26, 2004

Redgrendel2001 posted:

https://twitter.com/Sixers2017Draft/status/880789593053949953

Good. CJ Miles on a 1 year 18 million

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:34

Paracaidas: Sep 24, 2016; Consistently Tedious!

I thought the highly exaggerated year multiplier was hint enough that I was joking but I guess not.

loving Poe's law, man. I get it.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:35

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Lowe just put out a novel on the offseason with some reporting I haven't seen:

quote:

Start here: Dismiss the possibility of Boston signing Hayward, acquiring George, and then somehow signing George to an extension -- regardless of how they order the moves. They just can't open the room to do both without trading Al Horford.

If Boston trades for George, they will do so knowing he could be a rental. That limits the price they are willing to pay. Despite reports to the contrary, Boston has not included any of the following in its offers to the Pacers, per league sources: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, the 2018 Nets pick, and the Lakers-Kings pick Boston snared from Philly in the Markelle Fultz blockbuster.

My best guess on Boston's standing George offer: Jae Crowder, Smart and Indiana's choice of protected first-round picks Boston owns from the Clippers and Grizzlies. That doesn't meet Indiana's goal of nabbing a top-10 pick or an equivalent talent. The Celtics will be reluctant to bid any higher given the risk of George bolting to the Lakers in a year.

quote:

Boston faces more varied competition for George. The Wizards would likely sign-and-trade Otto Porter, with one protected pick attached, to rent George, according to league sources.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:40

Chairchucker: Nov 14, 2006; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

EvanTH posted:

What do the Ricky Lovers out there say

I hope Ricky stays in Minnesota but on the other hand I like Lowry a lot and I'm starting to like Jimmy Buckets a lot so if Ricky goes elsewhere and Lowry comes to Minnesota I will have two teams I guess

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:44

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

morestuff posted:

Lowe just put out a novel on the offseason with some reporting I haven't seen:

gently caress you Ainge.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:48

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Paracaidas posted:

I'd rather Dedmon, Ingles, and a backup point for the same cost.... but it's not as if I'd complain about Lowry.

If we don't use all of our cap on one guy I would love for the Wolves to go after JaMychal Green (sorry Nick)

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:49

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Wasn't the minutes thing basically the only legit knock on Thibs? I seem to remember some interviews where he was asked and he blew it off the way very old men do, "The greats played 48! Don't make me laugh!" type of response?

I mean, after he was out the whole Bulls organization was exposed as having a seriously behind-the-curve training staff who didn't seem to be preparing the guys correctly, but there was a whole bunch of "why are your starters still in" type of moments. He is a psycho work-a-holic and expects the same from everyone else.

The GarPax post-firing smear folks overemphasized the issue for PR rear end in a top hat reasons, but it was still an issue. If you were grading him as a coach it wouldn't be enough to knock him even a third of a letter grade, but it was something competent team medicos should've had a word with him about. (someone back in 2007 really needed to tell Rose to stop landing sideways on one leg with the knees locked, the biomechanics in his pre-injury videos are terrifying, knowing how it turned out)

Didn't help that it all happened coming off the year when the Spurs looked all-time great with a team where not a single player went over 30 MPG http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2014.html while Rose still wasn't back.

Metapod posted:

Are you saying serge would lie cause that's some slander if I've ever heard it

Have you seen that lil Air Congo mini-doc? The dude had practically a whole city depending on him. Serge would absolutely lie to help out his family and his tribe, and he would be right to do it.

Serge at age "19":

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:51

Salvor_Hardin: Sep 13, 2005; I want to go protest.; Nap Ghost

pubic works project posted:

gently caress you Ainge.

If he's correct and no extension would be in place I'm glad he's not offering Brown, Tatum, or the Brooklyn pick.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:52

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Paracaidas posted:

Yes, but if we count Thibs years-I think he's entering his 12th season?

I'd rather Dedmon, Ingles, and a backup point for the same cost.... but it's not as if I'd complain about Lowry.

Someone is going to overpay Ingles thinking that last year represents his true level as a shooter and I really hope it's not Utah.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:54

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Salvor_Hardin posted:

If he's correct and no extension would be in place I'm glad he's not offering Brown, Tatum, or the Brooklyn pick.

I'm fine with no Brown or Tatum, but that Nets pick needs to be on the table. Getting PG even for a year puts them in contention for winning the East and I bet that'll be enough to convince him to stay.

I'm going to be beyond lovely when KP caves and we get scraps for PG and then he decides to re-sign after the fact.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:56

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Paracaidas posted:

I'd rather Dedmon,

Why would you want ANOTHER center on the team?

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:57

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

I bet Simmons still hates David Kahn with a passion.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/880797550051115008

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:57

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Signing LeBron, a genius move by me. Only I can save the Clippers

# ? Jun 30, 2017 15:59

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

pubic works project posted:

I'm fine with no Brown or Tatum, but that Nets pick needs to be on the table. Getting PG even for a year puts them in contention for winning the East and I bet that'll be enough to convince him to stay.

I'm going to be beyond lovely when KP caves and we get scraps for PG and then he decides to re-sign after the fact.

You're not getting the Nets pick for a rental and if there's no extension I honestly don't care about PG, there's no way we're winning next year anyways

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:04

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Cool Buff Man posted:

You're not getting the Nets pick for a rental and if there's no extension I honestly don't care about PG, there's no way we're winning next year anyways

Just to clarify since that's a little out of context, they can extend him later with some maneuvering but not right away

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:06

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Cool Buff Man posted:

You're not getting the Nets pick for a rental and if there's no extension I honestly don't care about PG, there's no way we're winning next year anyways

Well then it looks like we're at an impasse! Good day sir!

*slams door*

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:07

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Paul George must sign a ten year contract to play for my favorite team

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:10

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

I really just want this poo poo over with so I can move on and fully support my new favorite team, the Philadelphia 76ers.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:13

Paracaidas: Sep 24, 2016; Consistently Tedious!

Tae posted:

Why would you want ANOTHER center on the team?

I don't trust Aldrich playing meaningful minutes, I'd like KAT to get more time at the 4, and they finally medical'd Pek. Patton is a project that I'm not counting on for couple years, so there's room.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:15

houstonguy: Jun 2, 2005; Cat Army
2nd Battalion

EvanTH posted:

Wasn't the minutes thing basically the only legit knock on Thibs? I seem to remember some interviews where he was asked and he blew it off the way very old men do, "The greats played 48! Don't make me laugh!" type of response?

I mean, after he was out the whole Bulls organization was exposed as having a seriously behind-the-curve training staff who didn't seem to be preparing the guys correctly, but there was a whole bunch of "why are your starters still in" type of moments. He is a psycho work-a-holic and expects the same from everyone else.

The GarPax post-firing smear folks overemphasized the issue for PR rear end in a top hat reasons, but it was still an issue. If you were grading him as a coach it wouldn't be enough to knock him even a third of a letter grade, but it was something competent team medicos should've had a word with him about. (someone back in 2007 really needed to tell Rose to stop landing sideways on one leg with the knees locked, the biomechanics in his pre-injury videos are terrifying, knowing how it turned out)

Didn't help that it all happened coming off the year when the Spurs looked all-time great with a team where not a single player went over 30 MPG http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2014.html while Rose still wasn't back.

Wasn't the knock on Thibs not necessarily the long minutes his starters played, but also that he ran super intense, long practices?

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:15

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

If the Wolves are trading Ricky then adding Lowry is fine, if they aren't it doesn't really make sense to have significant salary on both dudes. Also Lowry is going to be looking for a ton of money which I'm not sure he's going to be worth given his age and injury history.

Libertine fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jun 30, 2017

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:17

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

pubic works project posted:

I really just want this poo poo over with so I can move on and fully support my new favorite team, the Philadelphia 76ers.

Lots of legit sources saying the talks have basically died so I'm sure another team will take the Celts place in the rumors arena

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:19

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Cool Buff Man posted:

Paul George must sign a ten year contract to play for my favorite team

I agree with this.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:22

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Paracaidas posted:

I don't trust Aldrich playing meaningful minutes, I'd like KAT to get more time at the 4, and they finally medical'd Pek. Patton is a project that I'm not counting on for couple years, so there's room.

KAT is a 5, he is better as a 5 and helps the spacing way better as a 5. Dieng is the back-up 5 as long as they get one of those mid-tier stretch 4's like Patrick Patterson to soak up minutes.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:24

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

morestuff posted:

Signing LeBron, a genius move by me. Only I can save the Clippers

Lol

I think a story came out yesterday about how he had zero interest in the clippers too, which makes sense if Paul had really soured on them.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:24

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Cool Buff Man posted:

Lots of legit sources saying the talks have basically died so I'm sure another team will take the Celts place in the rumors arena

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:29

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

I want the Sixers to give a bunch of 1 yr/50 million deals to players

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:30

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

I am Klay Thompson
https://streamable.com/746f1

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:38

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Rubio will only play for a big market team though
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/880809784466849793

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:40

Dejan Bimble: Mar 24, 2008; we're all black friends; Plaster Town Cop

Who the gently caress is going to sign Georgia Hills residential golf course development, if Utah aren't going and doing that

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:45

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

RASHIBA WALLACE posted:

I was hoping New Orleans could find a way to trade for Chris Paul. How exciting would that homecoming have been

Same. Now that Kyrie is on the table, I'm imagining him and T.T. for DMC and it makes my head hurt.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:47

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

Redgrendel2001 posted:

https://twitter.com/Sixers2017Draft/status/880789593053949953

Yeah gonna be cj miles

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:48

Strawberry Panda: Nov 4, 2007; Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

Sheriff posted:

Wasn't the knock on Thibs not necessarily the long minutes his starters played, but also that he ran super intense, long practices?

Probably. But I've never heard any players come out against Thibs for these things. Derrick Rose won an MVP, Noah won DPOY and Butler turned into an All NBA player under Thibs' coaching.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 16:56

Adun: Apr 15, 2001; Publicola; Fun Shoe

quote:

Danny Ainge almost pulls off every deal

Michael Baumann: Danny Ainge almost trades for Paul George, but his lowball offer gets rejected. Danny Ainge almost recruits Gordon Hayward, but Ainge�s son, who�s running for Congress in Utah, convinces Hayward to stay with the Jazz. Danny Ainge�s son almost gets elected to Congress.

Danny Ainge settles for Danilo Gallinari and goes on a three-week press tour about how Gallinari was actually the player he wanted all along.

From the Ringer's prediction piece.

Savage.

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# ? May 15, 2024 17:25

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

I wonder what is the best pro league a summer league team could be dropped into and compete for a title. Looking at the Mavs SL team, they have a Chinese MVP on the squad who likely won't make an NBA roster. I'm thinking they could win the Chinese league but probably wouldn't be a contender in the Spanish League.

# ? Jun 30, 2017 17:03

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